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All 3 combos were terrific in my opinion.
Doa surprisingly works incredibly well with Catspajamas. Hell I'd go as far as to send the two to Korea to cast the GSL instead of Moletrap.
HD actually has gamesense and Painuser complements him well. I find HD's ecstatic nature contrasted very well with Painuser's more monotonous and calm minded casting style.
Lastly, of course djWHEAT is just flat out amazing. dApollo has always been decent, and the two together make a great team.
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Now that the IPL 3 has concluded, get your final votes in for your favorite Caster Duo!
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They were all excellent, thanks! 
They should all stop using "gamer tags" and start using real names though. Nothing makes me so awkward as hearing d.Apollo saying something like "What do you think, Dj Wheat?". They could also learn something from "Mr Bitter & Rotterdam" and stop agreeing with EVERYTHING that the other commentator says.
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I don't get why people are crying about hd's lack of knowledge. He's the play by play caster in that combo, and in my opinion he's excellent.
catspajamas was a pleasant surprise.
all-in-all, I really like all three caster combos.
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Doapajamas was pretty good, surprisingly good, actually. I had no idea Doa was going to cast it till the first day of the event.
ApolloWheat was awesome. I dont even need to get into details, they are both one of the best on what they do. Apollo, especially, is always a pleasure to hear his play-by-play analysis.
HDUser was the same of we are used to. They are great, dont get me wrong, but the other two caster combos were more enjoyable.
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Doapajamas suprisingly is alot better than i thought. Probably because Moletrap seems annoying to me.
ApolloWheat. God i love this combo. Wheat is just awesome and never makes things awkward and apollo is so interesting and analytical and knows like all the background of the players.
HDUSer. They are trying but they are abit too corny and too much shameless plugs. Its as if they just read the textbook on how to be a caster and then decide to start casting at a 'pro level' instead of going in not knowing how to cast and learn step by step to become interesting and entertaining and therefore it seems forced and less natural flow.
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Apollo / djWheat without a doubt are the best in combo and standalone rating. I dont always watch ipl but when i do i watch it muted. Hd and Painuser espesially when they are together soud like those highschoolers who think they are cool and highfiving each other over a terrible joke, What bothers me is why so many people say you are a jerk just for expressing your opinion about a caster? Also would like to hear PSY in a live event for once.
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djWHEAT & dApollo were the best casters there for sure, HDStarCraft & PainUser as level below the other two duo. I mean they were OK, but i enjoyed the other two a lot more.
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APOLLO best british man in the future foREVER
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I think Doa and CatsPajamas were very good during this event. DOA doesn't have the most knowledge about the game, but there's just something about him that I really like. CatsPajamas I was never really too fond of, but I acknowledge the fact that he's a good caster and I think it's mostly just personal preference. They were a good combo. I just wanted to comment on those two, mostly because of DOA, I just wish he didn't recieve so much shit, he's just so nice some times.  Good job to the other casting duos aswell, but I really don't like to rate casters.
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I'm usually not keen on the usual IPL casters. I'm not really keen on the usual NASL casters either. Everybody seemed alot more impressive at this event though, especially PainUser who seemed alot more relaxed. Apollo and Wheat were the best though, both are always awesome.
I like that this thread exists. As long as the critism isn't flamish and rude, I think theres a place for legit discussion whether it be positive feedback or negative feedback. Pretending everything is amazing and the best it could be means nobody really wins. If the casters who were there read this thread I'm sure it'll help them improve (if they need to).
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The observing was plain bad sometimes.
BUT everything else was nice/good .
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dApollo and djWHEAT were the by far best caster combo for me. Other than that I actually prefer HD and PainUser over DoA and CatsPajamas.
But all casters did a good job at this event.
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Apollo was brilliant and I was already a huge fan of djwheat. Cats was better than normally imo, doa was ok. PU and HD... I don't know, there was just something wrong there imo.
Edit: The obsing was pretty terrible. Think Apollo and djwheats obsing was ok, but I was on the verge of yelling at my screen pretty often(I guess this isn't the place to mention the playershots in middle of battles, but that had me raging too).
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On October 10 2011 11:47 nuMi22 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 11:43 Zeri wrote:On October 10 2011 11:40 nuMi22 wrote: Everyone needs to stop hating so bad, HD is a fucking boss. This 'community' is shameful sometimes. I just want to be very very clear. Just because I (or anyone) think someone may be awkward in a live setting and not be completely clear and confident when they speak, does not mean I am hating on them. Person A is stumbling over words and it is distracting from the game =/= I don't like this person You're not speaking for everyone in this thread. A lot of the complaints are unnecessary, unconstructive and generally abusive. That kind of thing directed at someone who has done so much for Starcraft II and tries constantly to improve is just out of place and wrong. If you don't like his casting then people need to give constructive criticism, because no one in this thread has done as much for the game as him, not even close.
