i was in a random 3v3 the other day with a guildie and we both noticed a hack coming from our partner. This was a blink micro that caught our eyes and from our pov, imposible to do.
Ill try to describe it, but plz take a look at the youtube video, and he replay i posted if you have the time.
The guy is a silver player doing stalkers and some zeals. around minute 20 of the game, oponents went all out on us on and was going to be just a GG and all, but we noticed the most pro blink micro that no human can posibly do, and ill tel you why.
The micro was done by a silver player that avg 30apms in the rest of the fight. This was done while he was looking at my base at some points as i show in my video. The guy was either selecting all his stalkers or selecting none. at no time he selected one by one to micro like a normal person. Pro players usually blink in groups when the stalker count is too high to manage them properly, this guy didnt. APMs went to 650-700 at most part of the fight.
Yeah the youtube link is broken or something, I don't think you uploaded it yet. And like you were saying I also doubt that this guy did all the blink micro, but yeah you can report it to the hack thread here on TL, however I doubt they will think the guy is hacking, they often require like a dozen evidences.
Yep. Youtube link broken for me, too. "The URL contained a malformed video ID."
EDIT: Wow. He was certainly hacking, not because the micro was so good, but because he was controlling units that weren't selected. I think it's pretty clear that's not possible without hacking.
Yeah that's definitely not legit. Everything the OP said is accurate, and each stalker that blinks back also instantly gets an attack move command to go back in. The script/hack/whatever is also messing up cuz it's blinking stalkers onto that high ground then they have a long walk to get back into the fight lol
awwww man.. SC2 is starting to look like counter strike source aka cheats everywhere. This makes me so sad. I wasnt sure when i saw it firsttime. However when you rewinded again it was so clear...
On October 07 2011 06:04 carloselcoco wrote: Now, that it is obvious that he is hacking, could I ask you a question? How did you get the SC2 client in Spanish for the US server?
well i was in the latin american server before, when they merge it, we still have to use the latin american languages (pr or spanish)
im impressed some of you guys enjoy how it sounds, cuz it was the biggest thread in latam forums, how ppl didnt liked it and went to the us sever just cuz of that
There was an old hack around that did the same thing with roaches wasn't there? Hacks like this are so funny because they're so obvious, but people still get away with them so often it seems...
Click the link in Rulobs second post and watch it. He shows the guy isn't even looking at his army and he is doing perfect blink micro like you would see from AI, it is an obvious hack. Blizzard wouldn't need any other evidence.
On October 07 2011 06:07 teamamerica wrote: There was an old hack around that did the same thing with roaches wasn't there? Hacks like this are so funny because they're so obvious, but people still get away with them so often it seems...
Yep, burrow. Except they didn't unburrow after I believe.
On October 07 2011 06:06 Rulob wrote: well i was in the latin american server before, when they merge it, we still have to use the latin american languages (pr or spanish)
im impressed some of you guys enjoy how it sounds, cuz it was the biggest thread in latam forums, how ppl didnt liked it and went to the us sever just cuz of that
Well, most of us have never heard SC2 sounds in Spanish. I speak Spanish and cast in Spanish ( www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco ), but I had never heard SC2 in Spanish. Hence, my amusement xD
There was another thread here a while ago about a terran that did an instantaneous split in a perfect circle when seeing blings come, anyone have that link?
blizzard is probably waiting to see how many they can ban for this new hack that's out.
It's a micro bot. It's relatively common, I've seen it a few times before and they are available on easily found websites. Please post In the Hacker Database.
This is without a doubt a hack and people talking about sharing control etc clearly havn't even looked at the links provided. It's painfully obvious this guy is cheating.
there is also roach burrow hacks that work similar way, soon as a roach gets lower health it burrows, and comes back up after healed. There is auto-inject hacks for zerg, god only knows what all hacks are out there for sc2 already, but i have seen my share already and its a young game.
He said it's a 3v3, thus only 2 people (one of which is the person posting the video) is doing it. Also. you can tell who's "clicking" on the unit in replay mode. and you see it as the same color (light blue), and not red nor *darker* blue.
On October 07 2011 06:23 Zeevo wrote: what if he shared control?
