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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
GET THOSE NERDS!! NERRDDSS!! NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDSSS!!!!!! | ||
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betaman
United Kingdom355 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:37 Slardar wrote: HEY THREAD, Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone. People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene. I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community? | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:55 betaman wrote: I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community? I burn people for Nikes. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
On March 09 2012 00:08 Seraphone wrote: There's so many kids in this thread who've never lived in the real world and worked a real job as a professional person so somehow they've developed the bizzare idea that using language like this is mainstream and okay. It's not. Grow up. ESports will never ever be mainstream when it's infested with people like this. Underrated post. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:55 betaman wrote: I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community? Outside of his professional life? Why not? I don't like this kind of argument. Couldn't you say the same thing if we found a picture of him in bdsm gear or going to a drag show? "We don't want this person representing our community." | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 09 2012 02:00 DoubleReed wrote: Outside of his professional life? Why not? I don't like this kind of argument. Couldn't you say the same thing if we found a picture of him in bdsm gear or going to a drag show? "We don't want this person representing our community." No, because they aren't morally wrong. Raging at people over the internet continuously is. | ||
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krisss
Luxembourg305 Posts
On March 09 2012 02:00 DoubleReed wrote: Outside of his professional life? Why not? I don't like this kind of argument. Couldn't you say the same thing if we found a picture of him in bdsm gear or going to a drag show? "We don't want this person representing our community." When orb the kind of guy who likes it, and his partners too, wheres the problem? If he would go to nazi parades in his sparetime, i would definately have a problem with it. Dont u see the difference? Hes intentionally harming other people. He just has a very very very bad attitude toward SC2, its gamers, and life in gerneral i seems. I dont want such a person around me, wheather its SC2, or real life. | ||
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betaman
United Kingdom355 Posts
On March 09 2012 02:00 DoubleReed wrote: Outside of his professional life? Why not? I don't like this kind of argument. Couldn't you say the same thing if we found a picture of him in bdsm gear or going to a drag show? "We don't want this person representing our community." So he can do whatever he wants as long as it is outside his professional life? He can attend KKK meetings (i dont think orb is a racist btw i just think hes an idiot) but as it is outside his professional life its ok? Get a clue, when you become a figurehead of a community everything you do represents that community whether that is right or wrong it is simply a fact. | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
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Ectrid
Germany51 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:55 betaman wrote: I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community? It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it.. There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
hey, everyone. alex (ceo of evil geniuses) here. i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously. there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part. please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally. Incoming statement about the situation. Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/qmvdb/orb_really_loves_the_n_word_on_ladder/c3yxw35 On March 09 2012 02:43 shell wrote: It's up to each of us to decide that, what's not fair is everythime someone makes a mistake, the angry vocal minority comes to TL or reddit and tries to force their views on stuff to the others that don't feel the same way about everything. The guy made a mistake, he doesn't deserve to die, be banned, be fired by EG, etc.. because of it.. There are bigger problems in eSports and the world then someone saying some bullshit stupid comments privately to someone. I completely agree. I find it really dumb to get upset on someone for calling another person "hey,you black dude" but with "nigger". What is this world? Chill down. | ||
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suspiciousbear
Canada112 Posts
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
On March 09 2012 02:09 betaman wrote: So he can do whatever he wants as long as it is outside his professional life? He can attend KKK meetings (i dont think orb is a racist btw i just think hes an idiot) but as it is outside his professional life its ok? Get a clue, when you become a figurehead of a community everything you do represents that community whether that is right or wrong it is simply a fact. Understandable (although it does feel blacklist-ish to me). But if you don't think he's racist then again I don't see what the problem is. People should be allowed to be stupid and get drunk and such. Losing your job over it? After apologies to the community? Don't you think that's too far? | ||
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Quenchiest
Canada286 Posts
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smallerk
897 Posts
He never showed any of this unprofessional behaviour while he was on stream, so i dont see why people are being so harsh to him, everyone rages, everyone gets mad playing online games.Plus, he already more than likely learned his lesson, and will never do it again, i dont see why he should lose his job because he lashed out at someone on the ladder once or twice. Reddit is so sad, just a bunch of people that never had a real job complaining immaturely so they can get imaginary internet points. I dont think it's ok to insult people like he did , for the record.I just think the sc2 community is overreacting once again. | ||
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Titorelli
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:37 Slardar wrote: HEY THREAD, Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone. People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene. Slardar, you're my favorite stream mod since Maia, but I disagree whole-heartedly in this case. Proliferation of racial slurs from a representative of the community is unacceptable. His words and his public image reflects the public image of the StarCraft community and, by extension, that of eSports. Do we want someone who is childish, offensive, and uncontrollably angry to represent us? I don't think the "let he among us without sin cast the first stone" holds water either. Orb is a figurehead and a representative of the entire community, and as such, must be held to a higher degree of scrutiny than the rest of us. He should be the model for others, and, in light of this overwhelming evidence, his influence has been entirely negative. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46649 Posts
On March 09 2012 03:01 Titorelli wrote: Wait did this whole thing happen back in the beta or a couple of days ago? Kinda missed all that Once in a while he's made these remarks on his stream (never in his casts), as far back as the beta. From what I've gathered, the most recent remark was made before he joined EG though (not while actually being on EG). And he's never made these comments while commentating a match, only while playing the game (he occasionally rages and BMs while streaming). I think ^^ If someone else can elaborate/ clarify, please do | ||
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Korste
United States64 Posts
please dont stop just because i few whiney kids are mad that you bm on ladder. and a bunch of nerds mad that you smoke tree's.... /facepalm stay faded, man. | ||
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