Man, it's a good thing not everyone is judged by what they did before they had the lights turned on them or we would never have anyone in the spotlight ever! No Presidents, No world leaders... and no SC2 casters.
Give me a break people. We have had this conversation before. If he was doing this stuff in public recently, on his stream with THOUSands of viewers, I could see why you might get upset. but most of the recent pictures that have come out have been from private ladder games that weren't even streamed (afaik), and all of the "public" evidence is from old stream vods.
If we all got fleeced for the things we said in private behind closed doors not one of you would be able to show your face. The utter hypocrisy surrounding this whole thing is astounding.
I like Orb's casting, he is one of the best. Until his underwear was thrown in my face I would have never known what his ass smelled like. Shame on all who are perpetuating this and trying to ruin this guys shot at a career in ESPORTS. Shame on you all.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
On March 09 2012 05:56 blamous wrote: If we all got fleeced for the things we said in private behind closed doors not one of you would be able to show your face.
I'm pretty sure telling people on BNet that they're 'niggers' doesn't qualify as "in private behind closed doors".
i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone.
People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene.
I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community?
It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it..
There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone.
I completely agree. I find it really dumb to get upset on someone for calling another person "hey,you black dude" but with "nigger". What is this world? Chill down.
Doesn't this Orb "nigger" rage drama deserve its own thread? I mean this is a thread directed at casting feedback, not feedback of his rage outbursts on stream or ladder.
Nonetheless, I do think there needs to be ramifications, especially if Katu can get fired from Playhem for making jokes during a cast about a stream cheater.
Yes this is relevant to his casting because, last I checked, people aren't just racists during their free time. It's already affecting his career and it will continue to do so if he doesn't cut it out.
Do you honestly think orb is racist?
Because if you don't then this post is way out of line.
Yes, I think people who use racial slurs are racist.
You can twist logic all you want to make it seem like it's ok but language that marginalizes any minority group is bigoted and unacceptable. I feel like this should be common sense but I'll spell out my position clearly:
Do not use racial slurs.
Wow, welcome to the Internet good sir. I didn't realize we had a newcomer.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone.
People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene.
I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community?
It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it..
There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone.
I completely agree. I find it really dumb to get upset on someone for calling another person "hey,you black dude" but with "nigger". What is this world? Chill down.
Doesn't this Orb "nigger" rage drama deserve its own thread? I mean this is a thread directed at casting feedback, not feedback of his rage outbursts on stream or ladder.
Nonetheless, I do think there needs to be ramifications, especially if Katu can get fired from Playhem for making jokes during a cast about a stream cheater.
Yes this is relevant to his casting because, last I checked, people aren't just racists during their free time. It's already affecting his career and it will continue to do so if he doesn't cut it out.
Do you honestly think orb is racist?
Because if you don't then this post is way out of line.
Yes, I think people who use racial slurs are racist.
You can twist logic all you want to make it seem like it's ok but language that marginalizes any minority group is bigoted and unacceptable. I feel like this should be common sense but I'll spell out my position clearly:
Do not use racial slurs.
Wow, welcome to the Internet good sir. I didn't realize we had a newcomer.
If people want to post nigger jokes on 4chan I couldn't care less, but orb is a representative of a big e-sports team. He is representing the starcraft community and what he says matters. He may not realise this, but it's a fact wether he likes it or not. If he can't keep his racist remarks to himself he isn't fit to represent a banana stand.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
I think this is kind of true for europeans. Look at the soccer leagues in europe and how many incidents there are of racism and black soccer players being called monkeys by fans. Rio Ferdinand has come out before and talked about the racism in soccer in europe. They're just desensitized to it I think and don't realize the impact those kinds of words cause.
New feedback for Orb: you're too old to be a rage-aholic white nerd, even 'after-hours'. Man-up and learn to respect the rest of society if you want to keep your job as a professional broadcaster.
i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone.
People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene.
I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community?
It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it..
There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone.
I completely agree. I find it really dumb to get upset on someone for calling another person "hey,you black dude" but with "nigger". What is this world? Chill down.
Doesn't this Orb "nigger" rage drama deserve its own thread? I mean this is a thread directed at casting feedback, not feedback of his rage outbursts on stream or ladder.
Nonetheless, I do think there needs to be ramifications, especially if Katu can get fired from Playhem for making jokes during a cast about a stream cheater.
Yes this is relevant to his casting because, last I checked, people aren't just racists during their free time. It's already affecting his career and it will continue to do so if he doesn't cut it out.
Do you honestly think orb is racist?
Because if you don't then this post is way out of line.
Yes, I think people who use racial slurs are racist.
You can twist logic all you want to make it seem like it's ok but language that marginalizes any minority group is bigoted and unacceptable. I feel like this should be common sense but I'll spell out my position clearly:
Do not use racial slurs.
Wow, welcome to the Internet good sir. I didn't realize we had a newcomer.
If people want to post nigger jokes on 4chan I couldn't care less, but orb is a representative of a big e-sports team. He is representing the starcraft community and what he says matters. He may not realise this, but it's a fact wether he likes it or not. If he can't keep his racist remarks to himself he isn't fit to represent a banana stand.
we are not anon or /b/tards. and he has to be subjected under higher standards whether he likes it or not
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone.
People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene.
I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community?
It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it..
There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone.
I completely agree. I find it really dumb to get upset on someone for calling another person "hey,you black dude" but with "nigger". What is this world? Chill down.
Doesn't this Orb "nigger" rage drama deserve its own thread? I mean this is a thread directed at casting feedback, not feedback of his rage outbursts on stream or ladder.
Nonetheless, I do think there needs to be ramifications, especially if Katu can get fired from Playhem for making jokes during a cast about a stream cheater.
