Many people saw the GSL trend worldwide for an hour and stay relevant in NA on Friday night / Saturday morning. There was a post that discussed this on Teamliquid already. The original article stated:
With over 1300 tweets in an hour GSL became the trending topic worldwide on Twitter.
We have 10,000+ watching streams on a daily basis. For the show I run, State of the Game, we easily break 10,000 every Tuesday at 10:30 CDT. If it only takes 1300 tweets (granted I know this was in the middle of the night) then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
This got me thinking: I want to play around with Twitter. We've brought down TL for a couple of seconds on State of the Game and crash TheHandsomeNerd.com weekly. This week, I want to get #ESPORTS trending if only for a couple of seconds.
We generally hit peak concurrent about thirty minutes to an hour into State of the Game so I will most likely ask the chat to tweet all at once right at 05:00 GMT (+00:00).
I don't care if you watch the show (but by all means join us ^^) but if you find yourself awake at this time, throw up a tweet with the hashtag #ESPORTS in it. From my understanding this works better if no one is talking about it before hand, so don't tweet anything with #ESPORTS in it prior to this time.
Lets see if we can turn some heads to find out just what ESPORTS is or fail horribly and all laugh at the attempt.
See you then, I hope.
Edit: Tell people about this thread and the cause. Match my 10,000 from State of the Game, I dare you
Edit 2: This will happen Wednesday, Dec 07 5:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).
Twitter seems to a staple for most of the Starcraft community, but it seems to me like a lot of people aren't a fan of it. That could be one reason, but the main (and most evident one) would certainly just be people's awareness of how much it matters. Getting #ESPORTS trending Worldwide, especially for an extended amount of time, would do a lot to show people that this isn't some weird thing and that it's very popular.
If anything shouldn't this just prove that twitter is basically useless? If 1000 tweets can get something trending worldwide then how may people are there actually using twitter? not may :-/
maybe we can save some time on STOG and not call out everyones twitter account every ep
On December 05 2011 20:23 DarkenedLite wrote: Twitter seems to a staple for most of the Starcraft community, but it seems to me like a lot of people aren't a fan of it. That could be one reason, but the main (and most evident one) would certainly just be people's awareness of how much it matters. Getting #ESPORTS trending Worldwide, especially for an extended amount of time, would do a lot to show people that this isn't some weird thing and that it's very popular.
I can see the future now, Ill be out and about chatting up some women folk. Telling them all about ESPORTS and they'll be like "OMG i though esports was wired but then I noticed it was trending on twitter, so it must be cool!" Then they'll probably suck my off or something because my interest are cool.
Good to experiment but at the same time whats hype about Esports besides your show? Basically If some heads Are turned what the hell kind of tweets are the going to see? This looks to be "how many lemmings can we get on this train" thing which fits twitter well actually. However, I think this experiment lacks a bit of purpose. I feel like some kinda drone instead of a eSports(competitive gaming) supporter.
On December 05 2011 20:35 Ignight wrote: Good to experiment but at the same time whats hype about Esports besides your show? Basically If some heads Are turned what the hell kind of tweets are the going to see? This looks to be "how many lemmings can we get on this train" thing which fits twitter well actually. However, I think this experiment lacks a bit of purpose. I feel like some kinda drone instead of a eSports(competitive gaming) supporter.
If it works, we'll do it every Tuesday (or some other time) promoting certain content from the community. Or something. I just wanna see if it really only takes ~1300 tweets to get something trending worldwide. Imagine using this to give a shout out to a company supporting us.
JP should write a jon-style epic speech/article about esports (or find one somewhere that already exists - i can't think of anything right now), give it an abstract/attentionseeking hashtag title and get that trending, so people find the article but it's not necessarily spamming links
On December 05 2011 20:16 itmeJP wrote: If it only takes 1300 tweets (granted I know this was in the middle of the night) then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
i don't understand how you could be surprised by that to be honest.
it's not like someone can constantly spam their own twitter with SC2 related news. there's literally almost something to watch every single day.
if you tweet say, once a week that's already quite a lot and i actually doubt that the majority people do tweet that often (regarding sc2, ofc) many people have lots of friends who do not even know what esports are and probably do not wanna tweet constantly about SC2 related tournaments.
plus, a lot of people do not even use twitter in the first place.
On December 05 2011 20:37 itmeJP wrote: If it works, we'll do it every Tuesday (or some other time) promoting certain content from the community. Or something. I just wanna see if it Really Only takes ~1300 tweets to get something trending worldwide. Imagine using this to give a shout out to a company supporting us.
