EPT"StarCraft changed my life" - Page 3
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krowe
United States184 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On November 19 2011 23:44 wo1fwood wrote: There's so much good stuff in this article, but I really wish people would stop perpetuating the high APM exclusivity to young people only myth. In regards to this paragraph: + Show Spoiler + APM brings to mind the "mechanics" of a top-level athlete, those skills and actions drilled so deeply into a player over years that they become unconscious. It sets the pros apart from the wannabes, and the young from the old. While StarCraft’s chess-like strategy could be accessible to anyone at any age, the high-level APM is only physically possible for the low-latency young (high school age to mid-twenties). Even if old age doesn't get you, carpal tunnel will. StarCraft II has reduced some of the click burden, but it's still not exactly Windows Solitaire. Again, really good article overall though. starcraft needs higher-order cognition while playing an instrument will only require psycho-motoric skills. Its not the question of your hands but more the question of your brain, and your brain will react slower after adultery. Not impossibility i agree. 30 yo proffesional player who dedicates his life to it completely can easily play at 400 apm professionally .60yo with the same practice, i dont think. 30yo still has good hands to perform 400 apm (so is musician), but his reactions will be slower when he ages, musician won't follow the exact same drawback, as his movements will be purely memory-execution(hand) based, not reaction based. Im not an expert in music and in psychology so anyone can tell me if i am wrong. | ||
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1Focus
United States409 Posts
On November 19 2011 08:38 futurepaul wrote: Thank you guys! I'm surprised nobody's pointed out any glaring factual errors yet. Means a ton that this doesn't sound like total BS to you all, because I hate when a "mainstream" pub tries to explain a video game I like and just ends up sounding like a condescending jerk about it. I'm on here a lot, never posted before though. Guess I'll have to start! I loved the article hope you write more about starcraft 2 cuz i felt what u wrote was captivating and explained how much we trully love and enjoy this game....and gave this game and trully worthy article!!! Great read!! Thanks !!! | ||
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Kmonx
United States102 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
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Galactus52
United States36 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
On November 19 2011 08:38 futurepaul wrote: Thank you guys! I'm surprised nobody's pointed out any glaring factual errors yet. Means a ton that this doesn't sound like total BS to you all, because I hate when a "mainstream" pub tries to explain a video game I like and just ends up sounding like a condescending jerk about it. I'm on here a lot, never posted before though. Guess I'll have to start! As someone who has been playing/watching Starcraft since the alpha vidoes (and Played Brood War for like 2-3 years before that), I'd like to say you hit the nail on the head--not only is the article well written and intresting, but it was really down to earth, I think I could show this to my mom and she would get it (now that I think about it maybe I will :O). Also I love this quote: "my typical game cycle involves obsessing over a title, reading the reviews, buying a copy, playing for a few hours, and never touching the game again. StarCraft II broke that cycle, but it also threatened to break me." This is exactly what makes Starcraft so different then nearly everyother game--it's also what other gamers who don't have a game like starcraft fail to understand, they fail to see how it is much more then a game. EDIT: Sweet, hope whoever he is sticks around; maybe he'll even post on TL! | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
Seems like really good, I read a couple parts and skimmed etc. I'm so happy to see such a high quality (it has pics and vids and all) article being written! | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
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sTsCompleted
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scaban84
United States1080 Posts
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Nobodies
France1 Post
Someone needs to create a thread about this guy : http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1761636/DarK I was looking at the players of my division in master league, when suddenly i saw this guy with 2689 WINS for 5665 games !!! Ok look... Season 4 has started in October 24th and i saw in his profile that he stopped playing last week, so he did this in 3 weeks ! I counted it was an average of 260 games a day !!! That's physically impossible (except if he freeloses and in the recent historic i saw that he played 15 min+ games)!!! What's your explanation of this mess ?!!! User was warned for this post | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
good sh*t!! | ||
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nanoscorp
United States1237 Posts
On November 20 2011 06:21 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: As someone who has been playing/watching Starcraft since the alpha vidoes (and Played Brood War for like 2-3 years before that), I'd like to say you hit the nail on the head--not only is the article well written and intresting, but it was really down to earth, I think I could show this to my mom and she would get it (now that I think about it maybe I will :O). Also I love this quote: This is exactly what makes Starcraft so different then nearly everyother game--it's also what other gamers who don't have a game like starcraft fail to understand, they fail to see how it is much more then a game. EDIT: Sweet, hope whoever he is sticks around; maybe he'll even post on TL! yeah, that quoted comment jumped out at me too. I think it speaks for the article and the infectious enthusiasm so many people have for this wonderful game | ||
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StarStruck
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Deleted User 135096
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On November 20 2011 04:42 Modernist wrote: I don't really see it as a stretch for a piano player having to play at incredibly fast speeds at a moments notice, for an extended period of time, and not be as efficient or have the same endurance as a professional SC player. In regards to your quip, I hope you realize I was comparing 40+ yr old musicians to pro SC players, not 40+ SC players. On November 20 2011 05:13 bgx wrote: I'm not sure of your assertion regarding cognitive skill sets for musicians. Playing an instrument at the highest level requires much much more than just wrote regurgitation of physical actions, e.g. psycho-motoric, there's this whole, musicality issue/interpretation/adaptation that is conveniently not addressed. I'm not saying the mental requirements are the same for SC, which would be somewhat ridiculous, but you are devaluing musicians to a degree by saying that they just sit down and spit out a piece. Regarding your second part, this is exactly what I mean, and thank you for being clear about it. My problem is that the nomenclature of what is being discussed falls under physical abilities, when in fact he may actually be discussing two different issues (physical + cognitive) that closely intertwine. Closely examining cognitive abilities in regards to age might show what he was talking about, but I don't know enough on the subject to speak to it with any authority, but I guess that was my point, are we defining cognitive processing speed as a physical impairment, or a mental one? If it's in the both category you can probably see why just making a blanket statement can be misleading. ...oh, and adulthood, not adultery...that's, uh, kind of different | ||
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