EPTAwesome stuff! A golden mouse is probably what I would care for more than the tournament itself!
ZOWIE announces DIVINA female sc2 tournament - Page 2
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Awesome stuff! A golden mouse is probably what I would care for more than the tournament itself! | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On October 21 2011 16:35 Derpmallow wrote: Certainly, I agree with there being two ways to go about this kind of thing, and as a start this is good for the community as a whole. I just worry that, the longer you isolate female pros from male pros, the more they will separate in terms of skills - especially if you have female-only tournies that pay more than most male tournaments. Where most pros obviously will play at as many tournaments as possible, and always bring their A game, the females might not see that need if you don't create enough of a competitive environment. Sure, at first, this style of tournament will bring in crowds and is good for esports, but it also leads to expectations - that they will be getting equal or larger size tournaments in the future, possibly with the same level of competition. If you change that, you risk losing a lot of the females that are trying to compete but aren't ready to seriously commit to the huge change in competition, but at the same time, there has to be some sort of merge between the two genders for a sport like this. Everyone's worked so hard to keep this funny eSport together, the last thing we need is to make one of the biggest splits possible. I agree, but, as with everyone starting out, there is not much for a beginner to learn from fighting a Masters player: That's just not how learning is done. In due time with more female players this will happen automatically but for that to happen we NEED more female gamers to begin with... kind of a hen and egg situation. In the best of our worlds there would be no need for a tournament like this since the woman would already be participating in all the other tournaments, but that is just not the case. In the future these tournaments wont be needed (other than to act as commercials for a special event etc) but until then we sadly do. | ||
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IMRandom
Korea (South)34 Posts
On October 21 2011 16:34 MonkSEA wrote: He was making a joke at the GSL doing makeup on the players for the player portfolios. But this is great news for female gamers. Gets them more active and contributing in the scene, I just hope that this isn't a trend in the future(female/male only tournaments) when SC2 is bigger then what it is now. Yeah, but I'm rather disgusted than aroused at looking at those portfolios. Female only tournaments have always existed, but there was no "male only" tourneys. Female players are just not up to the "competitive standard" yet, and tournaments like these are supposed to help them | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Porcelain
United States218 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On October 21 2011 16:35 Derpmallow wrote: Certainly, I agree with there being two ways to go about this kind of thing, and as a start this is good for the community as a whole. I just worry that, the longer you isolate female pros from male pros, the more they will separate in terms of skills - especially if you have female-only tournies that pay more than most male tournaments. Where most pros obviously will play at as many tournaments as possible, and always bring their A game, the females might not see that need if you don't create enough of a competitive environment. Sure, at first, this style of tournament will bring in crowds and is good for esports, but it also leads to expectations - that they will be getting equal or larger size tournaments in the future, possibly with the same level of competition. If you change that, you risk losing a lot of the females that are trying to compete but aren't ready to seriously commit to the huge change in competition, but at the same time, there has to be some sort of merge between the two genders for a sport like this. Everyone's worked so hard to keep this funny eSport together, the last thing we need is to make one of the biggest splits possible. Thanks for going off topic. Please take the discussion elsewhere, ok? This is not a religion thread -.- | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
Just had ot make that comparison... Anyway, I'll probably be tuning in to check this out, hoping for cameras showing player reactions! | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
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blabber
United States4449 Posts
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Stark1
Canada120 Posts
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Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On October 21 2011 17:23 Stark1 wrote: I'm all for e-sports, but... $10k for what? Mid-Masters level play? How is it not offensive to both genders that females are being held to a far lower standard than are the men? How is it not offensive to you that this difference exists in many, many other sports too? You could argue the same for wrestling or what have you. | ||
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dib
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
On October 21 2011 17:23 Stark1 wrote: I'm all for e-sports, but... $10k for what? Mid-Masters level play? How is it not offensive to both genders that females are being held to a far lower standard than are the men? Considering the pool of talent they have to work from is astronomically lower (1/100th? 1/1000th?), I don't see it as an issue. I could be a little critical of them for making an invitational though..isn't that counter-intuitive if you're trying to get more girls to participate in playing RTS games? | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Best of luck with the tournament, money invested in the scene is good no matter where it goes. | ||
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Moskau
114 Posts
How is it not offensive to you that this difference exists in many, many other sports too? You could argue the same for wrestling or what have you. Your argument is fallacious considering in these sports, women are actually inferior to the males that participate in the same sport. Physically they're just inferior, that's why they often time have different rules or leagues. Women sports are far less successful than male sports, they either aren't as popular or don't exist as a professional sport all together. That's why they're treated differently. Tennis and Golf would be the main exception to this, however the rules are not the same (handicap) in these sports as their male counterparts. Basketball and soccer they have made attempts but no one really cares for them as sports, and they are financially unstable at best. Might I add, they also tried to do this in cs 1.6 and was utter failure. The female players were terrible at the game and it was completely unwatchable. Trying to market an inferior product is only viable if you market them as girls first and as players second. This is what I think is insulting personally. | ||
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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