Rush the Twitter? A'ite Lets give it a whirl. Why the fuck not.
Did you not read that article? The reason why things like MLG normally don't trend is because people tweet about it all weekend in steady increments. You pretty much mentioned that several times in the OP and I assume you understand what you are saying, but your first paragraph opens up with:
then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
I understand everything you are saying, but you just used your words in weird ways.
TL;DR: Don't get into the writing business JP. >_>
Twitter trending is dumb as fuck. Trying to influence it is even more retarded. Well done on jumping on the same bandwagon as such esteemed company as The Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber.
Someone stop the Esports train because I want to get off.
Trust me if you had SOTG on around 11pm-12am GMT you would have a ton more live viewers and would be able to get it trending on twitter easily imo, EU fans are way more passionate to make Esports big than the NA scene is imo. I fully understand why you dont do it at that time, but am just saying. Good luck and i really hope it works.
On December 05 2011 20:16 itmeJP wrote: For the show I run, State of the Game, we easily break 10,000 every Tuesday at 10:30 CDT. If it only takes 1300 tweets (granted I know this was in the middle of the night) then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
Not doing it? I know a lot of people who just tune out when casters start talking about twitter and how we should all go this and that.
In fact I was trying to do something similar a few days back and it failed miserably ^_ ^
I'm trying to get www.angel.co (a "social network" for investors) to add "E-Sports" as a market on their site to increase exposure to potential investors for my own startup Esporx.tv as well as for the industry as a whole.
JP maybe u can add mentioning @angelList to get #esports trending WHILE getting them to add e-sports as a market ? Double e-sports rising combo!!
On December 05 2011 22:50 YourMom wrote: How did you crash TL.net? That seems so weird to me.
During SOTG sometimes threads on TL are discussed. The huge amount of people who login at the same time to read that thread crashes TL sometimes for a few seconds
With over 1300 tweets in an hour GSL became the trending topic worldwide on Twitter.
We have 10,000+ watching streams on a daily basis. For the show I run, State of the Game, we easily break 10,000 every Tuesday at 10:30 CDT. If it only takes 1300 tweets (granted I know this was in the middle of the night) then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
Quoting from the article:
and it’s mainly because of the % increase in tweets
This means that it only took 1300 tweets because the average amount of tweets was so low in the first place. If 1300 tweets gets the new "average" than it will be way harder to get trending again.
Meaning that this will be most likely a one-time thing.
On December 05 2011 20:16 itmeJP wrote: Many people saw the GSL trend worldwide for an hour and stay relevant in NA on Friday night / Saturday morning. There was a post that discussed this on Teamliquid already. The original article stated:
With over 1300 tweets in an hour GSL became the trending topic worldwide on Twitter.
We have 10,000+ watching streams on a daily basis. For the show I run, State of the Game, we easily break 10,000 every Tuesday at 10:30 CDT. If it only takes 1300 tweets (granted I know this was in the middle of the night) then what in the world are people doing when we as casters say "go tweet about the GSL / MLG / IPL / NASL / whatever"?
I'm the one who wrote the original article regarding GSL Trending and how Trending on Twitter works, and I work with this kind of stuff
I think this is an interesting idea but there are some stuff you have to remember here:
#eSports is much harder to get trending than both NASL and GSL. The amount of tweets for esports are much more than the amount of tweets on GSL and NASL.
If people start tweeting about eSports before the show it will be much harder to get trending on State of the game. It's all about trending % in a short amount of time.
1300 tweets/hour will not likely be enough on the keyword #esports. I can look in to this deeper regarding statistics on how much it will take/how many people. (Pure spam for a keyword does not work that well).
If you want to know more please feel free to ask. I have the tools for stats and can answer questions regarding how Twitter Trending works.
I read the article on Twitter trending, and it seems it's down to how much increase in use a hashtag gets.
I've just looked up #esports on Twitter and found about 22 in the last hour. If #esports is something which gets steady use, it might be worth considering a different tag.
I read the article on Twitter trending, and it seems it's down to how much increase in use a hashtag gets.
I've just looked up #esports on Twitter and found about 22 in the last hour. If #esports is something which gets steady use, it might be worth considering a different tag.
JP said he doesn't want a steady use for #ESPORTS, this is a test to see if we could do other things in the future.
