On May 17 2012 03:52 Ghad wrote: SC2 fucking cost 300 NOK when it was released, that is about 37 EUR and 50 USD. Pretty much the cheapest pc game to be launched in years, exactly half of what pc games normally costs.
I have 0% problems with shelling out for HOTS.
That's how much games cost in Norway?
I can pick up a PC game for £20 in UK
Interestingly enough, most "big" games to come costs around 100$ when theyre recently released. 599 NOK. I was actually shocked to see how cheap starcraft 2 was when it came out :D
On May 17 2012 03:21 isneakattack wrote: TaeTae you obviously have never created a video game, model, animation, or anything creative. For you to say that Blizzard employees are not working hard is ridiculous, they work very hard on a game that is played by millions.
Wrong you are. And no they aren't working hard. HOTS was originally set for a 2011 release... we only just saw shit bad footage at blizzcon 2011. They had units that were so broken its ridiculous, and they said themselves campaign wasn't even started. To originally have it releasing for 2011, you really would question what they were doing for 2 years prior to that date.
Again, you make very strong claims but provide no evidence or sources for it. It's a weird way to argue i think. And although we can question it, we don't know what they were doing for those 2 years, as you earlier seemed to know.
Oh great, another set of broken units introduced for no good reason other than to have games end quicker so the kiddies can earn portraits.
Yeah this is going to be fun, along with learning new unit hotkeys again... wonder how the Korean scene will react to this money grab after 10 years of perfecting the art of Brood War without major changes.
On May 17 2012 04:05 cameler wrote: Oh great, another set of broken units introduced for no good reason other than to have games end quicker so the kiddies can earn portraits.
Yeah this is going to be fun, along with learning new unit hotkeys again... wonder how the Korean scene will react to this money grab after 10 years of perfecting the art of Brood War without major changes.
Umm really, you would rather not have an expansion, and the expo also has a campaign. Really dont get why you think this expo sucks.
On May 17 2012 04:05 cameler wrote: Oh great, another set of broken units introduced for no good reason other than to have games end quicker so the kiddies can earn portraits.
Yeah this is going to be fun, along with learning new unit hotkeys again... wonder how the Korean scene will react to this money grab after 10 years of perfecting the art of Brood War without major changes.
Ummm wait... What?? I don't see how adding new units to the game so that we have new strats is called a money grab. From this PoV, BW was a money grab for sc1? Did you play the lastest beta version of HoTS before calling units broken? I see this expansion the same way as BW when it was released, it will change the game so it can be more fun to play.
On May 17 2012 03:52 Ghad wrote: SC2 fucking cost 300 NOK when it was released, that is about 37 EUR and 50 USD. Pretty much the cheapest pc game to be launched in years, exactly half of what pc games normally costs.
I have 0% problems with shelling out for HOTS.
That's how much games cost in Norway?
I can pick up a PC game for £20 in UK
Interestingly enough, most "big" games to come costs around 100$ when theyre recently released. 599 NOK. I was actually shocked to see how cheap starcraft 2 was when it came out :D
On May 17 2012 03:21 isneakattack wrote: TaeTae you obviously have never created a video game, model, animation, or anything creative. For you to say that Blizzard employees are not working hard is ridiculous, they work very hard on a game that is played by millions.
Wrong you are. And no they aren't working hard. HOTS was originally set for a 2011 release... we only just saw shit bad footage at blizzcon 2011. They had units that were so broken its ridiculous, and they said themselves campaign wasn't even started. To originally have it releasing for 2011, you really would question what they were doing for 2 years prior to that date.
Again, you make very strong claims but provide no evidence or sources for it. It's a weird way to argue i think. And although we can question it, we don't know what they were doing for those 2 years, as you earlier seemed to know.
My claims weren't strong at all - they didn't need to be. What have those people at blizzard done(in the sc2 department) from WoL release until now?
On May 17 2012 02:49 TaeTae wrote: Won't be buying if it's the same price as original game. It's not justifiable to make me wait this long for what I suspect will be mediocre because we all know blizzard employees spend half the day bumming each other to actually put work into a game.