Did you read the OP or the rest of the thread, or watch the video? OP states the other 2 players were both friends and the third player was a random individual, they weren't sharing control with him - they were the ones who noticed it. Also someone else already pointed out the same thing and several others have replied with the same information. The video also shows very clear signs of non-human decision making, like blinking onto high ground and then walking around through a ramp because of poor a-move AI. I don't think there have been many more clear examples of a hack than this
Pretty obvious that this is a cheat. You need to be looking at the screen to blink micro properly. Wireframe blinking is probably possible, but far and away less efficient.
shared control micro? blizzard UI replay bugs? its quite possible since they cant perfect out of date replays haha
but i do also believe its a script of some sort, each blink seems just as accurate as the last which additionally adding attack commands which bothers me the most
ì was gonna say 'hack whooo' and dismiss the game, but I actually think you are right. Too bad he was too weak to take advantage of the hack.
Another explanation is that he might be a Warcraft 3 player (joke, I saw his mouse movements, he was not blinking manually, it's either a hack or unknown to me move).
On October 07 2011 06:00 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yeah that's definitely not legit. Everything the OP said is accurate, and each stalker that blinks back also instantly gets an attack move command to go back in. The script/hack/whatever is also messing up cuz it's blinking stalkers onto that high ground then they have a long walk to get back into the fight lol
Holy shit! That blink micro is so pro that even a top level pro like tyler can't do it! oh wait...
oh thats not new, though search function might have failed you since it was actually used for burrow micro with roaches. Easy to spot out, since people boosted up on 700 apm every time an engagement took place. report him and move on.
Am I the only one that gets progressively more depressed with each one of those hacks coming out? I mean, perfect roach burrow micro bots, inject bots, blink bots, marine spreading bots, maphacks everywhere and drophack...
I've met MǂAdel on ladder on my smurf and he did use the same kind of hack. I won the game and I didn't see any strange things besides insanely good blink micro.
Since I won the game I didn't care. Now that I've seen the thread, I did check the replay and its the same thing. 400-600 APM while blinking with not even really looking at it.
This is his profile, but I don't want to give the replay to everyone, since its my smurf account. So if you do not believe in me, I did PM Kennigit and send him the replay ... I am also willing to give it to mods of Teamliquid, just not everyone.
Edit: To be more clear: I'm saying that Adelscott is being faked - not Adelscott is hacking!
On October 07 2011 06:00 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yeah that's definitely not legit. Everything the OP said is accurate, and each stalker that blinks back also instantly gets an attack move command to go back in. The script/hack/whatever is also messing up cuz it's blinking stalkers onto that high ground then they have a long walk to get back into the fight lol
Holy shit! That blink micro is so pro that even a top level pro like tyler can't do it! oh wait...
... very subtle. And yes it is most definitly hack. I have seen this hack before, and as you say nither he, or anyone else, select the stalkers as they blink back. And no, no player can do that, perfect blink macro while give atttack move command to each of them? that's just not possible. However I do think this goes in the hacker thread.
On October 07 2011 06:49 mTw|NarutO wrote: I've met MǂAdel on ladder on my smurf and he did use the same kind of hack. I won the game and I didn't see any strange things besides insanely good blink micro.
Since I won the game I didn't care. Now that I've seen the thread, I did check the replay and its the same thing. 400-600 APM while blinking with not even really looking at it.
This is his profile, but I don't want to give the replay to everyone, since its my smurf account. So if you do not believe in me, I did PM Kennigit and send him the replay ... I am also willing to give it to mods of Teamliquid, just not everyone.
Although I've not seen the replay, there is another Adel account in GM and it seems strange Adel would make a smurf with the same name. Here's the link to the Adel GM account.
On October 07 2011 06:07 teamamerica wrote: There was an old hack around that did the same thing with roaches wasn't there? Hacks like this are so funny because they're so obvious, but people still get away with them so often it seems...
What happened is that the zerg player would maintain pressed the Burrow hotkey and when he wanted to burrow one damaged roach he just had to click them individualy. In this case it would be almost impossible to do it with the same method because you would need to press blink hotkey and click to select a single stalker and then click again in ground behind and repeat for every stalker. No way he was doing it like that at that speed.
On October 07 2011 06:49 mTw|NarutO wrote: I've met MǂAdel on ladder on my smurf and he did use the same kind of hack. I won the game and I didn't see any strange things besides insanely good blink micro.
Since I won the game I didn't care. Now that I've seen the thread, I did check the replay and its the same thing. 400-600 APM while blinking with not even really looking at it.