I don't understand the point. I can't imagine it having anything more than (at best) a negligable influence on esports related things even if it was perfectly successful. Are people really sat on Twitter waiting to see what's trending?
I thought the point of twitter was so that utter prats could further their celebrity stalking by listening to each dribble of "news" that's shared. I don't know about anyone else, but I view twitter as the realm of the idiot youth and the rise of the "social" zombies who do nothing but talk on facebook to each other about nothing because all they're doing with their lives is sitting on facebook talking to each other about nothing. Something "trending" on twitter would give me negative, not positive, associations.
Instead of spending the time registering and signing up for twitter, figuring out what to do, and broadcasting your pointless 140 character "tweet" out to the world that no-one will even read because you have no followers (partly because you're a new member, partly because no-one cares what you say), why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
Sorry but that's not useful.
Neither is the new person, sponsorship is everything in eSports. The reason people like to report numbers is so that sponsors can look at those numbers and then they can advertise to those people.
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
Sorry but that's not useful.
Neither is the new person, sponsorship is everything in eSports. The reason people like to report numbers is so that sponsors can look at those numbers and then they can advertise to those people.
I would have thought maintaining a large number of people actually playing the game would be useful.
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
Sorry but that's not useful.
Neither is the new person, sponsorship is everything in eSports. The reason people like to report numbers is so that sponsors can look at those numbers and then they can advertise to those people.
I would have thought maintaining a large number of people actually playing the game would be useful.
Only for the people who made the game.
I don't play SC2, all the people I watch SC2 with have never played.
Playing video games isn't necessary for eSports, same with Sports.
I read the article on Twitter trending, and it seems it's down to how much increase in use a hashtag gets.
I've just looked up #esports on Twitter and found about 22 in the last hour. If #esports is something which gets steady use, it might be worth considering a different tag.
JP said he doesn't want a steady use for #ESPORTS, this is a test to see if we could do other things in the future.
That's kind of my point - #esports already has a steady use, and according to the article, you're more likely to get something trending if there's a sudden increase in a tag which doesn't usually get a lot of use.
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: I thought the point of twitter was so that utter prats could further their celebrity stalking by listening to each dribble of "news" that's shared. I don't know about anyone else, but I view twitter as the realm of the idiot youth and the rise of the "social" zombies who do nothing but talk on facebook to each other about nothing because all they're doing with their lives is sitting on facebook talking to each other about nothing. Something "trending" on twitter would give me negative, not positive, associations.
Instead of spending the time registering and signing up for twitter, figuring out what to do, and broadcasting your pointless 140 character "tweet" out to the world that no-one will even read because you have no followers (partly because you're a new member, partly because no-one cares what you say), why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
EDIT: I fear I am turning into a grumpy old man
The funny thing about social media is, it is what your friends are. If you follow interesting people/have interesting friends, it's awesome. If you follow idiots/have idiotic friends, it's idiotic. Perhaps you should examine yourself before you bash social media.
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: I thought the point of twitter was so that utter prats could further their celebrity stalking by listening to each dribble of "news" that's shared. I don't know about anyone else, but I view twitter as the realm of the idiot youth and the rise of the "social" zombies who do nothing but talk on facebook to each other about nothing because all they're doing with their lives is sitting on facebook talking to each other about nothing. Something "trending" on twitter would give me negative, not positive, associations.
Instead of spending the time registering and signing up for twitter, figuring out what to do, and broadcasting your pointless 140 character "tweet" out to the world that no-one will even read because you have no followers (partly because you're a new member, partly because no-one cares what you say), why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
EDIT: I fear I am turning into a grumpy old man
The funny thing about social media is, it is what your friends are. If you follow interesting people/have interesting friends, it's awesome. If you follow idiots/have idiotic friends, it's idiotic. Perhaps you should examine yourself before you bash social media.
Actually I just speak to and meet up with people that I consider to be my friends. You know, in real life. It is possible to dislike facebook/twitter for reasons other than all your friends being uninteresting idiots.
I personally don't use such things anymore myself.
Anyway, considering it takes as little as 1,000 tweets to do such a thing. It really isn't that hard. You could practically have anything trending worldwide and there really is no limit.
Why stop at #Esports? Flood it with everything if you are going to do that. ._.