Order now, and Amazon will honor the $39.99 price even if it rises. I believe they will lower the price as well if it ends lower. The chances of it not being $39.99 now that you can pre-order are basically zero.
I like your spirit though, I bet you've never lost a game that it was your fault either.
why is it 40dollars? it should be 29.99 this is and expo, not a brand new game tho
On May 17 2012 03:52 Ghad wrote: SC2 fucking cost 300 NOK when it was released, that is about 37 EUR and 50 USD. Pretty much the cheapest pc game to be launched in years, exactly half of what pc games normally costs.
I have 0% problems with shelling out for HOTS.
That's how much games cost in Norway?
I can pick up a PC game for £20 in UK
Interestingly enough, most "big" games to come costs around 100$ when theyre recently released. 599 NOK. I was actually shocked to see how cheap starcraft 2 was when it came out :D
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On May 17 2012 03:56 TaeTae wrote:
On May 17 2012 03:21 isneakattack wrote: TaeTae you obviously have never created a video game, model, animation, or anything creative. For you to say that Blizzard employees are not working hard is ridiculous, they work very hard on a game that is played by millions.
Wrong you are. And no they aren't working hard. HOTS was originally set for a 2011 release... we only just saw shit bad footage at blizzcon 2011. They had units that were so broken its ridiculous, and they said themselves campaign wasn't even started. To originally have it releasing for 2011, you really would question what they were doing for 2 years prior to that date.
Again, you make very strong claims but provide no evidence or sources for it. It's a weird way to argue i think. And although we can question it, we don't know what they were doing for those 2 years, as you earlier seemed to know.
My claims weren't strong at all - they didn't need to be. What have those people at blizzard done(in the sc2 department) from WoL release until now?
well, they have done all that they have shown (search blizzcon hots on youtube :D) and probably a lot more. I don't know, but i don't discredit them with my own personal opinion. Why would you think that they haven't worked hard when you have nothing to back it up.
On May 17 2012 02:49 TaeTae wrote: Won't be buying if it's the same price as original game. It's not justifiable to make me wait this long for what I suspect will be mediocre because we all know blizzard employees spend half the day bumming each other to actually put work into a game.
Order now, and Amazon will honor the $39.99 price even if it rises. I believe they will lower the price as well if it ends lower. The chances of it not being $39.99 now that you can pre-order are basically zero.
I like your spirit though, I bet you've never lost a game that it was your fault either.
why is it 40dollars? it should be 29.99 this is and expo, not a brand new game tho
it is a brand new game, you won't need WoL to play it, it will have a full campaign and it's own multiplayer complete with custom maps and a new world editor. $40 is relatively cheap for a FULL game, the only reason why it's priced lower than WoL is because it isn't introducing an entire set of units but only 2-3 for each race. Still, if activision had any say in this they could easily charge us all $60 because it's virtually brand new.
On May 17 2012 03:52 Ghad wrote: SC2 fucking cost 300 NOK when it was released, that is about 37 EUR and 50 USD. Pretty much the cheapest pc game to be launched in years, exactly half of what pc games normally costs.
I have 0% problems with shelling out for HOTS.
That's how much games cost in Norway?
I can pick up a PC game for £20 in UK
Interestingly enough, most "big" games to come costs around 100$ when theyre recently released. 599 NOK. I was actually shocked to see how cheap starcraft 2 was when it came out :D
EDIT:
On May 17 2012 03:56 TaeTae wrote:
On May 17 2012 03:21 isneakattack wrote: TaeTae you obviously have never created a video game, model, animation, or anything creative. For you to say that Blizzard employees are not working hard is ridiculous, they work very hard on a game that is played by millions.
Wrong you are. And no they aren't working hard. HOTS was originally set for a 2011 release... we only just saw shit bad footage at blizzcon 2011. They had units that were so broken its ridiculous, and they said themselves campaign wasn't even started. To originally have it releasing for 2011, you really would question what they were doing for 2 years prior to that date.