This is his profile, but I don't want to give the replay to everyone, since its my smurf account. So if you do not believe in me, I did PM Kennigit and send him the replay ... I am also willing to give it to mods of Teamliquid, just not everyone.
Although I've not seen the replay, there is another Adel account in GM and it seems strange Adel would make a smurf with the same name. Here's the link to the Adel GM account.
So I'd like to hope the guy you played was a fake.
Yes. Sorry if that wasn't clear. The guy I played is a fake and hacker. He's in masters, thats why I linked the profile :-) The real Adel doesn't hack I guess.
On October 07 2011 06:07 teamamerica wrote: There was an old hack around that did the same thing with roaches wasn't there? Hacks like this are so funny because they're so obvious, but people still get away with them so often it seems...
What happened is that the zerg player would maintain pressed the Burrow hotkey and when he wanted to burrow one damaged roach he just had to click them individualy. In this case it would be almost impossible to do it with the same method because you would need to press blink hotkey and click to select a single stalker and then click again in ground behind and repeat for every stalker. No way he was doing it like that at that speed.
Report to Blizzard.
Oh yeah I know you can do wireframe burrowing but there was a hack out that did it for the zerg. Your roaches would be insane. People made a thread about that hack too:
They need to make this hack better so it dodges projectiles rather than just responds to damage. O wait, wrong thread. Blizzard might have a hard bloody time finding a counter for this since I can think of ways of programming something like this using pixel sampling without even touching the SC2 thread.
These hacks are kinda strange O_o I remember playing against a platinum guy who insisted that I would do a Bo3 with him. That seemed strange, because I did not see any point for doing that. Well, in the end I accepted that 'challange' and I 3:0'ed him but something looked fishy. When checked replay, at some times his APM peaked to 2700 in sc2 time lol. Didn't bother too much by analyzing the replay and simply reported him ...
Yeah the whole "I'm using the very best pro micro while not even looking at or selecting my units" is a bit of a dead giveaway. Oddly enough I don't mind this kind of a hack as much as, say, maphacking - what this hack lets him do here is theoretically possible for a person to do. Not that its justified or anything but for whatever reason I mind it less.
On October 07 2011 06:06 Rulob wrote: well i was in the latin american server before, when they merge it, we still have to use the latin american languages (pr or spanish)
im impressed some of you guys enjoy how it sounds, cuz it was the biggest thread in latam forums, how ppl didnt liked it and went to the us sever just cuz of that
On October 07 2011 07:13 Treadmill wrote: Yeah the whole "I'm using the very best pro micro while not even looking at or selecting my units" is a bit of a dead giveaway. Oddly enough I don't mind this kind of a hack as much as, say, maphacking - what this hack lets him do here is theoretically possible for a person to do. Not that its justified or anything but for whatever reason I mind it less.
You don't see to know what a hack is
Either way this will forever/always be in video games. The hacking aspect will always be used by the public. When his account is then banned he will then have to pay another $60 for the game, so there really isn't any use in worrying about this.
1st that so obvious that he hacked. No way a person could split all his marines at the same time. 2nd i absolutely lost it when he split his marines only to get slaughtered by zerglings XD A prime example of why hacks does not make people better players.
On the blink stalker micro, it feels like something like autoblock but for blink
On October 07 2011 07:12 Huragius wrote: These hacks are kinda strange O_o I remember playing against a platinum guy who insisted that I would do a Bo3 with him. That seemed strange, because I did not see any point for doing that. Well, in the end I accepted that 'challange' and I 3:0'ed him but something looked fishy. When checked replay, at some times his APM peaked to 2700 in sc2 time lol. Didn't bother too much by analyzing the replay and simply reported him ...
High APM is not a hack. I used to be able to hold my keys down and have 7200 APM EZPZ. So this was probably before the current patch.
On October 07 2011 07:44 HornyHydra wrote: Dark blue also has an APM spike when the stalkers are being blunk, what league is this OP?
it is the OP and OPs friend that is the cheating players allies he himself have attested that he did not participate in the micro of the blinking stalkers (via theoretical shared control), neither did his friend.
On October 07 2011 07:44 HornyHydra wrote: Dark blue also has an APM spike when the stalkers are being blunk, what league is this OP?
We are both platinum in 1v1, altho we play more groups and have diamonds and masters. Yea he does get some spikes but not abnormal, i do have 350apm spikes when im trying to micro and stuff too, not that it matters since the game was lost and even tho he was helping me rank in 3v3 i got a bronze... DAMN U AsFSkela! xD
On October 07 2011 06:04 carloselcoco wrote: Now, that it is obvious that he is hacking, could I ask you a question? How did you get the SC2 client in Spanish for the US server?
