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Animism
Switzerland130 Posts
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Lw247_
38 Posts
On January 02 2012 01:27 di3alot wrote: yeah right because 99% of us are going to play in the gsl wtf dude ninety fucking nine percent in this forum are not even gonna play in a online tournament and when that would be something for 5 ducks or something and even with this tool a bronze will be still a bronze player. you could just have the same shit on a winamp player and just press play on the keyboard when you inject tadaaaaaaaaaaa magic...wooohoooo.... stop being so ridiculous people Noli's point being that it's still cheating, so taking his gsl comment so literal is actually beyond stupid. a bronze player (even though the leagues are no reference to skill) might be able to know the timings out of his/her head but when they get into a battle they might forget about such things which is actually a big deal, bigger than you might actually realise yourself but with a timer that tells you when you can inject again they get reminded of those things & in the long run it would make a difference in their performance and don't even try to deny this coz if you do you're just full of it. | ||
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di3alot
172 Posts
On January 02 2012 01:31 Lw247_ wrote: Noli's point being that it's still cheating, so taking his gsl comment so literal is actually beyond stupid. and my point is that this is not cheating. and taking my gsl comment so literal about his gsl comment is beyond beyond stupid? | ||
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Lw247_
38 Posts
On January 02 2012 01:36 di3alot wrote: and my point is that this is not cheating. and taking my gsl comment so literal about his gsl comment is beyond beyond stupid? so you're basicly just full of it & not capable to reason with nor to inform you about what this program is actually capable of... So basicly there's no point in talking to you so have fun xx and actually, trying to say that you didn't take his comment too literal really shows in the way you replied.. fuck my life, you're actually one of the biggest simpletons i've ever seen on this website. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On January 02 2012 01:36 di3alot wrote: and my point is that this is not cheating. and taking my gsl comment so literal about his gsl comment is beyond beyond stupid? That's just stupid. | ||
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Lw247_
38 Posts
viva la france! *high five* at least someone who's able to keep up, sir, i commend you. | ||
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di3alot
172 Posts
On January 02 2012 01:37 Lw247_ wrote: so you're basicly just full of it & not capable to reason with nor to inform you about what this program is actually capable of... So basicly there's no point in talking to you so have fun xx but you still do it...saying im full of it and there is no point in talking to me is still talking. with the reason/point to insult me or disagree in a douchebaggery behavior trying to make someone else look stupid does not make you smarter or gives your piont any value stop being such a douche...have fun xx | ||
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badboymav
Australia74 Posts
It is identical to having a friend watching you play and telling you when to inject. It is a practice tool developed by the OP giving back to this community. It is aimed at the bronze - masters players who may still need to improve their mental timings for injects. It is up to tournaments to allow this or not, but it is highly unlikely players of that caliber would even need it. So please stop arguing about how ethical you think it may or may not be, I would much prefer to hear if any Zergs have used this yet and what their thoughts are, and if it helping them to improve. I am sure the OP would also appreciate some nice feedback for the effort he put in. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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azzu
Germany141 Posts
However, it's very unlikely that you can practice with the tool, and get better without it. The human mind, as proven by studies, can not consistently produce a rhythm that has more than a few seconds between it's beats. You can "prove" this by yourself by trying to do a 10-second rhythm without counting the seconds or counting anything in between. It's just not possible. Now I may suspect a 40-second rhythm is just as impossible. You will obviously play better with the tool. But that's just logical. It will however not help you improve your play without the tool. Now I'm open to being proved wrong, but I think the usage of this tool for "practice" reasons is just nonsense. If you use it for this reason, you just lie to yourself and use the tool to just be better than you really are, because losing sucks, and you lose less with it (or gain a higher rank with it) | ||
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Apolex
Canada103 Posts
cheating is when you are going into the game with an unfair advantage. It doesn't matter if this interacts with the SC2 client or not, it's helping you inject and reminding you to. There are always maphacks out there that blizzard won't detect, maphacking software is always ahead of blizzard, it doesn't make it right to use. Depending on what league you are in, the more advantageous this timer becomes, a PLatnium player who might have missed injects by 10 seconds every round, now injects 5 seconds early, over a period of 5 minutes, you have 2 - 3 full cycle of larva extra to use. Personally I believe, having a bigger army is much better then seeing what the other guy is doing. | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
Its highly unlikely any tourny would allow software like this, and as far as ladder goes all that matters is what blizz says. I personally think this software is stupid and wouldnt use it, but whether its cheating or not isnt up to us, its up to blizzard and tournament hosts. | ||
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
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Trealador
United States207 Posts
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Apolex
Canada103 Posts
On January 02 2012 02:24 Equity213 wrote: Blizzard created this game and its rules and thus they are the only ones in any position to say what is cheating and what isnt. Likewise the host of a tournament creates its rules and gets to decide what is cheating in that environment. Its highly unlikely any tourny would allow software like this, and as far as ladder goes all that matters is what blizz says. I personally think this software is stupid and wouldnt use it, but whether its cheating or not isnt up to us, its up to blizzard and tournament hosts. if you bring notes to a test and the teacher doesn't say anything even though you know she saw you, is it considered cheating? Blizzard is not going to ban this because it is UNDETECTABLE. If they make an issue about it, the greater population will start using it and blizzard CANNOT stop them. There's no way scanning your computer for files unrelated to sc2 is legal lol , that's the only way to detect this. | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
On January 02 2012 02:32 Apolex wrote: if you bring notes to a test and the teacher doesn't say anything even though you know she saw you, is it considered cheating? Blizzard is not going to ban this because it is UNDETECTABLE. If they make an issue about it, the greater population will start using it and blizzard CANNOT stop them. There's no way scanning your computer for files unrelated to sc2 is legal lol , that's the only way to detect this. So if I steal from 7-11 but I dont get caught, is that considered stealing? Come on. Getting caught has nothing to do with it. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
Consent to Monitor. WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 2. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, THE GAME MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
On January 02 2012 02:32 Apolex wrote: Blizzard is not going to ban this because it is UNDETECTABLE. If they make an issue about it, the greater population will start using it and blizzard CANNOT stop them. There's no way scanning your computer for files unrelated to sc2 is legal lol , that's the only way to detect this. If it's running while you are playing SC2 they don't have to scan your computer for files, only your RAM. Which, if you read the EULA, you agreed that they may do when you installed the game. That's exactly what they do to detect all banned third-party software, as well. So, no, it's not undetectable. If Blizzard wanted to ban people for it, they could easily do so. I don't imagine they would care to do so, however, since it doesn't accomplish anything you couldn't do with a stopwatch or another human being looking over your shoulder. | ||
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cactusjack914
United States183 Posts
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UniversalMind
United States326 Posts
you want to get better at these mechanics being reminded by something outside of the game client will only hinder progress. | ||
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