Yes this is relevant to his casting because, last I checked, people aren't just racists during their free time. It's already affecting his career and it will continue to do so if he doesn't cut it out.
Do you honestly think orb is racist?
Because if you don't then this post is way out of line.
Yes, I think people who use racial slurs are racist.
You can twist logic all you want to make it seem like it's ok but language that marginalizes any minority group is bigoted and unacceptable. I feel like this should be common sense but I'll spell out my position clearly:
Do not use racial slurs.
Wow, welcome to the Internet good sir. I didn't realize we had a newcomer.
If people want to post nigger jokes on 4chan I couldn't care less, but orb is a representative of a big e-sports team. He is representing the starcraft community and what he says matters. He may not realise this, but it's a fact wether he likes it or not. If he can't keep his racist remarks to himself he isn't fit to represent a banana stand.
Dude if you think every person who uses the n word online is racist then you just need a reality check man.
Cause that's the post you responded to you know. Maybe you didn't get that.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Learn to read, I specifically said that it isn't justifiable to use the term 'faggot'. In fact, I think it's disgusting. I was merely pointing out the fact that it's considered far more offensive to use the term 'nigger', which it is.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Again, learn to read. I never said anything to the contrary.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
Did you copy paste that from a 1960's textbook? I genuinely feel like "don't be a bigot" is a very very simple thing to ask and yet for some reason I'm met with this...wtf is this?
I'm not a fan of orb's casting. I don't like how his voice is high pitched nasaly and whiny, although I understand you can't really control your voice. I'm not a fan of the way he commentates, mainly how excited he gets, and how he tries to be analytic without the knowledge that the true analytic casters like day9 and artosis have. I don't like how he rages and has no respect for anyone (granted that's not during casting but still.) I am sad that to watch the EG masters cup I'll have to put up with his casting, unless he improves.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
Did you copy paste that from a 1960's textbook? I genuinely feel like "don't be a bigot" is a very very simple thing to ask and yet for some reason I'm met with this...wtf is this?
"Don't be a bigot" and "Never use conventionally bigoted language" are two incredibly different things. And if my language reminds you of textbooks then I am flattered.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
Did you copy paste that from a 1960's textbook? I genuinely feel like "don't be a bigot" is a very very simple thing to ask and yet for some reason I'm met with this...wtf is this?
"Don't be a bigot" and "Never use conventionally bigoted language" are two incredibly different things. And if my language reminds you of textbooks then I am flattered.
If it walks like a bigot and talks like a bigot, it's probably a bigot. If you're using bigoted language one of two things is true:
1. You have a grossly limited vocabulary. 2. You are a bigot.
I said your language reminds me of a textbook from the 1960's. Using big words to justify intolerance for tiny minds.
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
Did you copy paste that from a 1960's textbook? I genuinely feel like "don't be a bigot" is a very very simple thing to ask and yet for some reason I'm met with this...wtf is this?
"Don't be a bigot" and "Never use conventionally bigoted language" are two incredibly different things. And if my language reminds you of textbooks then I am flattered.
Are they really though? Why would calling someone a nigger be a bad thing other than it still carrying a negative connotation? As long as you're using that term you're still affirming that being black is a bad thing, and calling someone black is an insult.
Orb's a professional. He should have apologized and moved on. He doubled down and got caught. Now it's a much bigger problem
congratulations, you want to be a commentator and use "nigger" and "faggot", both words which are _FAR_ from anything what is tolerable for anyone and especially for someone who wants to be a commentator. I hope no tournament will let a homophobic racist like you cast any games in the future
And once again someone acts as if there's no distinction between the word 'faggot' and 'nigger'. There is a difference, and it's massive. Although the word 'faggot' is homophobic it was thrown around for many years without any thought, especially by young people. It was used interchangeably with other mindless insults, such as 'gay'. That doesn't justify people using it but it makes it a hell of a lot more understandable and innocent than using 'nigger'. Anyone who lives in America should know that the latter is considered far, far more offensive.
I can only imagine that people like you are playing dumb and pretending to not know that 'nigger' has a very unique place among insults. It's so well understood in America that you would have to be completely cut off from the mainstream.
Americans being moral hypocrites in these kind of cases is nothing new.
People from outside of America not understanding the weight that the term 'nigger' carries, nothing new.
Privileged but ignorant Americans not understanding that their homophobia isn't excusable or justifiable just because lots of people on the internet have it.
Is it really so hard to understand that any bigoted language is bad?
Your lack of willingness to challenge stereotypical implementations of "offensive" language is truly frightening, you act as though certain words or phrases are perpetually tied together with their temporal use/meaning, when nothing could be farther from the truth. To combat the hateful/racist/bigoted ideas that give offensive context to slurs seems the most noble of goals. Meanwhile, you simply blanket label certain sorts of expressions as "bad", and the end result is only a further entrenchment of stereotypes. Nothing is ever so black and white.
Did you copy paste that from a 1960's textbook? I genuinely feel like "don't be a bigot" is a very very simple thing to ask and yet for some reason I'm met with this...wtf is this?
"Don't be a bigot" and "Never use conventionally bigoted language" are two incredibly different things. And if my language reminds you of textbooks then I am flattered.
Are they really though? Why would calling someone a nigger be a bad thing other than it still carrying a negative connotation? As long as you're using that term you're still affirming that being black is a bad thing, and calling someone black is an insult.
Orb's a professional. He should have apologized and moved on. He doubled down and got caught. Now it's a much bigger problem
I think that's a pretty big part of it. When people own up to their mistakes and don't make excuses about it, most people can usually forgive and get over it. Ya it still wouldn't have been good, but it could be been a lot less bad. Reminds me of that whole incontrol restream thing a while back, which turned out to not be so terrible because he quickly and sincerely apologized, on top of explaining his actions.
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