Make a sentence 10 words long about esports. Get the community to tweet the first word, then 10 seconds later the 2nd and so on. Set it up so we get a sentence on the trends list! :D
On December 06 2011 01:37 Dujek wrote: Plan; Make a sentence 10 words long about esports. Get the community to tweet the first word, then 10 seconds later the 2nd and so on. Set it up so we get a sentence on the trends list! :D
That would be ridiculously SICK ! Europe can definitely not do that but this is still a great plan.
On December 06 2011 02:58 TORTOISE wrote: Twitter might seem important to you professionals in the "scene," but to Joe Schmoe Twitter is a worthless website. I don't see the point.
Twitter is important to:
1) Social media consultants 2) Entertainment reporters 3) Charlie Sheen
On December 06 2011 00:04 Hairy wrote: I thought the point of twitter was so that utter prats could further their celebrity stalking by listening to each dribble of "news" that's shared. I don't know about anyone else, but I view twitter as the realm of the idiot youth and the rise of the "social" zombies who do nothing but talk on facebook to each other about nothing because all they're doing with their lives is sitting on facebook talking to each other about nothing. Something "trending" on twitter would give me negative, not positive, associations.
Instead of spending the time registering and signing up for twitter, figuring out what to do, and broadcasting your pointless 140 character "tweet" out to the world that no-one will even read because you have no followers (partly because you're a new member, partly because no-one cares what you say), why not spend that time doing something USEFUL for e-sports like telling a new person about why the game is so great. Or hell, just go play a game of starcraft. There's no need to artificially inflate the pointless social media chirruping - just go and help grow ESPORTS! The social shit that inevitably and unavoidably surrounds everything nowadays will grow appropriately of its own accord anyway.
EDIT: I fear I am turning into a grumpy old man
You can replace every mention of "twitter" to "teamliquid" and you've got yourself an ironic post.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
Well, giving my opinion: To make it more effective, dont just trend it once. Start trying to trend it every time a major event happens. People will be curious to find out the meaning if they dont know when they see it pop up all the time. This doesnt happen on once a time trends.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
Is there a twitter delay server or timer thingy, so i can contribute to this while i'm sleeping? It's a cool idea, but not cool enough to set an alarm.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
I really couldn't agree more with this and thank you for putting it bluntly so that even your average moron should be able to understand. It kinda saddens me to see the reaction some people have had to what JP suggested. Are some of you people honestly telling me that you are too lazy to hop on to twitter for 2 seconds and make a tweet about something you like/love? I mean I can only assume you have at least a small degree of love for SC2 or ESPORTS in general since you are posting on bloody TEAMLIQUID! Hilarious that you would take the time to make a negative comment about a good experiment like JP suggested but you don't have that time to do something that naturally brings attention to ESPORTS.
Now I am the first person who hates social media for the purpose your average young nitwit uses it for, but the one thing that I can't deny about social media is that it is a huge hub for drawing attention to things. Part of this reason is because so many people use it nowadays, how could something that's trending/being posted a lot NOT be noticed by a large crowd? And is this not a good thing if we want this industry to grow and become better? And on that note, I see absolutely no harm in making a quick tweet about the GSL or ESPORTS in general, and if you do see harm in that then I think you have a very poor understanding of the current world we live in. If you are going to take a stand on not doing something, then maybe you should spend that energy taking a stand on something that actually IS bad like oh, I dunno, animal cruelty or oppressive government regimes? And keep in mind I'm not telling anyone what specifically to care about or take a stand on, just saying maybe to rethink your priorities.
I for one will gladly hop on and make a tweet at the appropriate time, for it is all I ever really use my twitter account for anyway
On December 06 2011 02:58 TORTOISE wrote: Twitter might seem important to you professionals in the "scene," but to Joe Schmoe Twitter is a worthless website. I don't see the point.
Looking forward to SOTG, though!
Twitter tells me when my favourite players are streaming, informs me about upcoming tournaments and tells me the results of tournament games that have just finished. Best part is, if I dislike any of those things or want to use twitter for something else, I can follow different people!
On December 05 2011 20:24 NoobStyles wrote: If anything shouldn't this just prove that twitter is basically useless? If 1000 tweets can get something trending worldwide then how may people are there actually using twitter? not may :-/
maybe we can save some time on STOG and not call out everyones twitter account every ep
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You don't know how Twitter works, do you? T_T; There are millions of people talking about all sorts of different things; trending topics are certain keywords that see a large spike in activity during a short period of time. Having an otherwise unmentioned topic (in this case, #GSL) suddenly spike ~1000% in the middle of the night (low traffic time) and become a trending topic isn't unreasonable, and certainly doesn't "prove" that Twitter is basically useless.