That's a very impressive and complex hack. You must report this to Blizzard immediately, as it's hard to detect things like this, especially in the upper leagues.
On October 07 2011 07:12 Huragius wrote: These hacks are kinda strange O_o I remember playing against a platinum guy who insisted that I would do a Bo3 with him. That seemed strange, because I did not see any point for doing that. Well, in the end I accepted that 'challange' and I 3:0'ed him but something looked fishy. When checked replay, at some times his APM peaked to 2700 in sc2 time lol. Didn't bother too much by analyzing the replay and simply reported him ...
High APM is not a hack. I used to be able to hold my keys down and have 7200 APM EZPZ. So this was probably before the current patch.
There's some stuff you can do to just spike your APM whenever you want. I know Thorzain can get it up to like 12000 if he wants to.
Really all we can do is report people and hope that Blizzard cares more about the SC2 ladder than they did about the WC3 ladder (toward the end of its life).
The funny thing about this hack is that the hackers will actualy loose alot of games and get stuck at 50-50 winstats like everyone else because this hack only gets u so far when your macro is shit :D. That sayed it suxx because people will now probably think u hack when u micro good.....
Dont Stalkers have that exact same behaviour in the custom game DesertStrike or whatever its called? Stalkers autoblink back and reengage, the guy just ported it over to Matchmaking somehow :S
On October 07 2011 08:26 features wrote: Dont Stalkers have that exact same behaviour in the custom game DesertStrike or whatever its called? Stalkers autoblink back and reengage, the guy just ported it over to Matchmaking somehow :S
Are we sure THIS wasnt a custom game?
... There's a different between a map script and a third party program that micros for you. And unless you just think the OP is making this up for shits (or you didn't read it at all) then there's no reason to doubt the existence of something like this.
This is really a shame .... if I was a pro gamer playing important money matches online things like this would really trouble me. Who knows whos legit and who isn't.
On October 07 2011 08:26 features wrote: Dont Stalkers have that exact same behaviour in the custom game DesertStrike or whatever its called? Stalkers autoblink back and reengage, the guy just ported it over to Matchmaking somehow :S
Its the second one i think, you can check ingame if you like too. Not trying to be smarth here, just trying to inform that something shitty is going on, and hope for blizzard to do something about it.
Micro hacks have existed for a long time. When that guy had the Immortal range/warpin hack, he also had a hack that auto forcefielded his ramp. He got the minimum required to always have a forcefield ready and just kept forcefielding forever.
On October 07 2011 08:39 Tump wrote: Micro hacks have existed for a long time. When that guy had the Immortal range/warpin hack, he also had a hack that auto forcefielded his ramp. He got the minimum required to always have a forcefield ready and just kept forcefielding forever.
Damn, it most look sexy FFing your own ramp 24/7 unintenionally
On October 07 2011 08:26 features wrote: Are we sure THIS wasnt a custom game?
Replay files have a "Game type" attribute which can be either ladder or custom. This replay file is showing this was a ladder game so we can be pretty sure.
On October 07 2011 07:12 Huragius wrote: These hacks are kinda strange O_o I remember playing against a platinum guy who insisted that I would do a Bo3 with him. That seemed strange, because I did not see any point for doing that. Well, in the end I accepted that 'challange' and I 3:0'ed him but something looked fishy. When checked replay, at some times his APM peaked to 2700 in sc2 time lol. Didn't bother too much by analyzing the replay and simply reported him ...
Came in here to mention the video that I saw on reddit a few days ago with the impossible marine split but I see it's already been posted. With these two examples just a few days apart it looks like there is some kind of new micro bot going around.
On October 07 2011 10:39 Medrea wrote: Totally legit.
That sick nerd baller blinks his stalkers by clicking on them in the control group pane and blinking them back EZPZ. While macroing at his home base.
40 APM all game to 700? No sweat, so he cares a lot about blink micro, why you gotta be hatin on him?
Yeah. You should all realize this was probably just HuK having some fun on his fake account, sipping coffee the entire game, and only getting serious in that very last battle.
