On October 17 2011 12:11 motbob wrote:

Rain and Incontrol are tied in rank points, but Rain gets the spot. I'll explain why at the end of this post.

When you promise you will explain something later in the post, it would be useful if you actually did that too. ^_^

Edit: sorry i didn't notice post nr 2 :D

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

October 17 2011 03:44 GMT

#22

Ya MVP getting 16th seed instead of Rain would be nice since MVP is undoubtedly better than Rain, and also actually won an MLG.

Lunares

United States909 Posts

October 17 2011 03:44 GMT

#23

On October 17 2011 12:39 Fubi wrote:
Wheres MVP?

MVP only played in one event and is therefore not in the top 16 points wise.

My question, do we know the BoX format here? Is just like all the other MLG events where it's Bo3 all the way through, except for extended series? I would assume it's that way.

Xivsa

United States1009 Posts

October 17 2011 03:44 GMT

#24

On October 17 2011 12:43 1ManArmy wrote:

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When you promise you will explain something later in the post, it would be useful if you actually did that too. ^_^

He did, read the post immediately below the OP also written by motbob.

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

October 17 2011 03:44 GMT

#25

On October 17 2011 12:43 1ManArmy wrote:

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When you promise you will explain something later in the post, it would be useful if you actually did that too. ^_^

He did, in post #2

Bear4188

United States1797 Posts

October 17 2011 03:45 GMT

#26

On October 17 2011 12:39 Fubi wrote:
Wheres MVP?

Mvp is ranked #19. So if three players ahead of him decide not to attend he could be placed into the Winner's Bracket.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

October 17 2011 03:47 GMT

#27

the spread for 1 2 3 is 200 points. give 1 an extra 300 points or so will get mvp his seed and everyone can be happy

Olinim

4044 Posts

October 17 2011 03:48 GMT

#28

On October 17 2011 12:40 Zzoram wrote:

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Hasn't MC knocked Idra out of EVERY tournament they have met in?

Yeah. DHS, Columbus, DH stockholm, orlando.

theherder2

United States538 Posts

October 17 2011 03:49 GMT

#29

I'm a little disappointed in the loss of pool play. It creates interesting series of games between top players, when the games are important but there is no elimination threat.

So according to this format, the top 4 seeds basically don't even get to play until most likely late Saturday when the games from the Open bracket finish up and the champ/losers champ brackets are completed.

As a fan, the pool play "exhibitions" are a great source of entertainment and a highlight of MLG tournaments. For example we'd get to see for sure at least 5 Idra matches in pool play, whereas in this bracket we might be waiting around a day or so to see him drop two matches and be out of the tournament.

While understandably the format is different because it is championships, I feel like pool play shoulda stayed in the format.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

October 17 2011 03:50 GMT

#30

Boxer do well this next MLG I believeeeee

tuho12345

4482 Posts

October 17 2011 03:50 GMT

#31

MC is gonna win and beat IdrA again for fun !

Canucklehead

Canada5074 Posts

October 17 2011 03:50 GMT

#32

Weird I remember MLG saying all champions would be invited for providence. No mvp seeded means he probably won't come which is ridiculous. Though maybe he still will for a chance at 50k but that's so many games to play compared to top 4.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45182 Posts

October 17 2011 03:51 GMT

#33

Top of the bracket is so stacked x.x

IdrA's gonna have a rough ride

NoobSkills

United States1601 Posts

October 17 2011 03:51 GMT

#34

On October 17 2011 12:13 Wren wrote:
Important to remember that none of the players are confirmed that they're attending. 29 days before the tournament is the deadline for confirming attendance, so there's time for the specifics to change.

Very true, but.... very unlikely someone wouldn't show up.
Unless a Code S run is occupying their time (not sure about dates for providence or Code S) or a health issue comes up I don't see a single person skipping out on this. Why come to all the $5k tournaments and skip the $50k tournament? Doesn't make sense.

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 17 2011 03:52 GMT

#35

Motbob I'm just curious: Order is determined by "Starcraft 2 Pro Status Rankings, Starcraft 2 Pro Circuit Rank Points, and Starcraft 2 Online Qualifier Rank Points."

Does this mean that order is first determined by pro status rankings, then by pro circuit rank points, and then by online qualifier rank points?

Then pro status rankings is defined as "The top 16 Players, determined by Starcraft 2 Pro Circuit Rank Points immediately following each Pro Circuit Competition" plus the tiebreaker rule for recent performance.

This is really confusing to me. They incorporate the pro circuit rank points into the definition of pro status rankings, yet say pro circuit rankings are how order is determined, with pro circuit rank points as the tiebreaker if pro status rankings are equal.

The way I understand it

1) Points determine seed, if there's a tie.
2) Recent performance controls, if there's a tie.
3) Online points control.

However, because of the way they define all the terms, I feel I'm missing a nuance and its really bothering me.

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

October 17 2011 03:52 GMT

#36

Lolololol Poor IdrA.

The #1 seed literally has the 3 worst players behind him. Bomber/MC/Rain is by far far far far more difficult than what any of the other top seeds have.

Gobe

210 Posts

October 17 2011 03:53 GMT

#37

The higher seeded players are heavily rewarded but they start the tournament playing some really really tough opponents. Only one person can make it to the finals through the winner's bracket. I like it.

LuckyFool

United States9015 Posts

October 17 2011 03:55 GMT

#38

wow cool no pools? I like this!

motbob

United States12546 Posts

October 17 2011 03:55 GMT

#39

On October 17 2011 12:52 -_- wrote:
Motbob I'm just curious: Order is determined by "Starcraft 2 Pro Status Rankings, Starcraft 2 Pro Circuit Rank Points, and Starcraft 2 Online Qualifier Rank Points."

Does this mean that order is first determined by pro status rankings, then by pro circuit rank points, and then by online qualifier rank points?

Then pro status rankings is defined as "The top 16 Players, determined by Starcraft 2 Pro Circuit Rank Points immediately following each Pro Circuit Competition" plus the tiebreaker rule for recent performance.

This is really confusing to me. They incorporate the pro circuit rank points into the definition of pro status rankings, yet say pro circuit rankings are how order is determined, with pro circuit rank points as the tiebreaker if pro status rankings.

The way I understand it

1) Points determine seed, if there's a tie.
2) Recent performance controls, if there's a tie.
3) Online points control.

However, because of the way they define all the terms, I feel I'm missing a nuance and its really bothering me.

mmm I think the idea is that the top 16 players have "pro status", but people below the top 16 also need to be ranked. For example, in the open bracket for Providence, people are ranked from 1-256. No one has pro status, since everyone with pro status is seeded, so the ranking passes down to Rank Points and Online Points if necessary.

Does that answer your question?

Ansalem

564 Posts

October 17 2011 03:56 GMT

#40

On October 17 2011 12:52 DoomsVille wrote:
Lolololol Poor IdrA.

The #1 seed literally has the 3 worst players behind him. Bomber/MC/Rain is by far far far far more difficult than what any of the other top seeds have.

Even so he only has to play the one who makes it through. So it could be...who knows, just as examples Bomber, where as other top 4 seeds will have DRG, Boxer, and Puma respectively. That's not as terrible a comparison.