MVP only played in one event and is therefore not in the top 16 points wise.
My question, do we know the BoX format here? Is just like all the other MLG events where it's Bo3 all the way through, except for extended series? I would assume it's that way.
Wait, so winning one event isn't worth more points than someone that went 0-6'd in like 6 events consecutively? My mind just imploded!
Someone in pools who were to go 0-6 at all 5 events this year would get 300 points. The winner of an event gets 1200 points. So, no.
That is pretty ridicuoulus. Basically, if your one of original people in pool play, and you show up to every event, no matter how badly you do, you are guarenteed to keep your spot... -_-
Umm no. If you do as horrible every event you won't be top 16 at the end. Hell if you go 0-6 in the first event you will fall out of pool play.
The reason incontrol is still in pool play is his 4th place at dallas. If he finished 20+ at dallas like the rest of his results, he wouldn't be close to pool play.
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote: what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..
That is the point. The circuit events were meant to put on a great show for the fans all year long and the championship is designed to reward those players who performed best throughout the whole circuit. It is not an isolated event like a Dreamhack.
If the same 16 people got into top 16 at all 5 events and it was a certain distribution, it would actually be possible for someone to win 2 events (and not attend the other 3) and still not get into top 16 for the 6th event.
Top 16 get a total of 9360 points. If that was given to the same 16 players for 5 events, they would have a total of 46800 points (total in top 68 is 54578 right now). Since someone else won 2 events, they'd lose 2400 points, but they'd get the 420 points from two 17th place finishes, meaning they'd be at 2801.25 points average, well above the guy that came in and won 2 events but didn't come for the rest.
On October 17 2011 14:46 tuho12345 wrote: If MVP and Nestea wanna make some cash, then just go to the open bracket. EZPZ for them anyway.
Which ever isn't still in contention for the GSL November, expect them to be there, I'd think, lol. (Though I think MVP will be paid to come back out by MLG. Nestea would have to come on his own.)
On October 17 2011 14:46 tuho12345 wrote: If MVP and Nestea wanna make some cash, then just go to the open bracket. EZPZ for them anyway.
The issue is that you have to have serious endurance to do that. Playing through so many sets against good players will definitely be a bit tiring for either of those players and might throw off their performance. We've only ever really seen Nestea play in sets of 2-5 games with significant preparation in between.
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote: wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol Seed 3 has it easy lol
It appears to be that way, but there was no intentional theorycrafting of how it could have been avoided. It just naturally will be hardest for 1 of the 4, and it's unfortunate that #1 (we can even call it Group A), has it hardest, and it's even more unfortunate that that person is infact IdrA, who we all know struggles the most against MC.
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote: wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol Seed 3 has it easy lol
Maybe, but they only have to play whoever comes out of it. Since the seeding for Koreans that haven't been there is random, we could end up with someone like FXOLucky on an insane run, he could be in any of the brackets.
Or like Polt.
While Idra doesn't have the bracket some others do, DRG is probably the scariest one that'll be seeded #5 and below, at least by this month's skill level.
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote: what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..
makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.
And encourages the highest level play through every single event, since doing your best every single time, even if you can't win it, will matter later.
I like the format overall. (obviously some things can be fixed, like only Bo3's, wtf...) Next year I expect fewer complaints, with bigger prize pools more koreans will come = higher level play = less slackers in pool = even more epic play.
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote: wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol Seed 3 has it easy lol
The seeding seems to have been done correctly, so it should be correct.
yeh but its so eff up lol I don't like the point system coz most Koreans didn't attend all MLG so the points were skewed.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not right.
Sure, it would be fun to see Huk vs Idra, Boxer vs Idra, Zenio vs Idra, MC vs Idra and several other rivalries in every single tournament all the time, but that's not how the tournament works.
On October 17 2011 15:01 Lobo2me wrote: Sure, it would be fun to see Huk vs Idra, Boxer vs Idra, Zenio vs Idra, MC vs Idra and several other rivalries in every single tournament all the time, but that's not how the tournament works.
IdrA does have a lot of rivalries, doesn't he? >.>
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote: what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..
makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.
Yeah but the MLG format's still messed up. The true MLG tournie is pool play to take the top spot within that pool, followed by a Ro4 tournie. The Loser's Bracket and Championship bracket outside of the top seeds, all of it's a waste of time. The MLG format's meant to exhaust anyone who misses a single step in the open tourney and pool play whilst providing insane advantages to the top seeds.
You can argue that taking 1st in pool play's balanced, which it arguably is. But let's eliminate the pretense that anyone has a fucking chance outside of the top 4 from the Pools cause no one does.
MMA vs Huk or if MC beats idra, then MC vs Huk or MMA vs MC or something like that, most likely
yeah im confused why MVP is not on there? MMA was only in like 2 MLGs right and won 1 only and got 2nd i guess MLG really wants to reward consistent showing over result o.o
Edit: Oops I forgot about bomber and DRG and possibly someone insane from the open bracket
Meh, glad to see incontrol isn't on there though.
GL HF! hopefully the most epic MLG yet? (lol let's see it be MVP vs MMA or MVP vs DRG or MMA vs DRG grand finals, MVP coming from open bracket xD)
Damn, so brutal. I would think top 16 would get paid at the very least.
I think that would be a bit unfair since this is a "bonus" after all, they shouldn't get free money just because they were top 16. If you know what i mean? But win one and they get 3000, shit thats so much.
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote: what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..
makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.
Yeah but the MLG format's still messed up. The true MLG tournie is pool play to take the top spot within that pool, followed by a Ro4 tournie. The Loser's Bracket and Championship bracket outside of the top seeds, all of it's a waste of time. The MLG format's meant to exhaust anyone who misses a single step in the open tourney and pool play whilst providing insane advantages to the top seeds.
You can argue that taking 1st in pool play's balanced, which it arguably is. But let's eliminate the pretense that anyone has a fucking chance outside of the top 4 from the Pools cause no one does.
Has the winner of each pool group gone on to win every MLG?