On December 06 2011 04:20 xi Tempest x wrote: Why not delay one or two hours? Then you would get most of Europe aswell? instead of just some.
It needs to be during the SotG broadcast, and I doubt they would move that back for a slight boost in an experiment.
There are a lot of Twitter services like Twuffer that allows you to schedule tweets. So if you really, really want to be involved in this experiment you can participate if you are sleeping .
needless to say, as someone on the east coast i was exhausted the next day running on only 5 hours of sleep after the excitement of the games wore off (something like 6 or 7 am). i have work tomorrow (im a teacher T_T), but you'll have the power of my tweets for as long as i can muster strength to stay awake. i'm still not totally caught up on sleep, though.
I don't know... why don't we just keep crashing TheHandsomeNerd.com?
But in all honesty, I guess I will make a garbage twitter account if I have time during the show... and in fact I would encourage you to ask people to do so as well at the beginning of the show. Just say it can be a garbage account that they don't have to use for anything else. :D
On December 06 2011 05:11 hugman wrote: I don't really understand why anyone cares if something is trending on twitter Do you people ever look there except to see if GSL is trending?
It doesn't take a degree in rocket science to realize it isn't for the people already going there to trend GSL or ESPORTS, it's for the people that are on twitter that DON'T know about it. If they see it trending then they are more inclined to have their interest piqued and will hopefully put in the effort to find out more about it.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
I posted this to reddit, but there are a lot of "trending is pointless" comments in this thread so I thought I'd share my view here as well.
I think getting on the list of trending topics is less important than having the followers of thousands of people being exposed to something that they may not otherwise be aware of. Maybe there's a bigwig in the model train community who happens to enjoy watching StoG. If this guy has 2000 model train enthusiast followers that's 2000 people hearing about esports from a source whose opinion they care about.
Realistically though I don't think this will matter at all. It may work its way into an article or two but I think it's cool simply as a big project that we can all be a part of.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
I think it should say something about the community, which is what he's trying to do, if there are enough people watching to actually skyrocket this all the way up the trending list. It's not like he's saying we should go around spamming people we don't know on Facebook with links to SotG, all he's asking is for a coordinated effort from ESPORTS fans to a) test a theory, because 1000 tweets/hour for a trend really does seem pretty low, and b) because there are TONS of people on Twitter who, when they see what is trending, go "Hey, what is #ESPORTS and why is it trending?"
There's really no harm in what he's trying to do, it seems to me like you're just trying to vilify JP for no real reason.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
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I laughed quite uncontrollably at this response. Thank you for making my day, sir.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
I was gonna reply to this also with pretty much exactly what you said lol but I figured that somebody would anyway and you have proven that assumption true. Seriously though, anybody making a big stink about this should read the underlying message in this post, which is quite simply, get over it and yourself.
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system.
Yeah, the idea is to game the system. We are gamers, after all. : )
It won't mean that ESPORTS is the most popular thing in the universe (to the point it can trend whenever), but so what? The purpose of the experiment is to see if it can done sucessfully and, hey, if more people know about ESPORTS this way, what is the harm?
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
Hahaahah that has to one of the best replies ever conceived.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.
I don't, and never said I did. I am simply willing to contribute if I have the time. Nice attempt to try to respond with a clever remark.
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote: so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.
1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...
2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.
The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.
It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.
He said as he got 22 words to appear on a website.
I swear to Christ TL has some of the biggest fucking tools on it. You should have aptitude/personality tests before allowing someone to sign up, seriously.
Any time anyone suggests to do anything to rally up eSports or SC2, you have basement trolls come out of the wood work to try to demean it. Anyone who doesn't understand the significance of setting a trend on Twitter either doesn't read the news ever or thinks social media is a neat way to talk to friends.
I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.
I like this idea a lot If we can get sponsors to see esports coming up n conversation then we can hopefully move to a whole new level of awesome I shall be sending my tweet at 9 :D
On December 06 2011 08:59 Blurry wrote: I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.
Im pretty sure JP or someone could go, Look at these people, they'll do anything to support this movement! If you sponsor us, then they can support you!
On December 06 2011 08:59 Blurry wrote: I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.
I see no problem with this whatsoever. So what if its a marketing gimmick? If it fails who does it hurt? Maybe JP, if he ends up looking dumb because it didn't work, but really thats about it. If it works, the increased attention could not possibly be a bad thing for SC2 in general. I don't see why anyone would have an issue with this.
