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GSL 2012 Group Nominations - Page 3

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xxgeffxx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 16:09:00
December 28 2011 16:07 GMT
#41
fxo ZUHHHHH!

the formats pretty hard to understand im just gonna wait until gom releases the groups in full so we can understand what it means for drawing next seasons groups
julysun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States29 Posts
December 28 2011 16:07 GMT
#42
tier 3 and 4 scare me
if you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
December 28 2011 16:09 GMT
#43
Interesting that they wrote "2011 GSL Point will be used instead because none 2012 GSL ranking point exists.". Seems to imply that the point scores will be reset and a new point ranking will be established for the 2012 seasons.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
December 28 2011 16:12 GMT
#44
Don't understand this at all.

"2. Players from Tier 1 will be assigned to Group A through Group H.
3. The Champion and the Runner-up have the privilege to choose an opponent from Tier 4.
4. Players from Tier 2 will be assigned to Group A through Group H in random drawings.
5. Players from Tier 3 will be assigned to Group H through Group A in random drawings.
6. Players from Tier 3 will be assigned to Group A through Group H in random drawings."

* Code S Ro.32 Group Nomination (will not be broadcasted).

Doesn't this mean the only picking we'll see is whom Leenock and Jjakji pick?

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kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
December 28 2011 16:15 GMT
#45
On December 29 2011 01:12 frucisky wrote:

Doesn't this mean the only picking we'll see is whom Leenock and Jjakji pick?



Sounds about right.

I really like this, and it's a change that should have been made sooooo much earlier. Player-selection always seems to end up with stacked halves of the bracket that makes for anticlimactic seasons and a lot of questions on the finalist who made it through "the easy side".

Looking forward to see how it works out!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 28 2011 16:17 GMT
#46
Still some potential for Groups of Death though!

MVP
MC
DRG
Curious

MMA
Nestea
Bomber
Gumiho

jjakji
MKP
Happy
Fin

Those are all really HARD groups wow

The easiest I can imagine is maybe...
aLive
InCa
YugiOh
Parting
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 28 2011 16:17 GMT
#47
On December 29 2011 00:59 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:52 Derez wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:34 Pandemona wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:32 fatalities wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:29 Pandemona wrote:
So there not showing this?

Says on website;
The GSL format has been completely revamped for our 2012 series. As Code S Ro.16 will be played in dual tournament mode, Group Nomination has been moved after the Code S Ro.32 Group stage. Therefore, 2012 GSL Season 1 Code S Ro.16 Group Nomination will be broadcasted on January 20th, 2012. Only strongest 16 players who have qualified fierce competition will be in Group Nomination and you can enjoy more interviews and more contents.


So they only showing the RO16 draw? Hope this is just bad wording, i like watching all of them talk to eachother and banter. Plus with Idra there im sure the banter will be up a level

There is no Ro32 draw. It's (mostly) random seeding, if you read OP.



....Obviously, but it is still classified "as a draw" with people drawing out of a hat/bag whatever. It states GSL November winner and runner up are the only ones who will be drawing and the rest is done by GOM.

So my question was, this is not going to be shown then?


EDIT:
3. The Champion and the Runner-up have the privilege to choose an opponent from Tier 4.


Yet they also state;
Code S Ro.32 Group Nomination (will not be broadcasted)


Which i find rather dissapointing, RANDOM or not, watching draws is fun.


As far as I remember, the new GSL system has a non-random drawing for the ro16 groups (players get to pick opponents) and I'm assuming that gets broadcasted live.

Overall, I like the system.


I like watching draws in general, even though there isn't players there or anything. I watch the Champions League draw every year, as well as other ones that come up (FA Cup comes to mind.) Even though the players arn't there to comment, it would still be cool to see.

Imagine the hype in the LRs!!!!


Guess it just us English people who like watching live draws Hassy

I agree 100% with what you just wrote, i watch every draw World Cup Champions League Euro 2012 Draw etcetcetc
Its great hype and fun. Can make specticals of it, look back on previous seasons GSL, comment on matches what happend etc, discuss any news/rule changes. Maybe awards ceromony built in etcetc.

But yeah id just be happy with showing the draw if you could please GOM =)
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frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
December 28 2011 16:18 GMT
#48
On December 29 2011 01:15 kuroshiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 01:12 frucisky wrote:

Doesn't this mean the only picking we'll see is whom Leenock and Jjakji pick?



Sounds about right.

I really like this, and it's a change that should have been made sooooo much earlier. Player-selection always seems to end up with stacked halves of the bracket that makes for anticlimactic seasons and a lot of questions on the finalist who made it through "the easy side".

Looking forward to see how it works out!