Saying that someone has a severe lack of knowledge and speaks awkwardly is constructive criticism, what more do you want? Nobody in this thread has insulted HD as a human being, only as a caster, and it's perfectly valid. Your attitude is generally wrong, as HD is a professional, being paid to do what he is doing, and people have a right to complain when they don't like it. If a plumber comes over to my house to fix a leak, tracks mud through my carpet, and ends up making the leak worse, I am damn well within my rights to complain even if it's my landlord who's paying the bill.
HD makes my enjoyment of games much worse, which is why I had to watch the entire IPL finals on mute, and he and the IGN staff should be aware that a significant portion of the community is of a similar opinion so that we don't have to see him in the future.
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First of all, I only saw 2 matches from Spanisiwa casted by HD and PainUser so i can't say anything about these two.
On the mainstage I always was so happy seeing djWHEAT and dApollo coming on stage. They are some level above cats and doa. Cats and doa may entertaining for some people (not for me) but they are so bad at casting: -They may hide all the GUI because they never watch the minimap anyway ->Missing a lot of drops, runbys hiding zerglings etc - Don't have a good game sence; They seem to belief that scouting can only done by sight (switching to player cam, "nope he didn't scout the double starpgate". WTF it's past the 10 minute mark an the Protoss doesn't have warpgate finish, so what do you think is up there, Kiwikaki forget warpgate research?(Kiwi vs Stephano G3)) - Doesn't inform about the players before a match (Inori for example) -> As a viewer I want to know who is playing there! dApollo did a great job and always had some facts about the not so well known players.
Also the smalltalk in the breaks was not so good from doa/cats). I loved dApollo for open up the last replay and said what was up there instead of theorycrafting about stuff.
tl;dr; djWHEAT (You have to like this guy <3) and dApollo was a great casting team, cats and doa not so
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Didn't see Painuser and HD cast much but from watching them throughout the season i think they make a good casting duo. THem being good friends provides a very friendly and personal atmosphere to the cast, kinda like Tastosis.
Wheat and Apollo are were very professional and did a really good job.
DOA, hes ok, hes a little funny some times.
Now...Cats...Pajamas.... Why is he popular? He's way too eager to talk that he often dismisses what other casters say just so he can come with his own input. He's got bad analysis and is many times wrong in his predictions. His "waiting for game dance" is not fit for a 24 year old, not even a nerd. If anything, it's just really annoying. Stop making a fool out of yourself and cast the game damnit. That's just my two cents on it.
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No more HD please... the guy just doesn't know a lot about starcraft 2 it seems. Great for publicity i'm sure but i'd rather have seen DJwheat talk about the finals, or any experienced caster.
One thing I'd say about all the casters is that their play by play is BAD. a lot of times they would prattle on about some potential possibility, like, "Zerg could transition into mutalisks, blah blah blah" as a third hatchery is being taken and there is a roach battle in the mid. A stronger focus on play by play and better in-game observers would make the next event EVEN BETTER.
The production quality was fantastic but I wish this event had a few more "brainy" casters/observers.
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I'm not sure I know Apollo and Wheat (at least by name associated with voice) but I watched most of the IPL1&2 games and I really liked all the casters - what they had to say and how they sounded. HD is the only one I follow on Youtube though.
Also since I'm already here, slightly offtopic: I watched a few GSL Oct2011 (?) games recently casted by Artosis and Tasteless and it was just painful for me. I must be missing something huge because I totally don't understand why everyone considers them so good. They don't seem to have much synergy, don't seem all that excited about the game, and most of their game comments (from what I heard) is just very, very basic description of what is happening on screen. ("Now he is taking a gas"...10seconds later of saying nothing... "now he is making an overlord") o_O Maybe I just missed their better casts.
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I really liked dj&apollo and doa&cats but did not like painuser and hd together that much. I dont know if it was just the chemistry between those 2 or that i do not really enjoy there style of humor that much. Esp wired for me was how hd tried to show himself as a stephano expert in the final, which apart from prob beeing wrong, did not came over that way, by what he said.. Plz dont hate..i really enjoyed the lvl of casting in general over the whole event and think even hd and pain did a decent job!
ps. I think esp. Apollo really stepped up in this Tour., he is developing into an AWESOME caster, really analytic but still funny and handsome!
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