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Bajsgrodan
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan408 Posts
December 13 2011 18:05 GMT
#661
"Average TL:user":

"Waaahhh waaahhhhh ahhhhhhhh Uhhuhuhuhuhuh.......
waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh...esports....waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
waaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaah"

get it? grow up, and to the Koreans:

"We dont share the same values in the west, diffrent culture. Deal with it"
My name sucks!
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 13 2011 18:05 GMT
#662
On December 14 2011 03:03 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:00 dsousa wrote:
I LOL'd at the "Naniwa does not have qualifications to be a pro gamer".

Naniwa must scare the crap out of Korean society, they are weak to BM. The reaction he provoked is priceless.



Naniwa just has no tact in his BM. All seem like hissy fits. Can someone check, but it sure seemed like FBH's BM was well received by koreans.


FBH is controversial for his ceremonies in Korea.
MMA: The true King of Wings
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
December 13 2011 18:05 GMT
#663
"Greg Fields is an angel compared to Naniwa"

I lol'd
Fuck
KeKeSynergy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:05:55
December 13 2011 18:05 GMT
#664
On December 14 2011 03:00 dsousa wrote:
I LOL'd at the "Naniwa does not have qualifications to be a pro gamer".

Naniwa must scare the crap out of Korean society, they are weak to BM. The reaction he provoked is priceless.



Scared? Naniwa is disrespectful. Why do people call him a progamer if he isn't going to put his heart out on every game? It's a shame. If koreans were scared would Naniwa have lost 4 games that day? Stop being so immature.
max1337
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany51 Posts
December 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#665
hahaha... but let's be honest here: how in the world is that not what people want to see?? the fans LOVE drama... wyh is IdrA getting the most attention out of any starcraft 2 player?? Because of his attitude (and his skill too obviously)!! why is combatex?

i mean it's okay to say that naniwa did not act professionally but cmon... nobody can say, that the fans don't want to see this stuff!!
KTFlash!
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
December 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#666
On December 14 2011 03:03 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:00 dsousa wrote:
I LOL'd at the "Naniwa does not have qualifications to be a pro gamer".

Naniwa must scare the crap out of Korean society, they are weak to BM. The reaction he provoked is priceless.



Naniwa just has no tact in his BM. All seem like hissy fits. Can someone check, but it sure seemed like FBH's BM was well received by koreans.


It's pretty obvious Naniwa has some social deficiancies. He might even have mild Aspergers. If he was diagnosed with that, would all his actions suddenly become okay? One of the biggest issues in social situations, is that what people get offended by is entirely up to the person who is offended, and people with a poor understanding of such a situation, say or do things because they dont' find them offensive. I don't see why anyone here gives a shit, why can't they just not like him and move on lol.
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
December 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#667
Naniwa being unprofessional again. Who would have guessed that he would be like that again? I do hope GOM no longer will invite him to be a seeded player if he were to drop out next season. He should have to make his way through the qualifying tournament to earn a Code A spot once more.
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
December 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#668
IMO, it's a true bad move, very selfish behaviour by Naniwa...

Sorry, but even if it doesn't matter for the final results, don't you want to show a proper mindset and try to win it anyway? Doesn't it look nice on your results-list to beat (or at least try to) Nestea, even if he doesn't qualify you? Let alone the viewers who paid to see a show and that might feel disappointed right now.

God, some of the progamers out there forget that they have a great job, where they're paid to play... All the "I don't care attitude, i do what I want" can be badass, but not, and especially not in this manner.

Play your best / don't play your best Naniwa, i don't care at all, I won't watch one more game of you or anyone with the same behaviour.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:09:02
December 13 2011 18:07 GMT
#669
So, they are telling NaNiWa how to play the game? Naniwa is free to do whatever the fuck he pleases as long as he's not cheating. Pulling all your probes definitely is going to lose but if that's naniwa's choice it's fine. There's no restrictions on how to play this game.

Before I'm getting shit: ofc I'm being provoking, but you can't stop someone from doing it. I do think it's a very unprofessional move, though.
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
December 13 2011 18:07 GMT
#670
People are being way too harsh. This shit happens a lot at MLG's where people will even just not show up for a consolation match because they don't care if they get 13th or 14th. Only reason this is being so discussed so much is because it was between Naniwa and a player like Nestea and the fact that they also have a history together.
Live it up.
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
December 13 2011 18:07 GMT
#671
On December 14 2011 03:05 KeKeSynergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:00 dsousa wrote:
I LOL'd at the "Naniwa does not have qualifications to be a pro gamer".

Naniwa must scare the crap out of Korean society, they are weak to BM. The reaction he provoked is priceless.



Scared? Naniwa is disrespectful. Why do people call him a progamer if he isn't going to put his heart out on every game? It's a shame. If koreans were scared would Naniwa have lost 4 games that day? Stop being so immature.


