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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On October 17 2011 16:50 ReketSomething wrote: WTF. They made this even more favored towards seeded players. Why is mlg so evil to freshies... No shit this is the Championship. If the players who gained all those points during the regular events didn't gain an advantage it would be messed up, and would make those regular events meaningless. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
I've just loved MLG and it's tournament format. It's not perfect I know, nor fair to players who can't make every tournament. but as a viewer it's really exciting for me to see who's going to make heroic runs from the open bracket etc. Providence should be absolutely amazing, would love to be there! | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On October 17 2011 16:50 ReketSomething wrote: WTF. They made this even more favored towards seeded players. Why is mlg so evil to freshies... To encourage people to participate in the other, way lower price pool tournaments of theirs. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Jim7
United States154 Posts
I'm guessing that if any 1 of these people don't show then incontrol gets in? But I don't know why any of those top 16 wouldn't show.. Maybe a Korean might not if they have some Code S/A stuff is going on that they MUST attend. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 17 2011 16:50 ReketSomething wrote: WTF. They made this even more favored towards seeded players. Why is mlg so evil to freshies... Remember the NASL where basically every match in the entire tournament before the finals was meaningless and the grandfinals were the real deal? MLG is preventing that, and this is good. Puma winning the NASL was, as exciting as the series vs MC was, a joke. Top seeded players having a big adventage is perfectly reasonable. | ||
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Apom
France656 Posts
On October 17 2011 16:59 Sea_Food wrote: To encourage people to participate in the other, way lower price pool tournaments of theirs. Yeah, it makes complete sense from a business point of view. Not so much from a competitive point of view, unfortunately :/ | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:01 KeksX wrote: Remember the NASL where basically every match in the entire tournament before the finals was meaningless and the grandfinals were the real deal? MLG is preventing that, and this is good. Puma winning the NASL was, as exciting as the series vs MC was, a joke. Top seeded players having a big adventage is perfectly reasonable. puma had to go through more players and he had to win them all. MC actually dropped sets in pool play, and it's obvious that Puma had the harder road to the grand finals. How is every match before meaningless? If you don't place top 16 in in the pools you don't get to go to the grand finals period. The order in which you place didn't really matter, that's all, but the difference between being first place and 16th and being forced to win 4 more series is just dumb. Also consider the fact that in no way shape or form are the rankings indicative of higher quality players, just those who have attended more MLGs. | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
So someone like Haypro who made like 15th place 4 times is more important than gold medal? | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:08 Alpina wrote: Wow can't believe player who won whole event won't be seeded because someone got more points... So someone like Haypro who made like 15th place 4 times is more important than gold medal? The whole objective of the regular events was to gain points, If MVP attended Orlando he would have top 16 seed for providence. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:08 Alpina wrote: Wow can't believe player who won whole event won't be seeded because someone got more points... So someone like Haypro who made like 15th place 4 times is more important than gold medal? If MVP got just enough points to make it in, you'd basically guarantee IdrA a trip to the losers bracket after playing just one best of 3. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:08 Alpina wrote: Wow can't believe player who won whole event won't be seeded because someone got more points... So someone like Haypro who made like 15th place 4 times is more important than gold medal? I can't believe people are qqing over this. The thing is a culmination of a CIRCUIT and as such if you can only turn up to one event it is perfectly fine that you don't get seeded I mean MLG doesn't have a great format, but it is MILES ahead of every other tournament | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:12 zaii wrote: The whole objective of the regular events was to gain points, If MVP attended Orlando he would have top 16 seed for providence. Yes, but it's not really fair because getting 1st place is much much harder than going to all MLGs and doing mediocre results. 1st place winners should get more points so they are guaranteed to be seeded imo. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:15 Alpina wrote: Yes, but it's not really fair because getting 1st place is much much harder than going to all MLGs and doing mediocre results. 1st place winners should get more points so they are guaranteed to be seeded imo. It could be a rule for MLG 2012, where winners of MLGs get automatically seeded to the final, but honestly, for this circuit, it's not that big of a deal. MVP could easily go through the open bracket as well and then plough through the losers from the seeded group. | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
Of course that would require a very organized body that creates and tracks rankings very well as well as sanctions events and tournaments that would count towards those rankings. And such a system would also be complicated by the korean/foreign divide if they were not weighted appropriately or counted separately. Still, I'd love to see the major tourneys working together and coexisting in the same way the Grand Slams do, and setting up something like this would work very well for that. | ||
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Creem
Sweden254 Posts
Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious, but your seeding/ranking system is far too rigid. | ||
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thekoven
United States128 Posts
On October 17 2011 12:11 motbob wrote: Note that Idra is probably not so happy that he got the #1 seed. Wait why wouldnt he be happy? Is this a typo? Confused I am. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On October 17 2011 17:29 KeithONLINE wrote: Wait why wouldnt he be happy? Is this a typo? Confused I am. In this particular instance, the #1 seed got the more difficult side of the bracket compared to the #2, #3, and #4 seed. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
Still mind boggling how a player like MVP can be below ranking points than a player like iNcontroL, jesus. Can't wait for next season. | ||
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Creem
Sweden254 Posts
On October 17 2011 13:13 Lunares wrote: Remember Incontrol did get 4th in the very first event (dallas). So that's why he is so high. 4th place = 800 points, 1st place = 1200 points. Incontrol only has 1270 points because he got 4x really bad places for another 470 points. The fact that '4x really bad places' are worth 470 points is just further evidence why this system is fundamentally flawed. | ||
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