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ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
October 23 2011 19:17 GMT
#7041
On October 24 2011 03:59 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 03:58 Fungal Growth wrote:
If you haven't already, make sure to check out the youtube channel 'programmer119' who has a number of videos that aren't posted yet at the start of this thread.

Here is one from the campaign for the zerg unit the raptor:



Thank god that's campaign only.

Though their lack of imagination is really disappointing even for the campaign...


lol Zlings with charge and cliff jump... CHARGE REAPERS!
A time to live.
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 23 2011 19:17 GMT
#7042
The replicant is going to be so much fun. Forget about transforming into 1 tank, when you can transform into an scv and make factories for yourself!
Music is the medicine of the mind || Kill a Zergling and a hundred more will take its place.
Conquerer67
Profile Joined May 2011
United States605 Posts
October 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#7043
Shredder drops are going to be so OP.

Just predicting the future
I hate when people compare SC2 and rochambeu. One race isn't fucking supposed to counter another one. | Protoss isn't OP. Their units on the other hand....
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 23 2011 19:31 GMT
#7044
On October 24 2011 03:35 Fungal Growth wrote:
Over on battle.net forums, there is a guy 'dogger' who is taking questions about HOTS who actually played this quite a bit:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3424465304?page=1

Interesting quote:

No and I checked a lot of stats too. The only noticeable change that I was able to find was the re-imagined Thor and Ultralisks doing +damage to light now instead of armored.

Bye, bye marines


Cool topic thanks for that
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
October 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#7045
On October 24 2011 02:17 dash48 wrote:
here is an idea for the tempest attack (with some awful drawing):
[image loading]




wtf is this?

Is he suggesting we use the warhound attack? Attack three units at once? Change tempest shape? I'm so confused.

Props if troll post.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#7046
Missing out on Blizzcon and just watched all the new stuff. But all i noticed was:

HYDRA SPEED, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! woo woo woo! finally :D!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
October 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#7047
Protoss will underpowered as shit, Terran will be OP as shit, Zergs will doing just fine i guess
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
October 23 2011 19:42 GMT
#7048
Just quit pretending, release HOTS as "Red Alert in Space"...
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 23 2011 19:45 GMT
#7049
More videos here.... It appears somebody by the name of 'vadimos86' has posted a number of more technical videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/vadimos86#p/u

eg



(cool artwork!)



(bad quality but one of the few videos online that shows the arc shield)

...more videos on the guys channel.



Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
October 23 2011 19:46 GMT
#7050
On October 24 2011 04:39 NexCa wrote:
Protoss will underpowered as shit, Terran will be OP as shit, Zergs will doing just fine i guess


How do you wan to know that, we know little about the new units stats/costs and a ton of balance changes will be made just like in WOL. Personally I am really excited about the new expansion, it's a pitty that so many people see it that dark, but I guess BW players reacted similar to SC2.
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 23 2011 19:49 GMT
#7051
Here is the Q&A that took place after the new unit demos:

wDDelete
Profile Joined March 2011
103 Posts
October 23 2011 19:56 GMT
#7052
I think they should go back to the 1 vespene geyser in sc1. The fact that late game about 80 supply is workers is dumb imo. I think a 1/3 of the supply should be the around the max a person needs late game to have stronger unit compositions and larger battles.
On a side note, protoss units are soo bad. No ones going to live through muta harass and make tempests when zerg tech switch is so easy and brutal. Hydra switch with speed boost will shut down all protoss air big time. Why not give us another useful spellcaster synonymous to the dark archon making templar tech more useful for its cost, specially without KA. No one is really going to make a replicant in hopes of wanting a unit of a different race.
Rinkku
Profile Joined October 2011
France3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 20:00:26
October 23 2011 19:59 GMT
#7053
I'd rather read comments than post, and honnestly who here can tell if a unit seems really usefull or imba before trying it.

But man, when I see the tempest, I have to join with those who criticize it : What has it been designed for ? He 's got no utility whatsoever. Who cares dealing with mass mutalisk ? Who goes with mass muta anyway, except in bronze, it's useless vs protoss.

And as showed in the vid, it's clearly the only air unit it can conter effectively, but once again : We don't need it ! Take it back !
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 23 2011 19:59 GMT
#7054
On October 24 2011 04:56 wDDelete wrote:
I think they should go back to the 1 vespene geyser in sc1. The fact that late game about 80 supply is workers is dumb imo. I think a 1/3 of the supply should be the around the max a person needs late game to have stronger unit compositions and larger battles.
On a side note, protoss units are soo bad. No ones going to live through muta harass and make tempests when zerg tech switch is so easy and brutal. Hydra switch with speed boost will shut down all protoss air big time. Why not give us another useful spellcaster synonymous to the dark archon making templar tech more useful for its cost, specially without KA. No one is really going to make a replicant in hopes of wanting a unit of a different race.

