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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 19:34 GMT
#1
eSahara.net just announced (T)cArn's presence @ESWC, to represent Maroco.

I can't describe how excited I am to attend my first live event, I'll finally be able to play in a big international event after the huge disappointment when China denied me CPL. It has been really difficult for me to practice last months but I'll still make sure I can perform on the level my time in Korea got me at


It's a great opportunity to this french/marocan players, based in korea and has nowhere to train.

As a big fan of Souaïb i'm excited to see what's he's capable of, out of Korea, and i'm pretty sure he'll make the show, even he can't train since few month.

CARN HWAITING!



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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
October 03 2011 19:36 GMT
#2
Nice, hope he gets more opportunities!
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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
October 03 2011 19:36 GMT
#3
Yeah!! I love Carn! Very hardworking and great guy all in all. He's gonna do well! Fighting!!
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 03 2011 19:39 GMT
#4
I've always been a carn fan, so I hope he does well.
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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 19:40 GMT
#5
On October 04 2011 04:36 QTIP. wrote:
Nice, hope he gets more opportunities!

I agree, he's under rated, but he gives a lot to SC2 terran's techniques, TLO should approve ^^
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
October 03 2011 19:40 GMT
#6
cArn! Been a fan since I saw you stream the first time
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
October 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#7
big fan of carn! always wanted carn to make it into gsl

hopefully he does well
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#8
Good luck Carn!
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FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
October 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#9
Just because of his dedication everyone should be a fan of this guy

GL cArn
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 03 2011 19:44 GMT
#10
I've always wanted to see how good cArn really is. Glad we're gonna get the chance!
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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 19:44 GMT
#11
On October 04 2011 04:42 FaRess wrote:
Just because of his dedication everyone should be a fan of this guy

GL cArn

Agreed :D

It's important to him to see taht many ppl are behind him ^^

(don't forget to register to his fanclub :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243154 )
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
October 03 2011 19:46 GMT
#12
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.
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DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
October 03 2011 19:46 GMT
#13
go cArn! big fan
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 03 2011 19:46 GMT
#14
^ Yup. That's exactly why I love him.

There are very few people in the world that are willing to do what he has.

Man I sure hope he qualifies for Code A one day.
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 19:52 GMT
#15
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 03 2011 20:00 GMT
#16
On October 04 2011 04:52 RetoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^

That's really a shame :/
GOM should treat him better than that.
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
October 03 2011 20:09 GMT
#17
On October 04 2011 05:00 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 04:52 RetoX wrote:
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^

That's really a shame :/
GOM should treat him better than that.



They want foreigners for Code A exposure, cArn is a foreigner with 0 accomplishments virtually unknown technically. They can't have him sit in the gom house taking up space so they can't invite more top level foreigners who want to try Code A. No offense to cArn but just saying. In the theory of how Gom works, cArn doesn't deserve a Code A spot nor a spot in the house for longer then he already was.

Good luck
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
October 03 2011 20:11 GMT
#18
nice! hopefully we can how much he has improved
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:13:25
October 03 2011 20:12 GMT
#19
On October 04 2011 05:09 Candide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 05:00 Roggay wrote:
On October 04 2011 04:52 RetoX wrote:
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^

That's really a shame :/
GOM should treat him better than that.



They want foreigners for Code A exposure, cArn is a foreigner with 0 accomplishments virtually unknown technically. They can't have him sit in the gom house taking up space so they can't invite more top level foreigners who want to try Code A. No offense to cArn but just saying. In the theory of how Gom works, cArn doesn't deserve a Code A spot nor a spot in the house for longer then he already was.

Good luck

cArn goes deeper into the code A qualifications than any other foreigners.
Plus, other known foreigners are NOT staying at the gom house, they prefer to stay at teamhouses (Naniwa even said that he wouldnt want to return to the gom house at all). The gom house atm is a caster house for the most part.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
October 03 2011 20:14 GMT
#20
cArn's been at it since the Gom open seasons and now that I think of it, he's been in Korea for about a year. :O

I hope his training pays off at this upcoming tournament.
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
October 03 2011 20:22 GMT
#21
On October 04 2011 05:12 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 05:09 Candide wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:00 Roggay wrote:
On October 04 2011 04:52 RetoX wrote:
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^

That's really a shame :/
GOM should treat him better than that.