I believe's this's a problem of the past though. Code S looks as it should be, pretty evenly strong with the occassional spike at MVP, MMA etc. I think player selection will still be alright. Really looking forward to seeing the groups anyhow!
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 28 2011 16:22 GMT
#49
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that


They do want more foreigners, which is why they have 2 foreign code S seeds that GOM will be handing out. But both sen and idra were in code S previously, both earned their way there like everyone else at the time, and neither of them ever dropped out of code S before they had to leave korea.
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aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 28 2011 16:23 GMT
#50
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that

a bunch of the korean pros rode on MLG spots to get to Code S (MVP from Anaheim, MMA from Columbus), so idk about the "tough Code B and Code A qualifiers" part. GOM already said they were going to give spots to foreigners, might as well give them to the best foreigners. im sorry if you hate it. you can go talk to Mr. Chae if you want to. i doubt he'll care though.
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sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
December 28 2011 16:24 GMT
#51
Abit sad they dont have the players choose 1 opponent each. Its always fun to see the awkward taunts and insults
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imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
December 28 2011 16:27 GMT
#52
Man this is exciting... Boxer, Idra, Sen, Gah, this is going to be awesome.

Also, don't Fin is going to top 8 for sure, he destroying Code A and is a ex- BW progamer, watch out.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 16:30:35
December 28 2011 16:29 GMT
#53
On December 29 2011 01:17 lichter wrote:
Still some potential for Groups of Death though!
[...]
The easiest I can imagine is maybe...
aLive
InCa
YugiOh
Parting


I'd say the easiest would be Puzzle, Zenio/Inca, Idra/Boxer and Sen, but that's up for debate.

And if there's a group full of Terrans, JYP is the easiest of the 4th seeds by far.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
December 28 2011 16:29 GMT
#54
Maaan I hope jjakji picks Idra, would be pretty funny.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
December 28 2011 16:30 GMT
#55
On December 29 2011 01:29 gullberg wrote:
Maaan I hope jjakji picks Idra, would be pretty funny.

Hes in group C, he can pick sen tho. Hes pretty much the easiest opponent in the D group
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 28 2011 16:32 GMT
#56
On December 29 2011 01:22 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that


They do want more foreigners, which is why they have 2 foreign code S seeds that GOM will be handing out. But both sen and idra were in code S previously, both earned their way there like everyone else at the time, and neither of them ever dropped out of code S before they had to leave korea.


Sen was never in Code S, not even near that.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 28 2011 16:35 GMT
#57
On December 29 2011 01:29 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 01:17 lichter wrote:
Still some potential for Groups of Death though!
[...]
The easiest I can imagine is maybe...
aLive
InCa
YugiOh
Parting


I'd say the easiest would be Puzzle, Zenio/Inca, Idra/Boxer and Sen, but that's up for debate.

And if there's a group full of Terrans, JYP is the easiest of the 4th seeds by far.


I love Sen so I couldn't put him down in the easy group :p Also he's done well in tournaments even against Koreans, so he definitely has a shot. He didn't do well in WCG though

I'm a fan of YugiOh's since his time as NewDawn (before he joined SlayerS), but I still think Boxer is better than him. aLive is probably more well balanced than Puzzle, but Puzzle has more potential.
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kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
December 28 2011 16:35 GMT
#58
On December 29 2011 01:23 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:39 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:19 Titorelli wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.

Yeah right for their "results" :D


...? Sen has arguably the best results of any foreigner, placing consistently high at almost every big event and Idra has a good deal of GSL points + MLG results.

Afaik you have to earn your Code S spot by qualifying through the tough Code B and Code A qualifiers. The real reason I assume they invited them is because the want more foreign viewers. So its not about merit its all about popularity, I hate that

a bunch of the korean pros rode on MLG spots to get to Code S (MVP from Anaheim, MMA from Columbus), so idk about the "tough Code B and Code A qualifiers" part. GOM already said they were going to give spots to foreigners, might as well give them to the best foreigners. im sorry if you hate it. you can go talk to Mr. Chae if you want to. i doubt he'll care though.


just to correct you, mvp already had code s spot, and I believe columbus was before the code s/a spots were awarded.

mma got code s piggybacking off second place finish @ anaheim behind mvp
IMMvp #1 :)
samw
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England443 Posts
December 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#59
On December 29 2011 00:16 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 00:14 TeMiL wrote:
GSL now is A and S together right?
thats why we see Idra and Sen in those tiers?


No, IdrA and Sen have actually been given Code S spots, for their results.



If you replace the words "their results" with "gom tv's revenue", this makes more sense
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 28 2011 16:45 GMT
#60
This season of GSL is gonna be so good, Puzzle win it please it's been a fucking long time since a protoss won Code S :p
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