In all seriousness, I'm actually curious to how you can make a hack like this. After all, you need a script that somehow finds the specific stalker being damaged, click b, click on a specific spot on the map (6 hexes behind or something), click a, and then click on another specific point on the map. All this without taking control from the player. Same story with the unending ff at ramp. You need to somehow target the sentries, click f and target the ramp in an interval, all while not interrupting the player.
I have no idea how you would even go about creating something like that =|
This reminds me of something from a Dustin Browder interview "Let's look at yet another situation, marauders against stalkers. If both sides a-move, clearly the marauder will win. However, if the stalker has blink, and uses blink well, the situation might turn out different as well. "
Even with a bot doing perfect blink this isn't true. TROLOLOL
Can you please post the replay somewhere? I kind of want to trick my friends into thinking that that guy is good. As they watch him and their doubt grows into "wtf, this has got to be the wrong replay," they will see the micro and just rofl.
I love how he has 40 APM for the first 18 minutes of the game and then it shoots up to 700 APM during blink stalker battle, which translates to almost 1000 APM in real time, which is 16 actions per second, yeah not likely.
On October 07 2011 10:39 Medrea wrote: Totally legit.
That sick nerd baller blinks his stalkers by clicking on them in the control group pane and blinking them back EZPZ. While macroing at his home base.
40 APM all game to 700? No sweat, so he cares a lot about blink micro, why you gotta be hatin on him?
Yeah. You should all realize this was probably just HuK having some fun on his fake account, sipping coffee the entire game, and only getting serious in that very last battle.
In all seriousness, I'm actually curious to how you can make a hack like this. After all, you need a script that somehow finds the specific stalker being damaged, click b, click on a specific spot on the map (6 hexes behind or something), click a, and then click on another specific point on the map. All this without taking control from the player. Same story with the unending ff at ramp. You need to somehow target the sentries, click f and target the ramp in an interval, all while not interrupting the player.
I have no idea how you would even go about creating something like that =|
I'm not a programmer, but the game has to know when your stalker is weak to be able to display to you that it is, so I don't know why it would be difficult to write a program to read the game's memory and blink a stalker back 180 degrees (or a variable amount of degrees) when it hits a certain threshold of health.
He was obviously clicking on the stalker portraits when their shields were gone and then using the minimap to blink, watching your base was just to show how pro he was. ^^
Blizzard ought to add a feature where it auto reports a game if the APM exceeds a certain amount.
There are two possible conclusions that dont include hacking. 1. Shared control and someone else was blinking or helping him blink. 2. His was clicking the stalker portraits and clicking the minimap to blink back.
On October 07 2011 11:15 Syben wrote: There are two possible conclusions that dont include hacking. 1. Shared control and someone else was blinking or helping him blink. 2. His was clicking the stalker portraits and clicking the minimap to blink back.
On October 07 2011 11:09 iHirO wrote: He was obviously clicking on the stalker portraits when their shields were gone and then using the minimap to blink, watching your base was just to show how pro he was. ^^
Blizzard ought to add a feature where it auto reports a game if the APM exceeds a certain amount.
If they do that, it becomes a trivial matter for scripts such as these to then artificially limit themselves to evade it. It's like the old anti-camping servers in FPS games. If someone wants to camp, but they get booted if they camp for 30 seconds straight, they then just camp for 25 seconds.
On October 07 2011 06:01 YosHGo wrote: awwww man.. SC2 is starting to look like counter strike source aka cheats everywhere. This makes me so sad. I wasnt sure when i saw it firsttime. However when you rewinded again it was so clear...
OMG I know exactly what you are talking about, i play on a FreeFrag Server, and its infested with hackers i thought about reporting them all, but i doubt it would matter. THIS, must not happen to SCII, if it does i'll be depressed . Seriously he wasn't even looking at his army the entire time.
On October 07 2011 10:58 danl9rm wrote: Can you please post the replay somewhere? I kind of want to trick my friends into thinking that that guy is good. As they watch him and their doubt grows into "wtf, this has got to be the wrong replay," they will see the micro and just rofl.
