EPTCoca forfeits Code S due to ESV weekly scandal - Page 53
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blackbrrd
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Rekrul
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FuRong
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It may seem like an overreaction, but in a post-Savior world it's extra important that tournament admins come down like a hammer on any kind of collusion, even if it doesn't seem so serious. | ||
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m0ck
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Fubi
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On November 15 2011 18:12 samaNo4 wrote: You can. You win the weekly then go to the monthly finals and if you win there you have your code A spot. No, please read through this thread, some of the earlier posts contains proofs. It has been confirmed by Mr.Chae that THIS particular tournament where the incident happened does NOT have a code A spot. Talks are still in place between the two companies and that a future Code A seed can potentially take place in later tournaments next year. But as far as THIS particular tournament goes, there was no Code A spot and the players and coaches knew that ahead of time. | ||
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Hrrrrm
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darunia
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
The Fucking Fuck This is a massive overreaction... =/ | ||
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KDN
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Kazuki
Netherlands121 Posts
SlayerS fighting! | ||
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
On November 15 2011 18:33 Rekrul wrote: lol I was expecting you. | ||
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theBALLS
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UnholyRai
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
On November 15 2011 18:32 blackbrrd wrote: I think this is an overreaction, it is obvious neither of them was taking this match seriously. Give them a fine or something, don't stop them from playing. It would have been another matter if it was something they planned and tried to hide, but it obviously was a spur of the moment situation and they didn't try to hide it. That in itself is a problem. The whole point of being able to be sponsored is because you display the most amazing ability in an activity that patrons patronise you in lodging/funds/etc. That'll you play your best, regardless of reward/prestige/honour. May the best man win. This stunt by Byun and Coca was a farce of the above statement. I mean who needs ability when you got friends who'll throw matches for you? Stupid moves, became more severe because it was done in plain sight. It was right for SlayerS to lose all faith in CoCa. If he can throw a match because of a low prize online tournament for an old friend, what does it mean when it comes to major money tournaments with "offers" from an old friend? tl;dr If either player can't even have integrity in small things, what about in big things? Boxer's reason for having CoCa withdraw from Code S was likely because of the above logic. Any coach/owner/manager expects their employees to do the best of their ability they were hired for. Such obvious disregard for the sponsors, the team and the organisers by throwing a match in plain sight speaks volumes. They need to wake the f*ck up, as pros, they have an obligation, duty and responsibility to give their best in any given event. That is sportsmanship. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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John Madden
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On November 15 2011 18:40 Asha` wrote: What The Fucking Fuck This is a massive overreaction... =/ No it's absolutely disgraceful. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On November 15 2011 18:44 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: That in itself is a problem. The whole point of being able to be sponsored is because you display the most amazing ability in an activity that patrons patronise you in lodging/funds/etc. That'll you play your best, regardless of reward/prestige/honour. May the best man win. This stunt by Byun and Coca was a farce of the above statement. I mean who needs ability when you got friends who'll throw matches for you? Stupid moves, became more severe because it was done in plain sight. It was right for SlayerS to lose all faith in CoCa. If he can throw a match because of a low prize online tournament for an old friend, what does it mean when it comes to major money tournaments with "offers" from an old friend? tl;dr If either player can't even have integrity in small things, what about in big things? Your tl;dr logic is opposite of what I would think is normal. People are more hesitant to steal diamonds than to steal an apple. Regardless, although it may seem like the punishments are an over reaction, I think it's necessary since this is the first case of anything that resemebles match-fixing in SC2, and was necessary... | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1732 Posts
On November 15 2011 17:58 figq wrote: They shouldn't have submitted the replays, and instead just state that Coca forfeits, and there would have been no trouble, because official forfeits are accepted by everyone. But they submitted them, and most of us were well satisfied to see their play overall. Much better than no games. If only there was some warning note, like: "Coca forfeits, but if you like you can cast these games just for build content value". Forfeiting isn't cheating. The insanity is the opposite -- trying to punish and coerce people into never forfeiting. Sorry, but friendship doesn't kill esports. Way to support matchfixing. Take it a bit more seriously ffs. It makes a travesty of competition when you have one player just saying "meh, this competition is irrelevant so I'm going to help you cheat, make the fans feel stupid for acting like what they love to watch is irrelevant, and also for supporting me in the first place". Friendship doesn't kill esports? Honestly, some meme isn't going to make your point more valid. You know what friendship is in a sport? Ever played for a sports team? You are told to get out on the field and play to win just as hard as ever. Don't ever act like someone is your friend when you're playing against them- not until after the match is done. That's just how professional sport works, otherwise it's frankly pointless. This is no different. | ||
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XRaDiiX
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bLah.
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