On December 06 2011 09:24 iky43210 wrote: don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft
Yea, I'd be on board with this. I support starcraft, not every other game that wants to hop on the band wagon of trying to become another e-sport.
yeah, damn those bandwagoning games trying to become esports, Starcraft 2 started esports! those other games never did anything for esports they are just posers!
On December 06 2011 09:24 iky43210 wrote: don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft
Yea, I'd be on board with this. I support starcraft, not every other game that wants to hop on the band wagon of trying to become another e-sport.
yeah, damn those bandwagoning games trying to become esports, Starcraft 2 started esports! those other games never did anything for esports they are just posers!
I'ma go ahead and interpret that as sarcasm. Sarcasm started esports (dare you to deny it). Halo and CS started MLG / esports in the west (never watched a game of either in my life, but I still understand the importance of these games). SC2 just took it to a whole new level that was unimaginable in the west before (and already attained, and still sustained, in Korea).
Please take off your SC2 blinders and look at the bigger picture.
On December 05 2011 20:24 NoobStyles wrote: If anything shouldn't this just prove that twitter is basically useless? If 1000 tweets can get something trending worldwide then how may people are there actually using twitter? not may :-/
maybe we can save some time on STOG and not call out everyones twitter account every ep
Twitter rapidly gained worldwide popularity, with over 300 million users as of 2011,[6] generating over 300 million tweets and handling over 1.6 billion search queries per day.[3][8][9] It is sometimes described as "the SMS of the Internet."[10]
Hey Hey Hey "reporting for duty" after Funday Monday _ and LO3 ___ SOTG is in my top three shows to watch and without a doubt as soon i know what to tweet it will be done.
I think most people use Twitter only to follow others, not use it actively and actually tweet stuff. TBH whenever Tastosis tells me to tweet I have no ideea what to write and seems kinda pointless when nobody is actually following my account. Most people, myself included, only got on twitter to follow the koreans twitter accounts so I don't actually use it for anything else. I can retweet something if its for a good cause. Probably if I am awake on wendsday morning (im in eu) and JP or someone I follow tweets something and ask us to RT it then I will...otherwise I will probably just ignore it.
Don't mean to sound critical but I'm not sure if it is a social experiment though..?
If you Twitter users out there want to make a difference you should make your voice heard to those that support e-sports. E.g. Tweet @SteelSeries @AMDChannel @EIZO_Global @SapphireUSA and thank them for supporting Dreamhack (or whatever event you like) and e-sports and tell them that they rock! I believe this could actually make a difference long term.
On December 06 2011 22:58 ShotgunMike wrote: I would do this if I had a Twitter account!
Make one. All you need is an e-mail address and a minute or two to register. You don't need to follow anybody or tweet about anything ever. It's not a commitment.
You could never touch the account again afterward.
If you don't want to do it, say you don't want to do it. Don't say "I'd do it if I could but i don't have an account." because making an account is super easy.
On December 05 2011 20:22 FXOpen wrote: The question I will ask, and i think its a good one.
Does twitter trending actually do anything?
Sometimes theres some really weird shit in the trending...
Who knows. Maybe we should link it to an article describing what ESPORTS is in all the posts?
Should link it to the article in Scientific America About the possibility expertise skill transfer in starcraft (meaning when you get expertise at SC2 you don't just Get good at SC2 the way you just get good at chess, you get good at spatial rotational reasoning, crisis managment, decision making, multitasking... really a huge deal, very few things have expertise skill transfer) They interview the Skill Craft guy too.
the LoL scene is trying to support JP's experiment on Reddit, some of them will tweet as well so please help them by upvoting the topic on Reddit and encourage them to participate
Wouldn't surprise me if someone at Twitter removed it for not being a "genuine" trend, seemed rather short-lived and I guess they wouldn't like it being shown how easy it is to make something trending.
On December 07 2011 14:13 R1CH wrote: Wouldn't surprise me if someone at Twitter removed it for not being a "genuine" trend, seemed rather short-lived and I guess they wouldn't like it being shown how easy it is to make something trending.
Quick, JP!! Make everyone do it again at the same time to see if there is a conspiracy out there to kill #eSports!
I think rather than someone removing it, it's required to jump up and then be sustained for a period of time. Seeing as it disappeared, and then reappeared when people realized it disappeared, and then comparing that to the other trending topics which are more of a constant stream....
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