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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 06:23:33
October 26 2011 06:22 GMT
#1341
omg this is SO AWESOME

The EMP nerf will be a dream come true, and I hope it will help fix ghosts for late game TvP. Shields cost reduction is also nice given how underused they were. The ground weapons/armor cost reduction I really didn't expect, nor am I sure they are actually needed, but I doubt it will make a big difference. 75/75 aint that much more/less for 2/2, but I'm not gonna complain when Blizz decides to throw in unexpected buffs to my main race
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 26 2011 06:22 GMT
#1342
Rofl what a nonsense. Ok I understand plasma shields cost reduced but attack and armor? Protoss always get's fastest upgrades in the game due to chrono and now cost is reduced?! Even if as a zerg I am rushing for upgrades toss is always ahead so wtf..
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 26 2011 06:22 GMT
#1343
On October 26 2011 14:46 BarbieHsu wrote:
I think this is a pretty good boost. Who was that player who brought back double forge upgrades? Nasty stuff. Sase?

Now, less cost, more units, more deadly.

Although saying this particular upgrade was needed is a stretch.

Didn't protoss players not hate EMP radius as much as casting range?

That would be CreatorPrime.
Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
October 26 2011 06:23 GMT
#1344
I am rofling at the emp change..Wow it kinda makes a lot of difference in the total area covered..!! and I like it!! Also toss upgrades to cost less... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah!! :D

I am excited.. although i might switch to terran pretty soon.
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
October 26 2011 06:24 GMT
#1345
So no change for zerg at all?

I guess we're doing a-okay.

emp radius change is nice though.
If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#1346
On October 26 2011 14:02 ePdeLay wrote:
Theres absolutely no reason to reduce the cost of attack and armor, toss get the fastest upgrades with chrono boost


There is absolutetly no reason to make that comparison. Why does it matter if one race get their upgrades faster? They are different races, have different upgrades, it's really irrelevant if the other races get their upgrades quicker or slower if it leads to a more balanced game play. I'm not saying it will but I assume that's what Blizzard is going for.
fanvadmeck
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#1347
On October 26 2011 14:46 BarbieHsu wrote:
I think this is a pretty good boost. Who was that player who brought back double forge upgrades? Nasty stuff. Sase?

Now, less cost, more units, more deadly.

Although saying this particular upgrade was needed is a stretch.

Didn't protoss players not hate EMP radius as much as casting range?


It was CreatorPrime.WE

Ontopic... I think those upgrades wont stay except for the shield. Nice emp change though : )
| Startale | Quantic | Liquid FTW!
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#1348
Omg they're actually just straight up helping shitty Protoss! A miracle has occurred!

Especially love the shield upgrades since there's potential there but it was never used 'cause just too darned expensive.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 26 2011 06:26 GMT
#1349
On October 26 2011 15:22 Alpina wrote:
Rofl what a nonsense. Ok I understand plasma shields cost reduced but attack and armor? Protoss always get's fastest upgrades in the game due to chrono and now cost is reduced?! Even if as a zerg I am rushing for upgrades toss is always ahead so wtf..


It's not a competition in upgrades. Are you saying you can't win games if protoss is ahead in upgrades?
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
October 26 2011 06:26 GMT
#1350
changes sound good, i like them! also the emp change, let's see how it will affect endgame PvT
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 06:27:41
October 26 2011 06:27 GMT
#1351
On October 26 2011 15:26 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 15:22 Alpina wrote:
Rofl what a nonsense. Ok I understand plasma shields cost reduced but attack and armor? Protoss always get's fastest upgrades in the game due to chrono and now cost is reduced?! Even if as a zerg I am rushing for upgrades toss is always ahead so wtf..


It's not a competition in upgrades. Are you saying you can't win games if protoss is ahead in upgrades?


Yes man upgrades often decides game outcome. Toss is always ahead of zerg in upgrades and now they will have the deadly 3 attack even faster.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
October 26 2011 06:27 GMT
#1352
New map pool EMP nerf.... I <3 blizzard.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
DrZz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania70 Posts
October 26 2011 06:27 GMT
#1353
Awesome!!!!
Evolve, and let the chips fall where they may
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 26 2011 06:29 GMT
#1354
Dustin Browder and David Kim semi-announced these changes in Blizzcon SC2 Multiplayer Panel already, I don't understand why ppl are so suprised...
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
October 26 2011 06:30 GMT
#1355
blizzard is retarded

why would they reduce toss armor/weap upgrades..
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 26 2011 06:30 GMT
#1356
On October 26 2011 15:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 14:46 BarbieHsu wrote:
I think this is a pretty good boost. Who was that player who brought back double forge upgrades? Nasty stuff. Sase?

Now, less cost, more units, more deadly.

Although saying this particular upgrade was needed is a stretch.

Didn't protoss players not hate EMP radius as much as casting range?

That would be CreatorPrime.

Tyler.

"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 26 2011 06:30 GMT
#1357
On October 26 2011 15:27 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 15:26 nam nam wrote:
On October 26 2011 15:22 Alpina wrote:
Rofl what a nonsense. Ok I understand plasma shields cost reduced but attack and armor? Protoss always get's fastest upgrades in the game due to chrono and now cost is reduced?! Even if as a zerg I am rushing for upgrades toss is always ahead so wtf..


It's not a competition in upgrades. Are you saying you can't win games if protoss is ahead in upgrades?


Yes man upgrades often decides game outcome. Toss is always ahead of zerg in upgrades and now they will have the deadly 3 attack even faster.

Well, Protoss units are supposed to be better, I guess they feel upgrades are part of that.

I don't think the races needed to have equal upgrade capabilities - the game is balanced around myriad other things.
Runaground
Profile Joined February 2010
Moldova36 Posts
October 26 2011 06:31 GMT
#1358
Oh my god, that's a terrible change.. EMP-ing zealots has been already very difficult due to their charge and mass, not it has become even worse. Now area has been reduced from 12 to 7, it's HUGE nerf. I have no idea how much ghosts you should have to successfully and fast EMP the toss army.

Upgrade change cost is unbelievable, such a big cost reduce. In any case toss gets his upgrades maxed much faster than terran does, so what's the point?
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 26 2011 06:32 GMT
#1359
On October 26 2011 15:24 DeadCell wrote:
So no change for zerg at all?

I guess we're doing a-okay.

emp radius change is nice though.

Its a really nice change...will help just a little bit but still....any little bit will help P.
I am surprised that snipe didn't get nerf as well.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
October 26 2011 06:35 GMT
#1360
Thhhaaaannnkkk yyouuuuu!!...At last some protoss buffs. Finally double forge is gonna be epic!
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