They want foreigners for Code A exposure, cArn is a foreigner with 0 accomplishments virtually unknown technically. They can't have him sit in the gom house taking up space so they can't invite more top level foreigners who want to try Code A. No offense to cArn but just saying. In the theory of how Gom works, cArn doesn't deserve a Code A spot nor a spot in the house for longer then he already was.

Good luck

cArn goes deeper into the code A qualifications than any other foreigners.
Plus, other known foreigners are NOT staying at the gom house, they prefer to stay at teamhouses (Naniwa even said that he wouldnt want to return to the gom house at all). The gom house atm is a caster house for the most part.



They are still inviting players into Code A once in a while, I don't know where Sase is I am pretty sure he is there as well. Going far into Code A=/= accomplishment in the international scene if you think about it. Also last time I remember there being a large hubbub about cArn was that ppl were saying he got to top 4 in his bracket when in reality he got a ff win one round and lost round 2(Going to show that a lot of people may be misinformed)

I don't have any hate for cArn he seems like a good player but spare GOM any negative comments you have about them is my only concern
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 20:22 GMT
#22
he's working hard to reach top4 at least.

As he said, if he had opportunity to train non stop, top4 wouldn't be a very good result, as he defeated MarineKing few times on ladder. But withouth a non stop training, it'll be hard ^^
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Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:33:52
October 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#23
On October 04 2011 05:22 RetoX wrote:
he's working hard to reach top4 at least.

As he said, if he had opportunity to train non stop, top4 wouldn't be a very good result, as he defeated MarineKing few times on ladder. But withouth a non stop training, it'll be hard ^^

when in reality he got a ff win one round and lost round 2(Going to show that a lot of people may be misinformed)


You misread me but yeah I am sure it will be interesting
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#24
On October 04 2011 05:33 Candide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 05:22 RetoX wrote:
he's working hard to reach top4 at least.

As he said, if he had opportunity to train non stop, top4 wouldn't be a very good result, as he defeated MarineKing few times on ladder. But withouth a non stop training, it'll be hard ^^

Show nested quote +
when in reality he got a ff win one round and lost round 2(Going to show that a lot of people may be misinformed)


You misread me but yeah I am sure it will be interesting


I didn't saw your post, i was awsering to previous one :p
But as Artosis said, GOM has nothing to lose by ginving cArn opportunity to train in their house, wich isn't full ^^
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m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:42:23
October 03 2011 20:42 GMT
#25
im sure cArn is trying hard and all but hasnt he been in korea for close to a year now and had nothing to show for it except a few wins in the qualifiers? i dont see how that makes it "ok" to stay in the gom house when you arent in code a or code s and have not qualified over 11 months...

best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
October 03 2011 20:43 GMT
#26
nice hope he finally gets to show his potential
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
October 03 2011 20:44 GMT
#27
Good for him, but when he was streaming his TvP was really really weak, he really needs to fix that if he wants to stand a chance.
It sucks that his living conditions are not good for training, but you can't blame Gom for that. He went to Korea with no RTS experience, and no results and was not able to show that he was a top player since. I mean, he doesn't have any lan results (it's mostly a consequence of him being in korea,i don't blame him for that, and the CPL thing is really unfortunate ), no online result, and not being impressive on the ladder (if you compare to Sase for example..). He has not done anything that proves that he deserves a spot.
He choosed the tough road though, and I respect him for that.It didn't work out as well as it could have, but I hope that in the end he will be able to achieve his goals, maybe ESWC is a step in that direction.
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 03 2011 21:18 GMT
#28
i guess he'll sho us his famous cArn build :D
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 03 2011 21:20 GMT
#29
Excited to see how well he does! Go cArn!
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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#30
On October 04 2011 06:20 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Excited to see how well he does! Go cArn!

he'll owns : )
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 04 2011 01:24 GMT
#31
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
October 04 2011 01:25 GMT
#32
whew- so happy for him. he's finally recognized. gogo cArn ♥
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 04 2011 01:26 GMT
#33
mech TvZ incoming :D cant wait :3
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a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
October 04 2011 01:30 GMT
#34
Wow, nice by cArn, hopefully he'll perform well there! I haven't seen his stream for a while, I just thought he like dropped off and moved back home, you can do it cArn!!!
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trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
October 04 2011 01:37 GMT
#35
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...
m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 02:39:33
October 04 2011 02:19 GMT
#36
On October 04 2011 10:37 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...

