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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:00 Fruscainte wrote: You're using a Third Party program to give yourself an unfair advantage. nope a beep tone every 30 seconds happens to me my favourite "music" while playing sc2 that cant be a bannable violation of the terms of use | ||
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Flummie
Netherlands417 Posts
On January 02 2012 03:39 isleyofthenorth wrote: nope a beep tone every 30 seconds happens to me my favourite "music" while playing sc2 that cant be a bannable violation of the terms of use Indeed  So if you play an audio file that gives a bleep every 30 sec its k but if its a program its cheating? Also note that starcraft 2 gives in game messages about when birthing extra larvae is finished.. don't see what is "unfair" about that either | ||
Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
On November 17 2011 11:57 jidolboy wrote: "Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience, including without limitation, mods that violate the terms of this License Agreement or the Terms of Use" .... It's not any of those listed above, as it simply notify you, and then you have to react yourself accordingly | ||
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Flexx
United States87 Posts
This is nothing more than a glorified stopwatch. Would you consider a player using a stopwatch on his desk, or having a friend coach his play to be cheating? I have unfortunately deleted the email, but I previously talked to a Blizzard rep at length about having someone coach your LADDER session's over a streaming/screen sharing program, and he explained to me very clearly that as long as it's you doing the work, and the 3rd party program (skype for instance) doesn't interact with the actual game, it is 100% inside of the TOS. Based on that information, I would logically conclude that a timer which does not interact with SC2 in any way, or execute any commands for you is 100% legal. | ||
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SoBeDragon
United States192 Posts
I'm a golfer, and there are many things that you can do on the practice range to help your mechanics that you can not do on the course. For example, to help ensure I have a clean follow through, sometimes I'll place 3 golf balls down in a row, and only try to hit the center one. Another example would be on the practice putting green. To help keep my shoulders steady, and my arms swinging like a pendulum, I will try to swing my putter head between 2 tee's that I stick in the ground. Another trick I've seen on the range is sticking a rod in the ground on an angle to help ensure your downswing is on the proper plane. There are DOZENS of these little things that you can do in a practice environment that can help correct negative behaviors, however, you can't use any of these aids once you hit the course. These little tools do not modify the game client, therefore they are not illegal or against the EULA. This would be the exact same thing has setting the stop watch on my cell phone to beep at me every 30 seconds. Now, when you move from a practice environment (ladder) to a competition (tournament) then these aids would not be allowed as they would provide an unfair advantage. Use these aids to help train your mechanics, but don't rely on them. | ||
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Fealthas
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On January 02 2012 05:33 Fealthas wrote: So now you have a program to remind you to do things...wow where will the world go. Yeah man, the worlds really goin now that this program was released. (-.-) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 17 2011 13:14 hitpoint wrote: Not even close. You're not using it to practice if you're using this on ladder, you're using it to get an unfair advantage. Using this practicing against comps or partners isn't cheating, using it on ladder absolutely is. Ladder IS practice. The whole difference of opinion here is that people are coming in with the mindset that ladder is EQUIVALENT to tournament play, which it absolutely is not. If it were, there's a hell of a lot of other stuff that people can do on ladder that shouldn't be done (like having someone else ladder on your account, or even having someone coach you while you're playing the game). | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
Edit: Question to u nay sayers... How is this any worse or better than lets say me paying money for coaching while i ladder a few games? I am obvoiusly cheating the ladder because im having another person that is much better than myself tell me what im doin wrong when i do it... but hey this stop watch is really bad right. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
But apparently it's cheating. I usually have my brother watch my games (over my shoulder) and try to correct mistakes I make while laddering... But I guess I'll stop now because it's cheating. I sometimes set a timer when I cook food cause I'm busy with other stuff... But I guess that's cheating so I'll just have to stop... Plenty of things are "cheating" in a professional competition, are just fine in a "scrimmage" (which is what I see ladder as). | ||
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MassacrisM
United Kingdom149 Posts
Think about how pathetic you must be if you have to use something to benefit yourself, just to win in an online game. While your e-peen might get bigger and you get e-fame and shit like that, you're complete crap in reality and you'll do like shit offline tournaments where it matters. | ||
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tx.zyclon
United States145 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On January 06 2012 06:05 MassacrisM wrote: This might not be considered cheating, but it definitely gives you an unfair advantage over your opponent and most importantly, you don't actually get better if you use it. It clearly isn't cheating, any more than having a buddy remind you is. And actually, thousands of dollars are payed out every month so that people can have a coach tell them to hit their larva inject. It is a perfectly FAIR advantage that you have gained over your opponent, and if you use it correctly, it will probably help you get better. Think about how pathetic you must be if you have to use something to benefit yourself, just to win in an online game. While your e-peen might get bigger and you get e-fame and shit like that, you're complete crap in reality and you'll do like shit offline tournaments where it matters. Honestly, I don't see how you could possibly come to that conclusion unless you seriously misunderstood the OP. Like seriously misunderstood it. | ||
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zergrushkekeke
Australia241 Posts
There was a website out there that did the same thing http://injectlarvae.com/ I made a batch file that would bring up and overlay on where I had my hatcheries hotkeyed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243799. Every time someone shows that a tool can be used to help with timings half the crowd flips out and starts going red in the face arguing that you should play every ladder game of starcraft2 in a sealed off booth with you coach on the other side of the double plated glass. And every time the amount of games everyone collectively would use the tool would be easily under 1000. Good luck with the game design, you probably hear it a lot but you should move a game like that to the emerging market of mobile apps. | ||
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gonzales88
Netherlands2 Posts
That is the same thing. | ||
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swarley91
Germany32 Posts
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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