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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
October 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#61
Why isnt mvp in top 16
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Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
October 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#62
On October 17 2011 13:07 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 12:44 Lunares wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:39 Fubi wrote:
Wheres MVP?


MVP only played in one event and is therefore not in the top 16 points wise.

My question, do we know the BoX format here? Is just like all the other MLG events where it's Bo3 all the way through, except for extended series? I would assume it's that way.

Wait, so winning one event isn't worth more points than someone that went 0-6'd in like 6 events consecutively? My mind just imploded!

It's primarily his 4th place finish in Dallas that has held him in pool play.
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Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 17 2011 04:13 GMT
#63
On October 17 2011 13:07 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 12:44 Lunares wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:39 Fubi wrote:
Wheres MVP?


MVP only played in one event and is therefore not in the top 16 points wise.

My question, do we know the BoX format here? Is just like all the other MLG events where it's Bo3 all the way through, except for extended series? I would assume it's that way.

Wait, so winning one event isn't worth more points than someone that went 0-6'd in like 6 events consecutively? My mind just imploded!


Remember Incontrol did get 4th in the very first event (dallas). So that's why he is so high. 4th place = 800 points, 1st place = 1200 points. Incontrol only has 1270 points because he got 4x really bad places for another 470 points.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 17 2011 04:16 GMT
#64
On October 17 2011 13:12 Denizen[9] wrote:
Why isnt mvp in top 16

Cause he only won 1 event and while some of the others didn't win 1, they attended more often and placed relatively well more consistently. Remember it works this way because MLG wants to encourage repeat performance, not just one great one.
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
October 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#65
On October 17 2011 13:05 Datum wrote:
Wait... so IdrA will most likely have to play MC again? Holy shit, what awful luck for him (even though everyone else seems to be able to crush MC)


I don't think this is likely at all to be honest. I think Bomber can beat MC no problem, and you have to assume whoever comes out of the open bracket will be a major threat as well and could easily get to Idra too.

I'd predict seeing Idra/Bomber before Idra/MC. Either way, I don't like making the comment, "bet Idra didn't want the #1 seed now.." It is random who you end up with, so you always want to be the #1 seed if possible sometimes luck doesn't always work out but still. Plus if he beats MC, the theory is his next round should be an easier game than if he was the #2 seed. Either way, a tournament like this when you are down to the final 8 or so players they are all hard games.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#66
whats the prize distribution?
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#67
I like the way this tournament format looks. Some massive talent in the top 16. The open bracket will probably once again become even stronger considering the nice up in the prize pool. Very excited for this to begin.
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
October 17 2011 04:22 GMT
#68
On October 17 2011 13:21 jjhchsc2 wrote:
whats the prize distribution?


1st $50,000
2nd $25,000
3rd $15,000
4th $10,500
5th $7500
6th $5250
7th $3750
8th $3000
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
October 17 2011 04:22 GMT
#69
Oh man MVP must be pissed right now. I'm sure the only reason he went to that sole MLG and won it is so he could qualify for Providence as a top seed, otherwise the 5k$ prizepool is laughable for a player of his stature. Now he doesn't even get top 16 due to poor point system (imo).
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
October 17 2011 04:23 GMT
#70
I don't like this format very much. It is good that repeated good performances in MLGs are rewarded, but it also makes it nearly impossible for anyone else to win.
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 17 2011 04:23 GMT
#71
On October 17 2011 13:21 jjhchsc2 wrote:
whats the prize distribution?

Liquipedia seriously has the answer to almost every question related to MLG Providence you could possibly have.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 17 2011 04:23 GMT
#72
Don't the players in Pool Play still maintain an advantage in ranking because they skip open bracket from the previous MLGs?
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 17 2011 04:24 GMT
#73
On October 17 2011 13:22 King.Crimson wrote:
Oh man MVP must be pissed right now. I'm sure the only reason he went to that sole MLG and won it is so he could qualify for Providence as a top seed, otherwise the 5k$ prizepool is laughable for a player of his stature. Now he doesn't even get top 16 due to poor point system (imo).

I doubt thats the only reason he went.

I think it has much more to do with the fact that his entire trip was paid for and he wasn't in the GSL anymore. Why the hell wouldn't he go, see some of his fans and maybe win some money?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 17 2011 04:25 GMT
#74
On October 17 2011 13:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Don't the players in Pool Play still maintain an advantage in ranking because they skip open bracket from the previous MLGs?

Liquipedia seriously has the answer to almost every question related to MLG Providence you could possibly have.
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
October 17 2011 04:25 GMT
#75
that is a sexy top 16
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
October 17 2011 04:26 GMT
#76
On October 17 2011 13:22 King.Crimson wrote:
Oh man MVP must be pissed right now. I'm sure the only reason he went to that sole MLG and won it is so he could qualify for Providence as a top seed, otherwise the 5k$ prizepool is laughable for a player of his stature. Now he doesn't even get top 16 due to poor point system (imo).


I doubt this. He was invited, his expenses were payed for by MLG, he got to attend a tournament in another country for free and won the top prize. Just because he's won a lot of money doesn't mean attending a $5k top prize tourney for free is laughable. Not to mention exposure for himself and his team. I'm also sure he could figure out pretty easily he couldn't get seeded into the finals only attending once. ALSO he got first place which means MLG invited him back for a second one and he declined so he had the chance to return for free which would have basically guaranteed him a spot in the finals top-16 so I doubt he's "pissed right now"
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#77
On October 17 2011 13:16 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:12 Denizen[9] wrote:
Why isnt mvp in top 16

Cause he only won 1 event and while some of the others didn't win 1, they attended more often and placed relatively well more consistently. Remember it works this way because MLG wants to encourage repeat performance, not just one great one.


You mean repeat attendance not performance...
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
October 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#78
heh idra vs mc again
byah!
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
October 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#79
This fits with the usual MO of MLG events: a really goddamn confusing bracket. Can't we just have like a normal top 32 elimination bracket or something like the GSL that makes sense to me?

And this deal with the points seems to say that it's more important to MLG to make sure that people who show up all the time play in the later rounds instead of people who perform really well. Especially since the level of talent in the whole top 16 and the players we would expect to play in the open bracket will both be very high, so I don't see a need to make some people in the open bracket play 10 extra matches to have a chance of winning the tournament.
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andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
October 17 2011 04:28 GMT
#80
It's a kooky bracket to round off a kooky year for MLG. I have loved/hated their open -> pool play system this season and think from an entertainment point of view the main season bracket totally works even though the seeding was too static.

There's not going to be a lot to see of the top ranked players because this bracket is substituting out pool play, that exists to keep the main stage content high from day one, for direct seeding. Seeds 1-4 won't even make an appearance on stream until Sunday. That's going to make for a different experience both at home and at the venue this time around. I hope it's not going to lead to a total anti climax of an event - as most MLG Grand Finals have been so far.

I will be very surprised if one of the top four seeds doesn't take top prize. IdrA, HuK, Naniwa or MMA have only to win four (or five) Bo3s to take $50,000 - let that sink in.
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