If im correct on this, the replicant can also change into workers giving you the ablity to create Hatcheries or CCs to create your own PZ or PT army
Music is the medicine of the mind || Kill a Zergling and a hundred more will take its place.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
October 23 2011 20:01 GMT
#7055
On October 24 2011 04:59 Musiq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 04:56 wDDelete wrote:
I think they should go back to the 1 vespene geyser in sc1. The fact that late game about 80 supply is workers is dumb imo. I think a 1/3 of the supply should be the around the max a person needs late game to have stronger unit compositions and larger battles.
On a side note, protoss units are soo bad. No ones going to live through muta harass and make tempests when zerg tech switch is so easy and brutal. Hydra switch with speed boost will shut down all protoss air big time. Why not give us another useful spellcaster synonymous to the dark archon making templar tech more useful for its cost, specially without KA. No one is really going to make a replicant in hopes of wanting a unit of a different race.

If im correct on this, the replicant can also change into workers giving you the ablity to create Hatcheries or CCs to create your own PZ or PT army


LOL I remember Stork playing a Fastest Map Possible on a variety show... for the first time... they told him to stop making probes at 100 and he was like "wtf, that's less than I make in a normal game -.-"
A time to live.
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
October 23 2011 20:01 GMT
#7056
On October 24 2011 04:59 Musiq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 04:56 wDDelete wrote:
I think they should go back to the 1 vespene geyser in sc1. The fact that late game about 80 supply is workers is dumb imo. I think a 1/3 of the supply should be the around the max a person needs late game to have stronger unit compositions and larger battles.
On a side note, protoss units are soo bad. No ones going to live through muta harass and make tempests when zerg tech switch is so easy and brutal. Hydra switch with speed boost will shut down all protoss air big time. Why not give us another useful spellcaster synonymous to the dark archon making templar tech more useful for its cost, specially without KA. No one is really going to make a replicant in hopes of wanting a unit of a different race.

If im correct on this, the replicant can also change into workers giving you the ablity to create Hatcheries or CCs to create your own PZ or PT army



if we wanted to play with T or Z units we could just switch races?
=)
Seriously we want a toss unit....
En Taro Adun, Executor!
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
October 23 2011 20:03 GMT
#7057
On October 24 2011 04:39 SmoKim wrote:
Missing out on Blizzcon and just watched all the new stuff. But all i noticed was:

HYDRA SPEED, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! woo woo woo! finally :D!


Well that and baneling burrow movement. But it will be hive tech and i just worry that it will be "too late" and never used.

Honestly, i had high hopes for a zergling "combat shield" upgrade. Like with marines.

or maybe banelings would come with burrow already upgraded like Lurkers.

small stuff like that would have been awesome.
"Mudkip"
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
October 23 2011 20:04 GMT
#7058
On October 24 2011 04:59 Rinkku wrote:
I'd rather read comments than post, and honnestly who here can tell if a unit seems really usefull or imba before trying it.

But man, when I see the tempest, I have to join with those who criticize it : What has it been designed for ? He 's got no utility whatsoever. Who cares dealing with mass mutalisk ? Who goes with mass muta anyway, except in bronze, it's useless vs protoss.

And as showed in the vid, it's clearly the only air unit it can conter effectively, but once again : We don't need it ! Take it back !


They said it will be good against any massed air unit. So you can fight vikings and corruptors with it.
psteeleneg
Profile Joined June 2011
48 Posts
October 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#7059
The shredder attacks ground and air, has a very large radius and does EXTREME amounts of damage per second. The "not working close to your own units" doesn't matter. It isn't shut off by buildings. imagine a terran on shattered temple get the base in the corner as his third and then put two of them BEHIND a depot wall off and a couple turrets next to them. vs zerg this would completely shut down any chances of doing a run-by. melee / short range attackers won't be able to get past the depot wall to even attack the shredders before getting whipped out and mutas dont have the hp or defence to take them out while taking the damage from it as well as turrets protecting them.

Zerg will never be able to break into a 3rd when the vulnerable entrance can be shut down so easilly.
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 23 2011 20:13 GMT
#7060
On October 24 2011 05:11 psteeleneg wrote:
The shredder attacks ground and air, has a very large radius and does EXTREME amounts of damage per second. The "not working close to your own units" doesn't matter. It isn't shut off by buildings. imagine a terran on shattered temple get the base in the corner as his third and then put two of them BEHIND a depot wall off and a couple turrets next to them. vs zerg this would completely shut down any chances of doing a run-by. melee / short range attackers won't be able to get past the depot wall to even attack the shredders before getting whipped out and mutas dont have the hp or defence to take them out while taking the damage from it as well as turrets protecting them.

Zerg will never be able to break into a 3rd when the vulnerable entrance can be shut down so easilly.

You have to remember its only does extreme damage to light armored, you can still use roaches to destroy them or outrange them with the new swarm host.
Music is the medicine of the mind || Kill a Zergling and a hundred more will take its place.
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