But its true. Hes not even a Code B player from what i've seen of him on stream. There's many foreigners out there who are better than cArn and bring more hype for GOM and its sponsors so why should GOM sacrifice a bed in their team house just because hes a nice guy? It sucks that he hasn't made it yet and probably will never make due to his lack of success ever since entering korea it but that doesn't mean we should be sympathetic and give him free housing (and who knows how long hes planning to stay really...) or free code A spots for his remainder in korea when there are players out there having to place damn high in MLG or win a spot via code B just to obtain an elusive code A spot

Point is, the GOM house is meant for promising foreign players that have either proven themselves via tournament wins, ladder hype, some sort of team sponsorship deal which makes them a hot commodity or players who fly in for special events such as korea vs the world or any other foreigner based event GOM might host. cArn does not fit any of those requirements.

So at this point, cArn has overstayed his welcome at the GOM house from the looks of it. he hasnt made any breakthroughs in a year, hasn't qualified for code a, hasn't won any online tournaments (that im aware of), isint tearing up the korean GM ladder like SaSe is, doesn't have any notable wins in the last 2 months etc etc.

Im by no means trying to be rude, but some players simply are not good enough and fall off the map. This has become the case for cArn. I always want to see a foreigner do well and make it big, but it isint going to happen with this dude and GOM has realized that and revoked his welcome. He should really venture back to europe where he might have more success financially competing in a large amount of online tournaments and go back to korea once his skill matches that of the korean players if he is not able to find a team house willing to take him.
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 04 2011 03:08 GMT
#37
On October 04 2011 11:19 m2e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:37 trikshun wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...

But its true. Hes not even a Code B player from what i've seen of him on stream. There's many foreigners out there who are better than cArn and bring more hype for GOM and its sponsors so why should GOM sacrifice a bed in their team house just because hes a nice guy? It sucks that he hasn't made it yet and probably will never make due to his lack of success ever since entering korea it but that doesn't mean we should be sympathetic and give him free housing (and who knows how long hes planning to stay really...) or free code A spots for his remainder in korea when there are players out there having to place damn high in MLG or win a spot via code B just to obtain an elusive code A spot

Point is, the GOM house is meant for promising foreign players that have either proven themselves via tournament wins, ladder hype, some sort of team sponsorship deal which makes them a hot commodity or players who fly in for special events such as korea vs the world or any other foreigner based event GOM might host. cArn does not fit any of those requirements.

So at this point, cArn has overstayed his welcome at the GOM house from the looks of it. he hasnt made any breakthroughs in a year, hasn't qualified for code a, hasn't won any online tournaments (that im aware of), isint tearing up the korean GM ladder like SaSe is, doesn't have any notable wins in the last 2 months etc etc.

Im by no means trying to be rude, but some players simply are not good enough and fall off the map. This has become the case for cArn. I always want to see a foreigner do well and make it big, but it isint going to happen with this dude and GOM has realized that and revoked his welcome. He should really venture back to europe where he might have more success financially competing in a large amount of online tournaments and go back to korea once his skill matches that of the korean players if he is not able to find a team house willing to take him.



True, foreigners are showing such great results, like losiing 1st round of code A (wich is easier than code b).
Indeed, nani deserves way more than carn by not winning a single map on GSL ? (against FD, who never defeated carn on ladder).
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 04 2011 03:10 GMT
#38
Good luck cArn, I still remember you from interviews with Artosis, and a video of you playing recorded by Doa or Moletrap
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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 04 2011 03:23 GMT
#39
On October 04 2011 12:08 RetoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 11:19 m2e wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:37 trikshun wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...

