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In your opinion, who’s the best Starcraft 2 player right now?
MVP (IM), NesTea(IM), MC (oGs), Leenock (FXO), and JookTo (oGs). Something along that line? I am actually learning a lot from watching MVP’s vod replays. Once a pro-gamer is on fire, they’re usually invincible and I feel that such is the case with MVP. MVP can probably win even without practicing with the way he’s been playing. Also, I respect and am jealous of Nestea who have won 3 times already and have been maintaining his status as a top player for a while despite his old age compared to all the other pro-gamers.
lol wut. Jookto SC2 practice bonjwa?
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Great interview, thanks for translating. Can't wait to see more of him.
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On December 03 2011 03:20 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 02:49 Rostam wrote:On December 03 2011 02:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 03 2011 02:29 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 03 2011 02:19 yoonstar91 wrote:On December 03 2011 02:15 HolydaKing wrote:On December 03 2011 02:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
SC2 Terran is more complicated than SC1 Terran. Well said.
Thanks for the translation. I read it as bionic being more complicated than in SC1. Anyway, thanks for the interview! Was waiting for this. I think it really depends on the way you read. I think he's saying that Bionic is also more difficult to use. Therefore terran overall is more difficult in sc2. =) i think.. hehe Thanks though. I appreciate your comment! Thanks for reading guys! Considering how hard bw was in general, I find this a little hard to believe haha. Maybe it's different for a top-level pro. BW Terran is mechanically harder than SC2 Terran. But the Terran race was simpler in BW (for better or for worse). Difficulty and simplicity are two different things. How? BW Terran mechanically harder: only one building selected at a time, no auto-mine rally point, only 12 units per control group SC2 Terran more complex: more viable bio variety and viability (in BW, bio is viable only in TvZ excluding cheese and your composition is mostly marine, medic and sometimes a firebat), tons more openers in SC2 (2-rax, banshee w/ or wo/ cloak, reactor hellion, blue-flame hellion, 1-rax expand, cc-first, siege-expand, fast medivac drops, marine-tank push, hellion-marauder push, 1-1-1, 2-port banshee, 3-rax stim timing, iEchoic, ghost-rush, bunker rush, Boxer's reaper rush, etc), the addon-system and addon-swapping in SC2 adds complexity to build optimization and timing. In general, SC2 Terran units are more viable in most matchups than in BW and that adds complexity.
Bio is not the only viable TvZ build in BW, it's just the most effective. Besides nearly every bio ends up transitioning into some kind of mech bio/mech. There are however a few players that do poorly with bio, so they actually make do with straight mech sometimes. (looking at you fantasy!)
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We need to get this guy to a MLG so he see how much foreign fans love him.
I can see him getting to where MVP is pretty quickly.
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On December 03 2011 03:30 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 03:20 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 03 2011 02:49 Rostam wrote:On December 03 2011 02:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 03 2011 02:29 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 03 2011 02:19 yoonstar91 wrote:On December 03 2011 02:15 HolydaKing wrote:On December 03 2011 02:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
SC2 Terran is more complicated than SC1 Terran. Well said.
Thanks for the translation. I read it as bionic being more complicated than in SC1. Anyway, thanks for the interview! Was waiting for this. I think it really depends on the way you read. I think he's saying that Bionic is also more difficult to use. Therefore terran overall is more difficult in sc2. =) i think.. hehe Thanks though. I appreciate your comment! Thanks for reading guys! Considering how hard bw was in general, I find this a little hard to believe haha. Maybe it's different for a top-level pro. BW Terran is mechanically harder than SC2 Terran. But the Terran race was simpler in BW (for better or for worse). Difficulty and simplicity are two different things. How? BW Terran mechanically harder: only one building selected at a time, no auto-mine rally point, only 12 units per control group SC2 Terran more complex: more viable bio variety and viability (in BW, bio is viable only in TvZ excluding cheese and your composition is mostly marine, medic and sometimes a firebat), tons more openers in SC2 (2-rax, banshee w/ or wo/ cloak, reactor hellion, blue-flame hellion, 1-rax expand, cc-first, siege-expand, fast medivac drops, marine-tank push, hellion-marauder push, 1-1-1, 2-port banshee, 3-rax stim timing, iEchoic, ghost-rush, bunker rush, Boxer's reaper rush, etc), the addon-system and addon-swapping in SC2 adds complexity to build optimization and timing. In general, SC2 Terran units are more viable in most matchups than in BW and that adds complexity. Bio is not the only viable TvZ build in BW, it's just the most effective. Besides nearly every bio ends up transitioning into some kind of mech bio/mech. There are however a few players that do poorly with bio, so they actually make do with straight mech sometimes. (looking at you fantasy!)
I meant that out of the 3 Terran matchups, bio is only viable in TvZ excluding cheese.
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Nice interview and thanks for the translation yoonstar!
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Nice interview, thanks man!
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So the best players are MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock, and... Jookto? We might have to pay attention to this guy.
