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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
October 10 2011 14:44 GMT
#341
apollo was the most impressive caster to me at this event

does anyone know why day9 didnt come? he wasnt invited as a caster?
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
October 10 2011 14:46 GMT
#342
On October 09 2011 11:48 Superpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 11:46 Micket wrote:
I don't mind any of them, but the lack of knowledge of HD is kinda annoying.

If anything catspajamas has the most lack of knowledge, he is gold - diamond last i saw and HD is a master league player..



yea, catspajamas is a total noob, both strategically and on the execution end. Also doesn't know much about progaming in general, the only reason he's a decent caster is his voice/energy.


I personally think that Artosis Tasteless and Day9 make the best casting trio ever, and need to do more shows together!

tl:dr screw casting duos, 3 way all the way
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 10 2011 14:53 GMT
#343
On October 10 2011 23:44 MorroW wrote:
apollo was the most impressive caster to me at this event

does anyone know why day9 didnt come? he wasnt invited as a caster?


They said Day9 had other commitments and was invited, but declined.

DJ Wheat and Apollo were the most enjoyable of all the casters. Catspajamas and Doa came close with their banter and interaction - however they didn't get as much love because they casted the earlier games (less people). HD and Painuser were pretty terrible - they were pretty biased for Stephano, which normally isn't a bad thing, but couple that with their lack of insight in the games meant that they made a lot of odd comments as to who was winning.
Yargh
chrisgreg
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada61 Posts
October 10 2011 15:27 GMT
#344
DJ and Apollo easily the best, knowledge experience and professionalism
Supporting Team EG and Team IM
Coopa826
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany161 Posts
October 10 2011 15:28 GMT
#345
How can you say HD has no knowledge about the game?
His master league player. He streams on TL and he competes at MLG.
he knows more than 85% of the people posting here.

HD > Catspajamas < DoA < DjWheat > Painuser

So my ranking would be DjWheat, Doa, HD and the two remaining last place. sry
Therefore my vote goes to HD because as far as i see it he does not get the respect he deserves
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
October 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#346
HD just says things that are completly wrong sometimes and at first its just ok he made a misstake, but it happens over and over in every single game

I mean if he wants to be a play by play caster do it but dont try to be analitical and fail horibly at it

lol at people saying HD has the most game knowledge behind painuser, appolo actualy does reaserch about the players and their playstlye unlike HD saying hero is a passive macro protoss, I mean come on -.-
Coopa826
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany161 Posts
October 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#347
HD just says things that are completly wrong sometimes and at first its just ok he made a misstake, but it happens over and over in every single game

I mean if he wants to be a play by play caster do it but dont try to be analitical and fail horibly at it

lol at people saying HD has the most game knowledge behind painuser, appolo actualy does reaserch about the players and their playstlye unlike HD saying hero is a passive macro protoss, I mean come on -.-


People who say HD has more knowledge than maybe apollo or whatever are dumb. But people who say HD is a bad caster are equally dumb my friend.

Look at all those amateur casters on youtube. You will be like facepalming 24/7 coz of how bad they are.
I like Tastosis more. I like Day [J]Wheat more. But HD is not bad at all.
Hell, even day9 makes a lot of mistakes, sometimes even more than hd but people dont concentrate on day9's mistakes, they enjoy the casting.
The way people watch painuser or hd or pajamas is wrong. They are only concentrating on how many mistakes they make and how many wrong things they say.
Just enjoy them casting an awesome tournement ffs
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 10 2011 16:26 GMT
#348
On October 11 2011 00:57 Coopa826 wrote:
Show nested quote +
HD just says things that are completly wrong sometimes and at first its just ok he made a misstake, but it happens over and over in every single game

I mean if he wants to be a play by play caster do it but dont try to be analitical and fail horibly at it

lol at people saying HD has the most game knowledge behind painuser, appolo actualy does reaserch about the players and their playstlye unlike HD saying hero is a passive macro protoss, I mean come on -.-


People who say HD has more knowledge than maybe apollo or whatever are dumb. But people who say HD is a bad caster are equally dumb my friend.

