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Oats123
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 05:41:24
October 17 2011 05:40 GMT
#121
On October 17 2011 12:40 Zzoram wrote:
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On October 17 2011 12:38 fAnTaCy wrote:
I love how Idra vs MC rematch is a very good possibility already lol


Hasn't MC knocked Idra out of EVERY tournament they have met in?



I truely believe that we are seeing a brand new more powerful Idra. I dont think MC will get to knock out the Grack the next time they meet.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 17 2011 05:41 GMT
#122
On October 17 2011 14:10 kofman wrote:
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On October 17 2011 13:10 motbob wrote:
On October 17 2011 13:07 Fubi wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:44 Lunares wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:39 Fubi wrote:
Wheres MVP?


MVP only played in one event and is therefore not in the top 16 points wise.

My question, do we know the BoX format here? Is just like all the other MLG events where it's Bo3 all the way through, except for extended series? I would assume it's that way.

Wait, so winning one event isn't worth more points than someone that went 0-6'd in like 6 events consecutively? My mind just imploded!

Someone in pools who were to go 0-6 at all 5 events this year would get 300 points. The winner of an event gets 1200 points. So, no.

That is pretty ridicuoulus. Basically, if your one of original people in pool play, and you show up to every event, no matter how badly you do, you are guarenteed to keep your spot... -_-

Umm no. If you do as horrible every event you won't be top 16 at the end. Hell if you go 0-6 in the first event you will fall out of pool play.

The reason incontrol is still in pool play is his 4th place at dallas. If he finished 20+ at dallas like the rest of his results, he wouldn't be close to pool play.
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
October 17 2011 05:42 GMT
#123
On October 17 2011 14:36 Bear4188 wrote:
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On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote:
what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..


That is the point. The circuit events were meant to put on a great show for the fans all year long and the championship is designed to reward those players who performed best throughout the whole circuit. It is not an isolated event like a Dreamhack.

If the same 16 people got into top 16 at all 5 events and it was a certain distribution, it would actually be possible for someone to win 2 events (and not attend the other 3) and still not get into top 16 for the 6th event.

Top 16 get a total of 9360 points. If that was given to the same 16 players for 5 events, they would have a total of 46800 points (total in top 68 is 54578 right now). Since someone else won 2 events, they'd lose 2400 points, but they'd get the 420 points from two 17th place finishes, meaning they'd be at 2801.25 points average, well above the guy that came in and won 2 events but didn't come for the rest.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 17 2011 05:44 GMT
#124
On October 17 2011 14:40 Oats123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 12:40 Zzoram wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:38 fAnTaCy wrote:
I love how Idra vs MC rematch is a very good possibility already lol


Hasn't MC knocked Idra out of EVERY tournament they have met in?



I truely believe that we are seeing a brand new more powerful Idra. I dont think MC will get to knock out the Grack the next time they meet.


More powerful than the Idra we saw today, when MC still knocked him out?
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 17 2011 05:46 GMT
#125
If MVP and Nestea wanna make some cash, then just go to the open bracket. EZPZ for them anyway.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 05:47:27
October 17 2011 05:46 GMT
#126
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 17 2011 05:49 GMT
#127
On October 17 2011 14:46 tuho12345 wrote:
If MVP and Nestea wanna make some cash, then just go to the open bracket. EZPZ for them anyway.


Which ever isn't still in contention for the GSL November, expect them to be there, I'd think, lol. (Though I think MVP will be paid to come back out by MLG. Nestea would have to come on his own.)
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
October 17 2011 05:50 GMT
#128
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote:
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol

The seeding seems to have been done correctly, so it should be correct.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
October 17 2011 05:51 GMT
#129
On October 17 2011 14:46 tuho12345 wrote:
If MVP and Nestea wanna make some cash, then just go to the open bracket. EZPZ for them anyway.

The issue is that you have to have serious endurance to do that. Playing through so many sets against good players will definitely be a bit tiring for either of those players and might throw off their performance. We've only ever really seen Nestea play in sets of 2-5 games with significant preparation in between.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
October 17 2011 05:51 GMT
#130
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote:
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol


It appears to be that way, but there was no intentional theorycrafting of how it could have been avoided. It just naturally will be hardest for 1 of the 4, and it's unfortunate that #1 (we can even call it Group A), has it hardest, and it's even more unfortunate that that person is infact IdrA, who we all know struggles the most against MC.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 17 2011 05:51 GMT
#131
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote:
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol


Maybe, but they only have to play whoever comes out of it. Since the seeding for Koreans that haven't been there is random, we could end up with someone like FXOLucky on an insane run, he could be in any of the brackets.

Or like Polt.

