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On October 09 2011 12:40 positron. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 12:30 hunger wrote:On October 09 2011 11:46 Micket wrote:
I don't mind any of them, but the lack of knowledge of HD is kinda annoying. I don't understand this feeling about HD. He isn't the best caster, but he's a better player and more knowledgeable SC2er than anybody but PU or the guy from Dignitas. Like, levels on levels on levels ahead of CatsPajamas and djWheat (who are both better casters, but far less knowledgeable). He is the better player but he sure doesn't show off any of his knowledge while casting. Also he is the king of over exaggerating things. Two scenarios that I remember: 1. A game in IPL qualifer: player A gained a big advantage and managed to lose it. HD "OMG he is about to throw away the biggest lead in the history of starcraft!!!!!!" PU "I don't know about that ..." 2. Some foreign Zerg player that once beat somebody in Code A and HD went "by beating player X he certainly established himself as one of the greats" PU "I don't know if you could call him one of the greats yet"
Yeah, I have to agree. I saw three games last night where HD said they were the greatest games he had ever seen...best come-back he had ever seen. I don't mind hype and a bit of spice in casting, but after making such statements so often it loses its appeal, and makes it feel as if e-sports is "reaching" for viewers.
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I hope that IPL 4 will bring some of the better casters like tastosis, day9 or wolf. I really can't enjoy the casting of the IPL in house casters, but I just mute them and throw on some music and still have an enjoyable time. I also feel like there are some pro players who wouldn't mind joining in on the casting for a match or two to provide some much needed analysis, which would be awesome.
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On October 09 2011 11:42 Cel.erity wrote:
Wheat and Apollo are simply the two best casters at the event, and they also have a nice chemistry with each other, so in my eyes it's no contest.
I have to say I'm a huge anti-fan of the usual trio of IPL casters, but Doa and CatsPajamas worked surprisingly well. It seems Doa is capable of quite intelligent commentary when he's not being overshadowed by Wolf or interrupted by Moletrap. CatsPajamas has always been a decent color commentator, so it's nice to see that Doa could fill the analysis role. Plus, they're freaking hilarious.
HD and PainUser though...I don't even know, man. I like PainUser when he casts with DjWheat, but it seems like whenever he's alongside someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, he starts slacking off and acting like a totally different person to get on their level. In my opinion this is the worst casting duo in all of SC2 history. HD says stupid stuff, PainUser rolls with it, nobody benefits.
This.
It's also funny when Doa make s a stupid joke, and then says "...and now they're all like 'It really is Doa!'" :D
HD pains me though...
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The casters of this bunch that I like to hear include Doa, Apollo, and Wheat.. therefore the only combo I like is Apollo/Wheat.
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simple really
Apollo and Wheat
Doa and Cat was a good surprise though
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On October 09 2011 11:42 Cel.erity wrote:
. HD says stupid stuff, PainUser rolls with it, nobody benefits.
Yes. Painuser is a good commentator, however teamed with HD he lowers his standard and dumbs it down a lot.
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HD and Painuser are better just because DJ wheat pulls the level down.
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On October 09 2011 13:04 LuCkeY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 11:42 Cel.erity wrote:
. HD says stupid stuff, PainUser rolls with it, nobody benefits. Yes. Painuser is a good commentator, however teamed with HD he lowers his standard and dumbs it down a lot.
I beg to differ. I don't think Painuser is a good commentator at all.
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I watched HD when I first got into SC2 and liked him, but right now, I just can't stand him >.>
I feel bad for thinking that way, but HD just uses so many silly phrases and "predictions" ("I foresee a new way Zerg is going to be played" anyone?). Painuser is a great dude, absolutely love him on Inside the Game, and his casting is pretty nice as well, in my opinion. However, he really can't "carry" the duo without hogging all the space... Therefore, muted.
CatsPajamas and Doa I really have no opinion about, but I just felt that somehow they weren't for me. Now that I've read this thread, I realize that maybe I should've given them a chance. Still, they were muted.
DjWheat and dApollo however... Were fucking awesome.
First of all, everyone who cried about dApollo supposedly "mis-pronouncing" Puma can go stuff it. I mean really, who doesn't love Artosis when he says eyedra instead of IdrA? Same thing, different flare. I especially liked the way he kept biting his fist during intense action. What a baller.
And DjWheat was simply brilliant. Especially during moments where he transferred to his "aroused" voice (as I call it, lol) that he uses on Kings of Tin. Remember the part where he said something along the lines of "I really wanna see those banelings connect"? I sure do, and I added a mental bad word before "connect" ^_^
So yeah, needless to say that they were NOT muted. They were awesome.
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Wheat and Apollo for sure, though I enjoyed the other casters as well. Wheat/PainUser would be pretty sweet too.
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DJWheat and Apollo. The other 2 casters are just average, although Painuser has his lulzy moments
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Disliked djWheat's casting before but with dApollo, pieces for puzzle come together and perfectly fits the whole thing. I love it. I enjoy Wheat's casting and he has been doing an extremely good job.
Apollo is awesome as well, thanks for entertaining for whole day 
Best thing about their casting is down to earth, pure SC2 and match analysing. No major mistakes/flaws. Good job, keep it up !!!
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On October 09 2011 11:49 TheOne85 wrote:
Painuser is just not a caster... I am not sure what he can do to improve, unfortunately. He would have to relearn his entire vocabulary and way of talking to be entertaining on that stage..
Wheat and apollo by far.
Painuser just talks too much, and talks over HD. I would really enjoy him as a caster if the fixed those issues.
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Wheat and Apollo because of Wheat
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I didn't end up catching a lot of this. But Cat and Doa were pleasantly good when I watched them. The other two combos seemed good, but somehow the majority of what little I watched ended up being CatDoa.
No general complaints, then again I'm a viewer that appreciates what I get and doesn't mute people because I have some odd sense of entitlement for hours on end of flawless casting.
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I like all of them tbh, but if i have to choose a favourite it would have to be cpj and doa. I've never seen doa cast before, but found his style really refreshing and the jokes he made were really clever and kept me chuckling.
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I actually really really like all three duos, but since can only choose one id'say with DjWheat and dApollo.
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DjWheat and dApollo are great. Really balanced casters with good knowledge and good for laughs as well.
I'm trying to find a nice way of putting how I feel about HD, but I can't really. So I will just say that I prefer to mute the stream whenever he casts.
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On October 09 2011 13:10 CrucialSC wrote:
First of all, everyone who cried about dApollo supposedly "mis-pronouncing" Puma can go stuff it. I mean really, who doesn't love Artosis when he says eyedra instead of IdrA? Same thing, different flare.
Apollo pronounces it the way it's pronounced in the UK.
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