But its true. Hes not even a Code B player from what i've seen of him on stream. There's many foreigners out there who are better than cArn and bring more hype for GOM and its sponsors so why should GOM sacrifice a bed in their team house just because hes a nice guy? It sucks that he hasn't made it yet and probably will never make due to his lack of success ever since entering korea it but that doesn't mean we should be sympathetic and give him free housing (and who knows how long hes planning to stay really...) or free code A spots for his remainder in korea when there are players out there having to place damn high in MLG or win a spot via code B just to obtain an elusive code A spot

Point is, the GOM house is meant for promising foreign players that have either proven themselves via tournament wins, ladder hype, some sort of team sponsorship deal which makes them a hot commodity or players who fly in for special events such as korea vs the world or any other foreigner based event GOM might host. cArn does not fit any of those requirements.

So at this point, cArn has overstayed his welcome at the GOM house from the looks of it. he hasnt made any breakthroughs in a year, hasn't qualified for code a, hasn't won any online tournaments (that im aware of), isint tearing up the korean GM ladder like SaSe is, doesn't have any notable wins in the last 2 months etc etc.

Im by no means trying to be rude, but some players simply are not good enough and fall off the map. This has become the case for cArn. I always want to see a foreigner do well and make it big, but it isint going to happen with this dude and GOM has realized that and revoked his welcome. He should really venture back to europe where he might have more success financially competing in a large amount of online tournaments and go back to korea once his skill matches that of the korean players if he is not able to find a team house willing to take him.



True, foreigners are showing such great results, like losiing 1st round of code A (wich is easier than code b).
Indeed, nani deserves way more than carn by not winning a single map on GSL ? (against FD, who never defeated carn on ladder).

Uh i know you are a fan but how many months has carn spent in the gom house rent free? I think gom has already done enough for carn and he should be more than thankful for the opportunity. The gom house was never intended to be a permanent residence and if carn cant afford staying in korea its time to come home.
Kurast
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia35 Posts
October 04 2011 03:27 GMT
#40
cArn fighting ! Good luck at ESWC
m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:49:04
October 04 2011 03:41 GMT
#41
On October 04 2011 12:08 RetoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 11:19 m2e wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:37 trikshun wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...

But its true. Hes not even a Code B player from what i've seen of him on stream. There's many foreigners out there who are better than cArn and bring more hype for GOM and its sponsors so why should GOM sacrifice a bed in their team house just because hes a nice guy? It sucks that he hasn't made it yet and probably will never make due to his lack of success ever since entering korea it but that doesn't mean we should be sympathetic and give him free housing (and who knows how long hes planning to stay really...) or free code A spots for his remainder in korea when there are players out there having to place damn high in MLG or win a spot via code B just to obtain an elusive code A spot

Point is, the GOM house is meant for promising foreign players that have either proven themselves via tournament wins, ladder hype, some sort of team sponsorship deal which makes them a hot commodity or players who fly in for special events such as korea vs the world or any other foreigner based event GOM might host. cArn does not fit any of those requirements.

So at this point, cArn has overstayed his welcome at the GOM house from the looks of it. he hasnt made any breakthroughs in a year, hasn't qualified for code a, hasn't won any online tournaments (that im aware of), isint tearing up the korean GM ladder like SaSe is, doesn't have any notable wins in the last 2 months etc etc.

Im by no means trying to be rude, but some players simply are not good enough and fall off the map. This has become the case for cArn. I always want to see a foreigner do well and make it big, but it isint going to happen with this dude and GOM has realized that and revoked his welcome. He should really venture back to europe where he might have more success financially competing in a large amount of online tournaments and go back to korea once his skill matches that of the korean players if he is not able to find a team house willing to take him.



True, foreigners are showing such great results, like losiing 1st round of code A (wich is easier than code b).
Indeed, nani deserves way more than carn by not winning a single map on GSL ? (against FD, who never defeated carn on ladder).
Fanboyism to a whole other level, just because carn is well liked doesnt mean he deserves anything he cant earn.

