[D] TvP and defenders advantage - Page 20

PeachTea

United States149 Posts

December 01 2011 20:03 GMT

#381

I've played macro games with toss every single game i ever played with toss unless they cheese me. Basically the the fact is at diamond level, Terran is much harder to play at the matchup. It is undeniable. I get on protoss and smash master level terrans in the face because I can warp in 20 zealots just incase i have a resonably bad engagement and I will still survive. Then I macro up and a attack into the terran with storm, collosus, and chargelots and eventually wittle them down and roll them over. Also having to warp in to deal with harrass is pretty nice to. As terran, If i have a bad engagement I can easily get rolled over by a proxy pylon even if im up by 1 or 2 bases. Even 3 bases, If i have a really bad engagment because of 1 mistake that takes place over a split second ill get rolled over by an a attack. Protoss can not say the same because their mistakes have a lot more leeway at the diamond level. Just the way it is, not saying they are op but the micro mechanics they have given to zealots and collosus are pretty dam elementary. I only play macro games and the reason why terrans have a hard time is not because, lol herp derp you timing attacking don't work anymore learn to play past the 15 minute mark. Its cause we either micro correctly and come out on a decent engagement but at the same time we slip on macro. Not much you can do without better mechanics. So in reality its either micro correctly and slip on macro or don't slip on macro and come out on a bad engagement. The only solution is to get better, but being rolled over after being ahead in upgrades is really frustrating, esp when a protoss player can A attack to do that and just press the storm button. I've played terran since the beginning but its funny, i can play protoss in tvp and destroy people better than me at terran. Which doesn't seem right because my protoss is super sloppy but w.e. Its the way it is I guess.

Eraserhead

159 Posts

December 01 2011 20:08 GMT

#382

Let's not forget the Archon, another great a-moving aoe damage dealer.

TheAngelofDeath

United States2033 Posts

December 01 2011 20:34 GMT

#383

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/96_PuMa

Clearly all Terran players need to just transform into PuMa. All problems solved.

Alexstrasas

302 Posts

December 01 2011 23:05 GMT

#384

On December 02 2011 05:34 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/96_PuMa

Clearly all Terran players need to just transform into PuMa. All problems solved.

Isnt Puma known for using alot of 1-1-1 ? Coincidence?

Nymbul

United Kingdom127 Posts

December 02 2011 03:08 GMT

#385

On December 02 2011 05:08 Eraserhead wrote:
Let's not forget the Archon, another great a-moving aoe damage dealer.

Have terrans stopped making ghosts after the nerf?

Silver777

United States347 Posts

December 02 2011 03:16 GMT

#386

He found that upgrade that made Terran units immune to all psionic and plasma based damage...many refer to it as a Terran All-in or the "1-1-1". This elusive "1-1-1" includes anything from classic 1-1-1's to scv/marine all ins.

redbrain

Northern Ireland117 Posts

December 02 2011 21:17 GMT

#387

yeah look at any recent bo series terrans are insanity forced to use cheesy tactics to get a big lead and thats the _only_ way to play this matchup i am so frustrated at it and its making me play like dog shit recently TvP has become such a fucking joke.

The actual games are boring and really stupid and now i chesse everygame cause its entirely too pointless to play this matchup now its destoryed the experience of learning terran for me now so much i am switching back to zerg as my main race.

I swear to fuck thogh sentry drop FF ramp needs nerfed so much its retarded the warp prism is overpower the warp field ability needs to be a long upgrade because so much of warpin is so overpowered and having this to instantly have an army in my base for free and no risk its just not funny anymore

TvP is such a fucking joke ahh i am going insane

Evangelist

1246 Posts

December 11 2011 20:36 GMT

#388

I cannot win TvP for the life of me at the moment. What's killing me is three things:

1. I need THE perfect engagement, after pulling off THE perfect harassment. By which I mean I kill half his probes and then split my forces and get an ultimate concave.

2. He doesn't use upgrades. At all. In fact, sometimes, he doesn't even have to.

3. No defenders advantage at all. I can literally kill off all but three stalkers and an immortal, finish building another wave of units and a bunch of chargelots will finish me off.

EMP just doesn't cut it atm. Protoss Deathballs are often carrying 3 different types of AoE in addition to Storm and they're getting utterly ridiculous right now. By comparison, it feels like Protoss just macro up and kill me with their faster upgrades and faster and more powerful tech. I can't even hold space because siege tanks suck ass against Protoss.

Tried everything I can think of. Ravens, mass ghosts, nukes, banshees, even battlecruisers late game to even the odds, and that just resulted in an entire fleet of feedbacked BCs.

The number of Toss that I've played who I outexpanded, out macroed, out upgraded and then got slaughtered in one engagement and rolled over is getting stupid now.

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