While Idra doesn't have the bracket some others do, DRG is probably the scariest one that'll be seeded #5 and below, at least by this month's skill level.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
October 17 2011 05:53 GMT
#132
On October 17 2011 14:50 Lobo2me wrote:
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On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote:
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol

The seeding seems to have been done correctly, so it should be correct.

yeh but its so eff up lol I don't like the point system coz most Koreans didn't attend all MLG so the points were skewed.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
October 17 2011 05:53 GMT
#133
On October 17 2011 14:39 zaii wrote:
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On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote:
what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..


makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.

And encourages the highest level play through every single event, since doing your best every single time, even if you can't win it, will matter later.

I like the format overall. (obviously some things can be fixed, like only Bo3's, wtf...) Next year I expect fewer complaints, with bigger prize pools more koreans will come = higher level play = less slackers in pool = even more epic play.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
October 17 2011 06:01 GMT
#134
On October 17 2011 14:53 DarkRise wrote:
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On October 17 2011 14:50 Lobo2me wrote:
On October 17 2011 14:46 DarkRise wrote:
wtf so Seed 1 has the most difficult bracket lol
Seed 3 has it easy lol

The seeding seems to have been done correctly, so it should be correct.

yeh but its so eff up lol I don't like the point system coz most Koreans didn't attend all MLG so the points were skewed.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not right.

Sure, it would be fun to see Huk vs Idra, Boxer vs Idra, Zenio vs Idra, MC vs Idra and several other rivalries in every single tournament all the time, but that's not how the tournament works.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
October 17 2011 06:33 GMT
#135
On October 17 2011 15:01 Lobo2me wrote:
Sure, it would be fun to see Huk vs Idra, Boxer vs Idra, Zenio vs Idra, MC vs Idra and several other rivalries in every single tournament all the time, but that's not how the tournament works.

IdrA does have a lot of rivalries, doesn't he? >.>
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
October 17 2011 06:39 GMT
#136
God, I hope I can go to this !
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
October 17 2011 06:48 GMT
#137
On October 17 2011 13:22 Ansalem wrote:
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On October 17 2011 13:21 jjhchsc2 wrote:
whats the prize distribution?


1st $50,000
2nd $25,000
3rd $15,000
4th $10,500
5th $7500
6th $5250
7th $3750
8th $3000

Damn, so brutal. I would think top 16 would get paid at the very least.
synkronized
Profile Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
October 17 2011 06:49 GMT
#138
On October 17 2011 14:39 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote:
what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..


makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.

Yeah but the MLG format's still messed up. The true MLG tournie is pool play to take the top spot within that pool, followed by a Ro4 tournie. The Loser's Bracket and Championship bracket outside of the top seeds, all of it's a waste of time. The MLG format's meant to exhaust anyone who misses a single step in the open tourney and pool play whilst providing insane advantages to the top seeds.

You can argue that taking 1st in pool play's balanced, which it arguably is. But let's eliminate the pretense that anyone has a fucking chance outside of the top 4 from the Pools cause no one does.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 06:57:34
October 17 2011 06:56 GMT
#139
MMA vs Huk or if MC beats idra, then MC vs Huk or MMA vs MC or something like that, most likely

yeah im confused why MVP is not on there? MMA was only in like 2 MLGs right and won 1 only and got 2nd i guess MLG really wants to reward consistent showing over result o.o

Edit: Oops I forgot about bomber and DRG and possibly someone insane from the open bracket

Meh, glad to see incontrol isn't on there though.

GL HF! hopefully the most epic MLG yet? (lol let's see it be MVP vs MMA or MVP vs DRG or MMA vs DRG grand finals, MVP coming from open bracket xD)


On October 17 2011 15:48 AdreN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:22 Ansalem wrote:
On October 17 2011 13:21 jjhchsc2 wrote:
whats the prize distribution?


1st $50,000
2nd $25,000
3rd $15,000
4th $10,500
5th $7500
6th $5250
7th $3750
8th $3000

Damn, so brutal. I would think top 16 would get paid at the very least.



I think that would be a bit unfair since this is a "bonus" after all, they shouldn't get free money just because they were top 16. If you know what i mean? But win one and they get 3000, shit thats so much.

50,000 prize pool im glad to see it so big
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AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
October 17 2011 07:00 GMT
#140
On October 17 2011 15:49 synkronized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 14:39 zaii wrote:
On October 17 2011 14:12 ThyHate wrote:
what is wrong with MLG and their tourneys formats -_- This is just an INSANE advantage for the seeds..


makes attending MLG regular season events and earning more points much more important.

Yeah but the MLG format's still messed up. The true MLG tournie is pool play to take the top spot within that pool, followed by a Ro4 tournie. The Loser's Bracket and Championship bracket outside of the top seeds, all of it's a waste of time. The MLG format's meant to exhaust anyone who misses a single step in the open tourney and pool play whilst providing insane advantages to the top seeds.

You can argue that taking 1st in pool play's balanced, which it arguably is. But let's eliminate the pretense that anyone has a fucking chance outside of the top 4 from the Pools cause no one does.

Has the winner of each pool group gone on to win every MLG?
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