Look at all those amateur casters on youtube. You will be like facepalming 24/7 coz of how bad they are.
I like Tastosis more. I like Day [J]Wheat more. But HD is not bad at all.
Hell, even day9 makes a lot of mistakes, sometimes even more than hd but people dont concentrate on day9's mistakes, they enjoy the casting.
The way people watch painuser or hd or pajamas is wrong. They are only concentrating on how many mistakes they make and how many wrong things they say.
Just enjoy them casting an awesome tournement ffs

This is so true. I think hd and pain was the best combo online leading into ipl3 but their performance live was a bit subpar. Whereas apollo and wheat who have done so many live events now are able to perform at 100pc wherever they go.

Its not like tastosis is always 100percent either. Ipl 3 and this code s group stage was a bit low. The difference is that when artosis calls bio tvt a gimmicky temporary build he doesnt get ostracised as wrong and instead gets a cult following to spew those words in lr threads over and over.
gnoarch
Profile Joined October 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 16:51:48
October 10 2011 16:50 GMT
#349
I didn't like HD/Painuser especially as HD made one false remark after another.
E.g. in the Stephano-TheSTC game on Shakuras he was like
"OMG it's impossible for Stephano to hold his 3rd, in fact this could be game"
just as stephano rushes out and roflstomps the terran army.
This is just one random fail example ... once they missed that stephano triple expanded, complaing about why stephano does not expand...

any casters make mistakes of course and probably it's impossible not to miss some drops and not to make a stupid comment once in a while. But for me the fail frequency of HD/Pain is too high...
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
October 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#350
This one is tough, I really enjoyed DoA's casts as well as dAppolo's...
I wished they casted together at some point
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
October 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#351
HD/Painuser duo was decent and i expect them to get better in their next live event, tbh they mostly suffered from the comparaison with Apollo & Wheat.

Overall the casting during that event was pretty damn good
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
October 10 2011 16:59 GMT
#352
The biggest problem I have with HD's commentary is blings......... and crack upgrade. Seriously. how hard is it to say crackling.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
October 10 2011 17:00 GMT
#353
I like wheat & apollo. Doa and Cats was pretty good as well. I'm no fan of HD and Painuser.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#354
On October 11 2011 01:26 T0fuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:57 Coopa826 wrote:
HD just says things that are completly wrong sometimes and at first its just ok he made a misstake, but it happens over and over in every single game

I mean if he wants to be a play by play caster do it but dont try to be analitical and fail horibly at it

lol at people saying HD has the most game knowledge behind painuser, appolo actualy does reaserch about the players and their playstlye unlike HD saying hero is a passive macro protoss, I mean come on -.-


People who say HD has more knowledge than maybe apollo or whatever are dumb. But people who say HD is a bad caster are equally dumb my friend.

Look at all those amateur casters on youtube. You will be like facepalming 24/7 coz of how bad they are.
I like Tastosis more. I like Day [J]Wheat more. But HD is not bad at all.
Hell, even day9 makes a lot of mistakes, sometimes even more than hd but people dont concentrate on day9's mistakes, they enjoy the casting.
The way people watch painuser or hd or pajamas is wrong. They are only concentrating on how many mistakes they make and how many wrong things they say.
Just enjoy them casting an awesome tournement ffs

This is so true. I think hd and pain was the best combo online leading into ipl3 but their performance live was a bit subpar. Whereas apollo and wheat who have done so many live events now are able to perform at 100pc wherever they go.

Its not like tastosis is always 100percent either. Ipl 3 and this code s group stage was a bit low. The difference is that when artosis calls bio tvt a gimmicky temporary build he doesnt get ostracised as wrong and instead gets a cult following to spew those words in lr threads over and over.


I am sure nobody in the right mind is asking for HD to be 100%. Nobody is. The prevalent consensus is that he made too many obvious mistakes that got to the viewers.
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
October 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#355
Well i can't pick a favorite-combo tbh, but i really enjoyed listening to DOA the most.
He got jokes that remind me of tasteless in the old days (hope i do not step some feet by that one)

it is not that i didnt like catspajamas cast i just think d'apollo would be better in combo with DOA.
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Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 10 2011 17:14 GMT
#356
With an event like this, it's more important to have a caster that isn't annoying rather than providing game-shaking revelations.

