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Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
November 15 2011 09:07 GMT
#1001
i think this is an appropiate punishment, even if it seems harsh in the specific case SC2 is still young and HAVE to prove to sponsors and the community that it takes matters lika this seriously. it could ruin e-sports totally if the general public gets the picture of rigged games being common
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
November 15 2011 09:08 GMT
#1002
So the lesson is play badly when you want your team mate to win, rather than play well and then leave.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
November 15 2011 09:08 GMT
#1003
Lol? How the fuck is this match fixing exactly? It's just two friends having a good time and messing around in some random online cup, people drop out all the time because they have better things to do. Yeah sure it sucks, yeah sure it might not be the coolest thing for the people watching.

But It's not like they agreed to throw an MLG or a GSL match beforehand. People need to calm down a bit and stop overreacting, he now forfeits his Code S spot and gets kicked out of the SlayerS house? What a joke.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
November 15 2011 09:08 GMT
#1004
On November 15 2011 18:03 crawlingchaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:00 hoivenmayven wrote:
[image loading]

"I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry."

Why Byunnn? Why?

Awww, how can anyone be mad at a guy with that avatar? ^_^

Yeah it's too cute


I'm actually disgusted at the few people who suggested that they take away his puppy.
Gijian
Profile Joined February 2011
United States273 Posts
November 15 2011 09:09 GMT
#1005
On November 15 2011 18:04 Heavenly wrote:
Out of curiosity, would people actually care as much if Coca just randomly forfeited instead of playing it out and said he had other stuff to do?


Wording and timing is crucial. If he said that, this incident wouldn't even happen. It's like someone saying "GL HF" at beginning of the match vs someone who said "GL HF" after placing a bunker next to a zerg hatchery.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 15 2011 09:10 GMT
#1006
On November 15 2011 17:58 figq wrote:
They shouldn't have submitted the replays, and instead just state that Coca forfeits, and there would have been no trouble, because official forfeits are accepted by everyone.

But they submitted them, and most of us were well satisfied to see their play overall. Much better than no games. If only there was some warning note, like: "Coca forfeits, but if you like you can cast these games just for build content value".

Forfeiting isn't cheating. The insanity is the opposite -- trying to punish and coerce people into never forfeiting. Sorry, but friendship doesn't kill esports.


If you read the chat it is clearly match fixing. Do you really want another savior incident in sc2? This is no where near as big but it could be just the beginning. I think the correct actions were taken.
Evil Geniuses<3
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
November 15 2011 09:10 GMT
#1007
It's kind of laughable how stupid they are.

I mean really, this is like The Darwin Awards: Starcraft Edition. Natural selection killed their sc2 careers.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 09:11:14
November 15 2011 09:10 GMT
#1008
Fucking idiots.

Do people not realise that this happens all the time in minor tournaments though?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
samaNo4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Spain245 Posts
November 15 2011 09:12 GMT
#1009
On November 15 2011 18:06 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:03 SevenShots wrote:
This honestly sucks...
Well the problem is that you can win a code A spot in this tournament.
So i understand the upset...

But i don't think they really thought about this.

For like the 2308432th time in this thread, you CAN NOT win code A spot in this tournament.


You can. You win the weekly then go to the monthly finals and if you win there you have your code A spot.
And then do you know what happens all of a sudden? Trumpets!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 15 2011 09:12 GMT
#1010
On November 15 2011 18:10 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Fucking idiots.

Do people not realise that this happens all the time in minor tournaments though?


It may happen in tournaments all the time but I'm glad at least SOMEONE is doing something about it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
November 15 2011 09:12 GMT
#1011
On November 15 2011 18:06 Hnnngg wrote:
I remember when White-Ra match-fixed in the open bracket at MLG.

Sad stuff, to see these progamers fall from their pedestals of crowning human achievement and sully their souls with promises of money and whores.

Or not.


That wasn't match fixing though? His opponent voluntarily gave up two games, with no influence from White-Ra at all.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
November 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#1012
On November 15 2011 18:12 samaNo4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:06 Fubi wrote:
On November 15 2011 18:03 SevenShots wrote:
This honestly sucks...
Well the problem is that you can win a code A spot in this tournament.
So i understand the upset...

But i don't think they really thought about this.

For like the 2308432th time in this thread, you CAN NOT win code A spot in this tournament.


You can. You win the weekly then go to the monthly finals and if you win there you have your code A spot.

Except this month nothing has been finalized yet. It could grant a Code A spot, but it also could not if the GSL format changes again after feedback from all the teams after this season and there is no longer room for Code A seeds.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
November 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#1013
On November 15 2011 18:06 Hnnngg wrote:
I remember when White-Ra match-fixed in the open bracket at MLG.

Sad stuff, to see these progamers fall from their pedestals of crowning human achievement and sully their souls with promises of money and whores.

Or not.


What?
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
November 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#1014
Wait does this mean Coca gets auto 4th place in his group or that he won't be playing anymore in this season's GSL?
Diader
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States232 Posts
November 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#1015
On November 15 2011 18:08 Terminal wrote:
Lol? How the fuck is this match fixing exactly? It's just two friends having a good time and messing around in some random online cup, people drop out all the time because they have better things to do. Yeah sure it sucks, yeah sure it might not be the coolest thing for the people watching.

But It's not like they agreed to throw an MLG or a GSL match beforehand. People need to calm down a bit and stop overreacting, he now forfeits his Code S spot and gets kicked out of the SlayerS house? What a joke.


QFT.

And honestly, has it even been said if this was pre-meditated? What if Byun was just saying "lol leave dude" in chat jokingly, and Coca just figured it would be fun to play a deciding game in a small-time tournament against his friend? Byun deserved to be kicked out of that tournament maybe, but for both of them to be shunned by the entire esports community? Really?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 15 2011 09:15 GMT
#1016
On November 15 2011 18:12 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 18:10 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Fucking idiots.

Do people not realise that this happens all the time in minor tournaments though?


It may happen in tournaments all the time but I'm glad at least SOMEONE is doing something about it.

Sure.

Realistically though, all this does is make players a little less stupid in how they do it though. The only way to make pros not cheat is to make it impossible for them to cheat. Relying on their good nature when there's so much money and pride on the line simply doesn't work.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ambrosiaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore333 Posts
November 15 2011 09:16 GMT
#1017
Wtf im so sad right now i absolutely adored coca
Latchy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia121 Posts
November 15 2011 09:16 GMT
#1018
OP is correct, Tastosis just confirmed on GSL.

Reason is for match fixing
"Screw with Nestea and you catch a Nes.T.D" - Tasteless
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 09:17:37
November 15 2011 09:17 GMT
#1019
On November 15 2011 18:10 3clipse wrote:
It's kind of laughable how stupid they are.

I mean really, this is like The Darwin Awards: Starcraft Edition. Natural selection killed their sc2 careers.


Yeah, they are actually lucky that they are this stupid (not in a personal way), because getting caught for something like this and being punished for this is better than getting away with it over and over until they are caught in the real deal.
This is like a wakeup call to them. (and many other players aswell i guess)
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
November 15 2011 09:17 GMT
#1020
Why though does he have to forfeit his Code S spot and leav slayers team house :S He was one of the top 3 or 4 zergs in the world! Huge loss, and I was a big fan before this "scandle"
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