I have'nt seen the vids/replays but they could be just binding "click, B" to a mouse button:
1. "click, B" button on a stalker 2. "click, B" button on the ground 3. Stalker blinks, 2nd B does not register because blink is in cooldown. 4. Repeat as fast as possible
On October 07 2011 13:13 Don.681 wrote: I have'nt seen the vids/replays but they could be just binding "click, B" to a mouse button:
1. "click, B" button on a stalker 2. "click, B" button on the ground 3. Stalker blinks, 2nd B does not register because blink is in cooldown. 4. Repeat as fast as possible
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Don't have a macro mouse but that's how id do it.
check the video, i made it quick and painfull... as in a mexican trying to speak decent english painfull
There are 3 Stalkers throughout that battle where the Stalkers Blink to the high ground and are automatically A-moving back to the battle. Sweet SC2 cheats bro
On October 07 2011 13:13 Don.681 wrote: I have'nt seen the vids/replays but they could be just binding "click, B" to a mouse button:
1. "click, B" button on a stalker 2. "click, B" button on the ground 3. Stalker blinks, 2nd B does not register because blink is in cooldown. 4. Repeat as fast as possible
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Don't have a macro mouse but that's how id do it.
Commenting on a thread without watching the supplied replay/video on your second post... tsk tsk.
Just report him and know that he has a good couple months to keep cheating while blizzard waits to "ban in waves"
its deffinitely a hack, hes not looking at his stalkers, hes not selecting the ones that blink, he has 30 apm all game except the fight where its at 700, all the stalkers blink at the perfect timing when their shields hit zero, theres no shared control because u and ur team mate were on his team and you didnt help him do it
and with all the health bars it would be impossible for anyone to perfectly blink each individual stalker like that.
even with shared control you dont see any of his teammates selecting the stalkers. there would be the teammates color underneath the stalkers. there were none at all. definitely a cheat.
Watching the video, it is definitely a hack since there are multiple instances of near simultaneous blink across different ends of the concave and one of them is to a low ground and other to a high ground.
Also, the script he is using seems to have a blink logic check for when the shield go-to zero. Every single blink occurs when the stalker first time takes hull damage and below 0 shields, it seems to blink on CD.
definitely looks like some sort of auto blink back hack to me, coming from a toss player here. he wasn't even looking at the fight or selecting any units and they were blinking back one by one
On October 07 2011 13:13 Don.681 wrote: I have'nt seen the vids/replays but they could be just binding "click, B" to a mouse button:
1. "click, B" button on a stalker 2. "click, B" button on the ground 3. Stalker blinks, 2nd B does not register because blink is in cooldown. 4. Repeat as fast as possible
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Don't have a macro mouse but that's how id do it.
he never selects individual stalkers...its def a hack
This is just incredibly lame. NO ONE can blink that well against stimmed marauders of all things. At least there's an easy to way to prevent these kinds of micro bots - insta ban any players that peak insane amounts of APM.
What is kind of pathetic about this hack(and the hacker) is that he still lost the engagement. Shows you how much macro matters. But if this was in the hands of a competent player 0_0 anyways, Great find! kind of saddening to see this exist.
Oh didn't you guys read the patch notes for 1.4 carefully enough. It clearly stated that stalkers now auto blink away from the engagement and re-engage once shields are lost. This is totally legit! But seriously good work spotting it and reporting it accordingly, even though he won the game for you I know I probably wouldn't even notice it lol.
100% hack. i wish there was a way to "interigate" him in order to discover what hack he was using so blizz could stop the source of the cheat, instead of just the one instance of the cheat. perhaps they have something set up i dont know about. . .
there was mineral, select all units, and map hack back in brood war. once you select all units your APM will jump to like 1000APM depending on how many units were selected.
God damn it wish blizzard would get their act together and stop allowing this shit to happen...
I'm not just talking about making Warden not useless, but ban these fuckers. I played with (he was ally in random 3v3 game) an obvious maphacker, uploaded reply on hacker database end everyone agreed yet I check his profile several weeks later and he's still been playing games -.- no fucking idea why he wasn't just permabanned.
Just kidding. Obvious cheat is obvious. Would be interesting to see how long it takes for blizzard to ban this guy. Or if he is going to get banned at all.
On October 07 2011 07:12 Huragius wrote: These hacks are kinda strange O_o I remember playing against a platinum guy who insisted that I would do a Bo3 with him. That seemed strange, because I did not see any point for doing that. Well, in the end I accepted that 'challange' and I 3:0'ed him but something looked fishy. When checked replay, at some times his APM peaked to 2700 in sc2 time lol. Didn't bother too much by analyzing the replay and simply reported him ...
High APM is not a hack. I used to be able to hold my keys down and have 7200 APM EZPZ. So this was probably before the current patch.
Yes, me too. Particularly due to lag spikes. While there's no connection, the held key overflows the buffer with strokes that all get registered at once after the connection resumes.