You do realize Naniwa is considered one of the most obsessive about winning in meaningful ways players that this scene has right? He just happens to not give a shit about games that he doesn't feel are legitimately competitve and played for a reason.
KeKeSynergy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
December 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#672
On December 14 2011 03:05 Bajsgrodan wrote:
"Average TL:user":

"Waaahhh waaahhhhh ahhhhhhhh Uhhuhuhuhuhuh.......
waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh...esports....waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
waaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaah"

get it? grow up, and to the Koreans:

"We dont share the same values in the west, diffrent culture. Deal with it"


We don't but he was playing on the Koreans turf. He could've atleast tried to be a pro gamer. People like you need to grow up.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
December 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#673
On December 14 2011 02:57 Usagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:47 fush wrote:
On December 14 2011 02:37 4of8 wrote:
I would have done the same, the game was meaningless and a waste of time.
The reaction of the korean scene is ridiculous. End of story.


showmatches are meaningless, yet people watch them.
football teams still play out their games at the end of the season when they're lying midtable, but they're more or less meaningless as well. they're all idiots based on your logic.

Finishing 9th or finishing 12th can mean a lot (of money) in many leagues.


Including this league. I paid for my ticket, I at least expect some effort. And by not trying here, you can lose subscribers and then you lose money to give out in the future, including to give out Code A spots to foreigners.

After Naniwa claimed he wanted to move to the StarTale house because they treat the game more seriously he follows it up with this farce. How do you expect to be treated like a professional when you don't treat Esports like a profession? I agree with MC that maybe some people need to take notes from WhiteRa.

If throwing a game cost Coca his Code S spot; why should Naniwa be treated differently?
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
tracoes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States45 Posts
December 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#674
The game didn't even matter, how many times did Idra avoid matches which had no meaning?? I think every single one.
the wealthiest is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
December 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#675
why should we expect naniwa/nestea to show there strategies in a game that wont matter?
how insulting is that to the pro gamers? very imho
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
December 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#676
On December 14 2011 03:01 GeNeSiDe wrote:
Beating Nestea on his home turf would have been incredible for Nani's career, I don't think effort should be based on reward.

Like anyone would believe that...

Naniwa beat him already in BO3 and it was discredited anyway. How is BO1 going to make a difference?
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#677
On December 14 2011 03:01 Doodsmack wrote:
I clicked on this thread expecting the discussion to be identical to the discussion going on in the other 2 threads, and...........yup, sure is.

What are you talking about?

There are more than 2 other threads...
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
December 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#678
On December 14 2011 03:06 max1337 wrote:
hahaha... but let's be honest here: how in the world is that not what people want to see?? the fans LOVE drama... wyh is IdrA getting the most attention out of any starcraft 2 player?? Because of his attitude (and his skill too obviously)!! why is combatex?

i mean it's okay to say that naniwa did not act professionally but cmon... nobody can say, that the fans don't want to see this stuff!!


No I don't want to see this stuff. I find Idra as idiot as naniwa when he ragequits a game, or doesn't do his best.
Combatex, i don't even consider him a competitive gamer, just another internet joke that we shoud have get rid off long time ago.

Am i the only one right there that still promotes manner and behaviour over commercial behaviour and douchebaggery? Really ?
KeKeSynergy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
December 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#679
On December 14 2011 03:07 Russano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:05 KeKeSynergy wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:00 dsousa wrote:
I LOL'd at the "Naniwa does not have qualifications to be a pro gamer".

Naniwa must scare the crap out of Korean society, they are weak to BM. The reaction he provoked is priceless.



Scared? Naniwa is disrespectful. Why do people call him a progamer if he isn't going to put his heart out on every game? It's a shame. If koreans were scared would Naniwa have lost 4 games that day? Stop being so immature.


You do realize Naniwa is considered one of the most obsessive about winning in meaningful ways players that this scene has right? He just happens to not give a shit about games that he doesn't feel are legitimately competitve and played for a reason.


Well then he's not fit to be called a pro gamer.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:13:24
December 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#680
On December 14 2011 02:54 hmunkey wrote:
Nani acted like a prick, but it doesn't even matter.

No tourney should have completely pointless matches. It's literally one of the most idiotic things to do. If you're going to show outrage towards a player for throwing a match, at least make sure the match matters more than a ladder game.


I skipped 30 pages to post this. I definitely place the blame much more upon the blizzard cup for having matches that didn't count towards winning the tournament. The same drama occurred before IPL3, to a slightly lesser extent when it was noted how difficult it could be to watch a match, knowing the players might not have given a shit and were just playing for entertainment value and not to win.

I didn't watch all of, nor hear of any matches in IPL where someone deliberately worker rushed in vain to get the matches over with quickly, but I bet some of the foreigner community would go ape shit over it too. Keyword: some; from what I've seen of the Korean reaction to naniwa it sounds like some of the korean fans are upset too. I think both would agree there shouldn't be matches made only for entertainment value.

See boxer vs yellow show match, with everyone getting up and leaving in lines. They COULD have played seriously, but there was no incentive to win, and Boxer knew it would have been a roflstomp. It's not boxer or yellow's fault, it's the entire showmatch.
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