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RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
December 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#801
On December 09 2011 03:28 windsupernova wrote:
I wish people just accepted that they need to play better to win. Thats the only thing that matters.

Blizzard should announce they won't patch anymore so that people stop being concerned on [How I would design the game] and start being concerned in [What do I need to improve to win]

All races need Micro, I don't even know why people say that P and Z just A move, yeah the micro may not be flashy, but it is definitively there.

Welp, I guess I am a happy player because now that T is a hard race I can feel cooler when I win ^_^

Completely agree, there was some dude that told me that it is not feasible to get better with terran without playing 10h a day like a korean haha.
TeH_CaRnAg3
Profile Joined March 2010
United States239 Posts
December 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#802
On December 09 2011 04:26 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 03:37 Hider wrote:
On December 09 2011 03:28 windsupernova wrote:
I wish people just accepted that they need to play better to win. Thats the only thing that matters.

Blizzard should announce they won't patch anymore so that people stop being concerned on [How I would design the game] and start being concerned in [What do I need to improve to win]

All races need Micro, I don't even know why people say that P and Z just A move, yeah the micro may not be flashy, but it is definitively there.

Welp, I guess I am a happy player because now that T is a hard race I can feel cooler when I win ^_^


Yes they sohuld have stopped patching the game when tanks did 60 dmg to everyything.


They should make Spawning pool cost 150 mins again ^_^

Stuff obviously will need to be patched if its proving too dominant, my point is that we as players should stop with the "Blizzard should solve all my problems" mentality.

I can't really blame Blizzard, it is their job to please their customers after all, but I just wish that every time a strategy is looking strong people wouldn't start thinking ways of getting it nerfed. Personally I loved the imbalances in BW, I loved how stuff actually looked so strong, I loved to know how a certain race would have to work for their win in some MUs. I guess I like working hard for my wins, I don't really care much how much the other guy has to work to beat me, I care more about how hard the game is for me and as long as I can beat the other dude by playing better I don't really care much about everything else

I love you for this response. Truly. I agree 110%. If the option if playing a perfect game is still there, that's all I care about. Working to figure out ways to win in hard as hell metagame times/map pools etc is what makes starcraft effin starcraft
I stole leonardo dicaprios ladder points
TeH_CaRnAg3
Profile Joined March 2010
United States239 Posts
December 08 2011 19:59 GMT
#803
On December 09 2011 04:35 RavenLoud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 03:28 windsupernova wrote:
I wish people just accepted that they need to play better to win. Thats the only thing that matters.

Blizzard should announce they won't patch anymore so that people stop being concerned on [How I would design the game] and start being concerned in [What do I need to improve to win]

All races need Micro, I don't even know why people say that P and Z just A move, yeah the micro may not be flashy, but it is definitively there.

Welp, I guess I am a happy player because now that T is a hard race I can feel cooler when I win ^_^

Completely agree, there was some dude that told me that it is not feasible to get better with terran without playing 10h a day like a korean haha.

Wow... some people man haha. It wasn't feasible to have lighting in your homes besides candles but edison didn't think so.
I stole leonardo dicaprios ladder points
Tingles
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia225 Posts
December 09 2011 02:15 GMT
#804
On December 09 2011 04:35 RavenLoud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 03:28 windsupernova wrote:
I wish people just accepted that they need to play better to win. Thats the only thing that matters.

Blizzard should announce they won't patch anymore so that people stop being concerned on [How I would design the game] and start being concerned in [What do I need to improve to win]

All races need Micro, I don't even know why people say that P and Z just A move, yeah the micro may not be flashy, but it is definitively there.

Welp, I guess I am a happy player because now that T is a hard race I can feel cooler when I win ^_^

Completely agree, there was some dude that told me that it is not feasible to get better with terran without playing 10h a day like a korean haha.


Yeah i know aye! Some korean guy told me it's not feasible to even try playing Protoss at the pro level if you don't put in 10 hours a day.
And then another guy walked up to me and said that it's not even remotely feasible to play Zerg at the pro level unless your putting in 10 hours a day.
It's hard for every race, Jesus. Fuck me this thread is awful for Terran QQ.
Just play the damn game. You lost cause you suck. STFU and go practice.
TeH_CaRnAg3
Profile Joined March 2010
United States239 Posts
December 09 2011 13:40 GMT
#805
On December 09 2011 11:15 Tingles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:35 RavenLoud wrote:
On December 09 2011 03:28 windsupernova wrote:
I wish people just accepted that they need to play better to win. Thats the only thing that matters.

Blizzard should announce they won't patch anymore so that people stop being concerned on [How I would design the game] and start being concerned in [What do I need to improve to win]

All races need Micro, I don't even know why people say that P and Z just A move, yeah the micro may not be flashy, but it is definitively there.

Welp, I guess I am a happy player because now that T is a hard race I can feel cooler when I win ^_^

Completely agree, there was some dude that told me that it is not feasible to get better with terran without playing 10h a day like a korean haha.


Yeah i know aye! Some korean guy told me it's not feasible to even try playing Protoss at the pro level if you don't put in 10 hours a day.
And then another guy walked up to me and said that it's not even remotely feasible to play Zerg at the pro level unless your putting in 10 hours a day.
It's hard for every race, Jesus. Fuck me this thread is awful for Terran QQ.
Just play the damn game. You lost cause you suck. STFU and go practice.

hell yes. Practice should be the only thing on a players mind after he loses.
I stole leonardo dicaprios ladder points
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#806
On December 08 2011 17:07 k10forgotten wrote:
Chargelots, blinkstalkers, sentries: Tier 1(.5)
stimmarines, stimmarauders: Tier 1(.5)

Also, about tiers:
...
+ Show Spoiler [PROTOSS] +
  • 1: Gateway
    • 1.5: Cybernetics Core
  • 2: Robotics Facility and Stargate
    • 2.5: Robotics Bay, Fleet Beacon, Dark Shrine and Templar Archives


Rather amusing how you just completely ignore the twilight council here.

Going by your "tier" listings the TC should be T2 (1 - Gateway, 1.5 - Cyber core, 2 - Twilight). Therefore Chargalots and Blink Stalkers are T2 by your definition, not 1.5.

Though frankly its a terrible way to measure things imo. Because it makes something like the Mothership or Carrier (technically T2.5 by your listing) "equivalent" to a Siege Tank. Which is just absurd.


Better way to do it is by costs in terms of both minerals/gas and time cost.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
December 21 2011 07:53 GMT
#807
Yeah Protoss seem a bit OP at the moment late game at least.
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