It's a hack, no question, the most obvious giveaway is that his stalkers are getting blinked back up onto the ledge, which is obviously not something you'd do by choice. That, and the fact that sometimes this happens to two stalkers at once, and as previously mentioned they immediately get an attack move order afterwards.
Like many other people advices. Make a nice long email to blizzard with all the info you can gather, and hopefully blizzard will care enough to perma ban him.
Seeing this makes me happy I've never been a victim to hacks or cheats.....Or have I? O_o That would explain why I loose all the time LOL
I'm so sick of all these hacks coming up, especially in a competitive ladder such as sc2 compared to BW back then, I really hope the morons who make these hacks get caught one day. Here's to hoping. Great find, definitely a hack.
I have seen hack like this for burrowed roaches. Can't find the replay now, but some guy peaked at 2500 APM in a ZvZ while burrowing 40 roaches individually. Pretty messed up hack.
Haha that was nice. Hovering around 30 APM all game and then start blinking perfectly while looking at your base with some extra 600 APM. Quite ridiculous, you cannot even click on the front stalkers with all the air units above them.
Still I don't think that hack is that big of a deal. In situation where it matters (so PvP mostly), the unit count is low enough that you can actually perform this type of micro yourself quite decently. Maybe it can be a bit problematic in PvZ. But you have infestors and lings. (:D) In team games, you have 4 armies fighting each other with insane DPS and it's a fucking mess, so yeah, it's not really possible to do that and certainly gives you an edge. Obviously at low level it's game breaking.
My friend got 45 qverage apm, but his blink micro is insane he gets about 350-500 qpm while doing it legit, as I have seen it when I was at his house. But i doubt thiw guy is legit though
On October 07 2011 19:44 dagoodstuff wrote: guys he is watching the dark blue players point of view in the video and the guy with the stalkers is the light blue player i don't get how no one has pointed this out yet... and going to 600 AMP in a battle if all your doing is blink spamming is normal
Na, his mouse hovered over the light blue protoss and his name was Breno (same as the POV) and the dark blue terran was AsFSkela. The POV color looked weird for me too, so I checked.
On October 07 2011 19:44 dagoodstuff wrote: guys he is watching the dark blue players point of view in the video and the guy with the stalkers is the light blue player i don't get how no one has pointed this out yet... and going to 600 AMP in a battle if all your doing is blink spamming is normal
Normal? If you do it this way, you blink 3,33 stalkers every second to reach 600 apm. And he a-moved them back as soon as he blinked, so maybe only 2,22 stalkers + a-moving them back per second
On October 07 2011 19:44 dagoodstuff wrote: guys he is watching the dark blue players point of view in the video and the guy with the stalkers is the light blue player i don't get how no one has pointed this out yet... and going to 600 AMP in a battle if all your doing is blink spamming is normal
Normal? If you do it this way, you blink 3,33 stalkers every second to reach 600 apm. And he a-moved them back as soon as he blinked, so maybe only 2,22 stalkers + a-moving them back per second
On October 07 2011 06:01 Rulob wrote: jeez i will give up posting from my tablet... ill check it out as soon as i get to my house (1hour from now) but the video is up and running.
also eyeball, ill do that. thx for letting me know there is a forum for that cuz im new here.
I saw the youtube video and it really did seem like he was hacking. Thank you for showing me that cause i wasn't really sure how it would look. I think you should send this video to blizzard perhaps.
On October 07 2011 06:00 Liquid`NonY wrote: Yeah that's definitely not legit. Everything the OP said is accurate, and each stalker that blinks back also instantly gets an attack move command to go back in. The script/hack/whatever is also messing up cuz it's blinking stalkers onto that high ground then they have a long walk to get back into the fight lol
The Lord Nony himself has decreed him a hacker so that's all the evidence I need :D
Yeah, 99.99% sure its a hack. A few days ago i had an opponent who did the same thing. It was stalkers vs stalkers same upgrades. I had 38 he had 30 and he won with his crazy ass blink micro and had like 10 stalkers left
On December 28 2013 05:53 Blacky372 wrote: Yeah, 99.99% sure its a hack. A few days ago i had an opponent who did the same thing. It was stalkers vs stalkers same upgrades. I had 38 he had 30 and he won with his crazy ass blink micro and had like 10 stalkers left
EPT
ill check it out as soon as i get to my house (1hour from now) but the video is up and running.