1) Catzpjs was the best IMO...very smooth, very professional.

2) HD was next best. As long as he isn't getting high on red bull and trying to be funny with stupid comments, he is actually really good. If he focuses on being professional he could be an amazing commentator.

3) Apollo was next best...nothing special...sometimes annoying and melodramatic, but mostly not bad.

4) PainUser...he's improved a lot, but he needs to avoid getting sidetracked off of starcraft and have a more up-tempo delivery. Seems too relaxed, casual IMO. He did a really good job with his interview of Spades though.

5) DOA...felt like he talked down to the players and viewers...almost snarky. Not a fan.

6) DJWheat. He stuck out like a sore thumb and was the only commentator I considered muting the stream. He's one of these guys that thinks that game isn't exciting enough, so they'll improve the stream by screaming and pretending to get excited over the smallest thing. I find that soo annoying...
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
October 10 2011 17:19 GMT
#357
Casting is such a huge deal in sports. Sometimes the casting is so bad I can barely enjoy myself. I know it sounds elitist, but it's so true. As eSports gets older, and more mature, I sincerely hope the vast majority of casters are retired or guest pros.

dApollo is a superb caster.

HD is a terrible caster.

Painuser is actually really good as well, but is being weighed down by HD is a big, big way. PU, you will never break out as a 'stellar caster' as long as you're casting with HD. But you are on that level, for sure.

I know DjWheat is a fan favorite, but I've never really taken to him that much, although I will admit I thought he did a fine job for IPL3. This, and he was obviously being carried by dApollo who impressed me quite a bit.

It's been said so many times in this thread, that HD's in-game talking is just too much to handle. Almost everything he says is either just wrong, or is actually contradictory to the actual gamestate you're observing. It is so jarring to hear him say thing like, "Stephano is going to have map control for a long time now ..." while, at the same time we're hearing the ridiculous commentary, his slow lings, product of a gassless FE, are getting roasted by Helions on-screen.

His name is familiar, yes. He's got tenure, yes. But that's it. He's not a good caster, and in my opinion, has shown no signs that he is or will get better (more tolerable). He looks too young, he acts young, his commentary is not accurate, and his excitement is so disingenuous it makes me cringe.

I used to similarly dislike Doa. But lately, Doa has been improving greatly. Since it looks like Doa is here to stay, I'm glad he is taking the training in Korea seriously. It's showing, man. Keep it up.

If IPL wants an energetic shoutcaster, get Husky. Husky is infinitely better than HD in every conceivable way.

Sorry, HD. I know this sounds harsh, but I'm just being honest. It would go a long way for me if two simple things changed: (1) let the game inspire excitement in your commentary, don't force it. (2) Leave the analysis to your partner. All of it.

I don't have a very well-formulated opinion of CatsPajamas other than his pseudo-intellectual commentary style sounds about as genuine as HD's shoutcasting. </overly bitter rant>
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kituatembo
Profile Joined September 2011
United States39 Posts
October 10 2011 17:25 GMT
#358
any combo with DjWheat wins in my book exept for maby tasteosis.
Don't lose sight of the machine | kituatembo.627 masters
gnoarch
Profile Joined October 2011
32 Posts
October 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#359
On October 11 2011 02:19 TimeSpiral wrote:

If IPL wants an energetic shoutcaster, get Husky. Husky is infinitely better than HD in every conceivable way.




100% agree. Husky doesn't give deep insight in the mechanics of the matches but he has great energy and most importantly does not give fail analysis all the time
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
October 10 2011 17:48 GMT
#360
All 3 combos were excellent imo, but I threw my vote for DJwheat and Apollo. They mesh really well together and I likke Apollo's accent, lol. Also I had not seen too much of him before, but I was really impressed by Doa. Not only was his casting great but he was hilarious as well.
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