Again, you make very strong claims but provide no evidence or sources for it. It's a weird way to argue i think. And although we can question it, we don't know what they were doing for those 2 years, as you earlier seemed to know.
My claims weren't strong at all - they didn't need to be. What have those people at blizzard done(in the sc2 department) from WoL release until now?
I don't know... maybe balance changes? They have a team working on HotS full time AND they have to monitor the balance in WoL and fix any major problems. They might not be the fastest team around but they when they get something fixed they get it pretty much %100 correct. Even the ghost nerf looked bad, but in retrospect it's brought win rates as close to %50 as possible. Do I agree that the game should have %50 win rates to be perfectly balanced? No, but it's a DAMN good percentage to have in any RTS. Sure there may be some problems with the game but they are virtually unfixable until HotS comes out because they aren't just going to remove Colossi for example, they would need a new game to do that. Why? Because customers paid for Colossi, and if it's advertised that HotS has no Colossi, then you get what you pay for and blizzard doesn't want to falsely advertise their game, and that includes taking their time with it to give you the best game for your money. Don't like HotS? then don't buy it, but don't bitch to the forums when you feel "forced" to buy it just because everyone switched over... Were you a SC1 elitist when BW came? Or maybe you stuck with WC3 vanilla when people played TFT?
On May 17 2012 02:49 TaeTae wrote: Won't be buying if it's the same price as original game. It's not justifiable to make me wait this long for what I suspect will be mediocre because we all know blizzard employees spend half the day bumming each other to actually put work into a game.
Order now, and Amazon will honor the $39.99 price even if it rises. I believe they will lower the price as well if it ends lower. The chances of it not being $39.99 now that you can pre-order are basically zero.
I like your spirit though, I bet you've never lost a game that it was your fault either.
why is it 40dollars? it should be 29.99 this is and expo, not a brand new game tho
it is a brand new game, you won't need WoL to play it, it will have a full campaign and it's own multiplayer complete with custom maps and a new world editor. $40 is relatively cheap for a FULL game, the only reason why it's priced lower than WoL is because it isn't introducing an entire set of units but only 2-3 for each race. Still, if activision had any say in this they could easily charge us all $60 because it's virtually brand new.
From battle.net Will Heart of the Swarm require ownership of Wings of Liberty? For the regions that have a standard box business model such as North America and Europe, yes, Wings of Liberty will be required in order to play Heart of the Swarm. For other regions that have alternative access models, we’ll provide details at a later date.
TaeTae, Blizzcon 2011 watch the Art and Tech Panel. Check out the brand new environments, imporved shaders, and effects (just to name a few) Do you have any evidence to support your claim they work 10 out of the 40-60 hours they put in each week?
TaeTae, Blizzcon 2011 watch the Art and Tech Panel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIPflCIAIDc Check out the brand new environments, imporved shaders, and effects (just to name a few) Do you have any evidence to support your claim they work 10 out of the 40-60 hours they put in each week?
Unfortunately, naive people think programming something is easy and can be done in just a few short hours and have no clue of how a design process works. Even the simplest thing that needs implementing in a large system can take days or even weeks to get done because the programmers have to ensure that it doesn't break any other part of the system in any way. People also just like complaining about blizzard for no reason. I think they're doing a great job so far and I hope it keeps up.
People should really stop complaining. Even working at a crappy barely-making-much-above-minimum-wage job, like myself right now, $40 is less than a days work. And to the people worrying about paying 100 dollars for sc2 for new players, I highly doubt it. I would be shocked if WoL didn't drop down once HotS comes out, since blizzard generally tends to do that once newer expansions or games come out in a series. We'll likely see packages with both games too for like 60 or 70 or something like that after a few months post-release.
$40 isn't a lot for a standalone game, but Hots is clearly not... it all depends on the content i guess, if all they add are just single player campaigns and two~three new units for each race i'm not going to be happy.
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