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On December 03 2011 03:20 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 02:49 Rostam wrote:On December 03 2011 02:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 03 2011 02:29 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 03 2011 02:19 yoonstar91 wrote:On December 03 2011 02:15 HolydaKing wrote:On December 03 2011 02:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
SC2 Terran is more complicated than SC1 Terran. Well said.
Thanks for the translation. I read it as bionic being more complicated than in SC1. Anyway, thanks for the interview! Was waiting for this. I think it really depends on the way you read. I think he's saying that Bionic is also more difficult to use. Therefore terran overall is more difficult in sc2. =) i think.. hehe Thanks though. I appreciate your comment! Thanks for reading guys! Considering how hard bw was in general, I find this a little hard to believe haha. Maybe it's different for a top-level pro. BW Terran is mechanically harder than SC2 Terran. But the Terran race was simpler in BW (for better or for worse). Difficulty and simplicity are two different things. How? BW Terran mechanically harder: only one building selected at a time, no auto-mine rally point, only 12 units per control group SC2 Terran more complex: more viable bio variety and viability (in BW, bio is viable only in TvZ excluding cheese and your composition is mostly marine, medic and sometimes a firebat), tons more openers in SC2 (2-rax, banshee w/ or wo/ cloak, reactor hellion, blue-flame hellion, 1-rax expand, cc-first, siege-expand, fast medivac drops, marine-tank push, hellion-marauder push, 1-1-1, 2-port banshee, 3-rax stim timing, iEchoic, ghost-rush, bunker rush, Boxer's reaper rush, etc), the addon-system and addon-swapping in SC2 adds complexity to build optimization and timing. In general, SC2 Terran units are more viable in most matchups than in BW and that adds complexity.
You're giving BW Terran a short stick with your description. All three you mentioned were true for both BW Zerg and BW Protoss as well.
BW Terran was a race that has a lot of nuance in its play, when to defend, when to move out, how to split your army, what ground to cover, how to block chokes. Vultures, BW siege tanks and wraiths are some of the most skill-based units in Starcraft history. Their effectiveness radically changes with skill and there have been players who made a living just mastering one of these three.
BW Terran is also the most cheese proof race in SC history. If you're good, you can use the same few builds over and over again and come back even from build order advantages. SC2 Terran requires more guessing and some build order luck. You can't just map split and defend your way out of any disadvantage. There's more risk taking required.
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Oh yeah some A class players are finally moving to sc2
Next its Hiya !!
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On December 03 2011 03:42 therockmanxx wrote:
Oh yeah some A class players are finally moving to sc2
Next its Hiya !!
HyuN, hiya is going to military
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On December 03 2011 03:42 therockmanxx wrote:
Oh yeah some A class players are finally moving to sc2
Next its Hiya !!
Hiya is not going to play SC2 professionally.
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People are overeading his answer on "difficulty". Typical korean interview answer. Plus he came from a game where he was top50... He probably does not care about it.
His statement about his prime is pretty cute. Yeah "new builds appeared in my head", king of two fact...
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On December 03 2011 03:47 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 03:42 therockmanxx wrote:
Oh yeah some A class players are finally moving to sc2
Next its Hiya !! HyuN, hiya is going to military
And spending time with the family. Gotta respect that.
Thanks for the translation. It's great to see an interview with a BW monster transferring over to SC2.
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On December 03 2011 03:20 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 02:49 Rostam wrote:On December 03 2011 02:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 03 2011 02:29 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 03 2011 02:19 yoonstar91 wrote:On December 03 2011 02:15 HolydaKing wrote:On December 03 2011 02:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
SC2 Terran is more complicated than SC1 Terran. Well said.
Thanks for the translation. I read it as bionic being more complicated than in SC1. Anyway, thanks for the interview! Was waiting for this. I think it really depends on the way you read. I think he's saying that Bionic is also more difficult to use. Therefore terran overall is more difficult in sc2. =) i think.. hehe Thanks though. I appreciate your comment! Thanks for reading guys! Considering how hard bw was in general, I find this a little hard to believe haha. Maybe it's different for a top-level pro. BW Terran is mechanically harder than SC2 Terran. But the Terran race was simpler in BW (for better or for worse). Difficulty and simplicity are two different things. How? BW Terran mechanically harder: no auto-mine rally point
But Terran was the only race with auto-mining in BW. Did you never build a refinery?
It was the casual easy-mode race.
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On December 03 2011 03:27 Shagg wrote:Instant fan because his nic is oGsFin  Also liking his playstyle!
Did not understand what you meant at all.... Then I saw what country you were from ^^
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he doesn't realize he's the reason that hiya no longer considers playing sc2?
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On December 03 2011 03:12 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 02:57 kYem wrote:
legitimately for 2 months after returning to Starcraft 2
oh please well known fact that he is playing it for around 8 months or so practicing legitimately for 2 months after returning to Starcraft 2I like how you leave out a pretty key word.
At least he'd make a good newspaper headline creator by butchering peoples quotes.
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I'm still supporting you Frogg! ^__^
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