Naniwa won an MLG.
SaSe is owning up the KR ladder @ GM and korean teams are showing major interest along with foreign teams.
Thorzain did fairly well for himself + got many kills in the GSTL
HuK = self-explanitory. A consistent Code-S player and a very well-liked hyped player who has multiple foreign tournament wins under his belt including DH and Homestory.
Jinro = Multiple RO4/RO8 in Code-S (slump atm but still 100x better than cArn)
IdrA = Multiple RO8 appearances
SelecT = RO16 Code A
Sjow = RO16 Code A
Fenix = A couple of GSTL wins currently in the IM team house after being picked up by a pro-team.

(im sure i missed a few)

So again to compare, what do the players listed above have over cArn? Oh right! They either have tournament wins, hype, invites, previous success which allows them to retain some form of prestige, are backed by teams and sponsors etc etc

What does cArn have? A couple of Code B wins? Last I heard he got knocked out by oGsCezanne in his latest Code B match. As for his latest ladder results? The last VODs listed on his stream show him ranked 9th in platinum and LOSING vs platinum players. And before that he was diamond and losing vs diamond/platinum.

So really I dont understand how you can make an argument for a Platinum/Diamond level foreigner over ANY of the foreigners I have listed above. You are really dense to even try -_-
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
October 04 2011 04:07 GMT
#42
cArn fighting!! Good luck, so glad you are competing in this. Been missing your stream!
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
October 04 2011 04:16 GMT
#43
Definitely glad to hear that cArn is getting some recognition. Can't wait to see him perform at ESWC!

P.S. I can't help but point out that you butchered the spelling of Morocco, unless I'm missing something? No one has said anything, so maybe I am missing something :O
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innocence
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand48 Posts
October 04 2011 05:15 GMT
#44
Wow, i have just realised that his name is c a r n, and not c a m.

cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:54:05
October 04 2011 05:53 GMT
#45
I read in this thread that Carn beats MKP and FruitDealer on ladder, but he's ranked 9th in platinum league?
Someone is wrong here?
m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:59:39
October 04 2011 05:57 GMT
#46
On October 04 2011 14:53 cyclone25 wrote:
I read in this thread that Carn beats MKP and FruitDealer on ladder, but he's ranked 9th in platinum league?
Someone is wrong here?

his last recording i think http://www.twitch.tv/carn_/b/287209069
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#47
On October 04 2011 13:16 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Definitely glad to hear that cArn is getting some recognition. Can't wait to see him perform at ESWC!

P.S. I can't help but point out that you butchered the spelling of Morocco, unless I'm missing something? No one has said anything, so maybe I am missing something :O


Thank god I'm not the only one who thought that :-o Yeah, I'm pretty sure they mean Morocco.
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zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
October 04 2011 06:18 GMT
#48
he works so hard that he deserves this! well done cArn!
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Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:52:17
October 04 2011 06:51 GMT
#49
On October 04 2011 12:41 m2e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:08 RetoX wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:19 m2e wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:37 trikshun wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 04 2011 05:42 m2e wrote:


best of luck to cArn but those who think GOM should give him more assistance or even a code a spot "just because" are absolutely delusional. every player needs to earn their way and some are just not good enough to break through but that doesnt mean they should be given sympathy and freebies...


Agreed. Gom isn't running a homeless shelter.

That isn't very nice...

But its true. Hes not even a Code B player from what i've seen of him on stream. There's many foreigners out there who are better than cArn and bring more hype for GOM and its sponsors so why should GOM sacrifice a bed in their team house just because hes a nice guy? It sucks that he hasn't made it yet and probably will never make due to his lack of success ever since entering korea it but that doesn't mean we should be sympathetic and give him free housing (and who knows how long hes planning to stay really...) or free code A spots for his remainder in korea when there are players out there having to place damn high in MLG or win a spot via code B just to obtain an elusive code A spot

Point is, the GOM house is meant for promising foreign players that have either proven themselves via tournament wins, ladder hype, some sort of team sponsorship deal which makes them a hot commodity or players who fly in for special events such as korea vs the world or any other foreigner based event GOM might host. cArn does not fit any of those requirements.

So at this point, cArn has overstayed his welcome at the GOM house from the looks of it. he hasnt made any breakthroughs in a year, hasn't qualified for code a, hasn't won any online tournaments (that im aware of), isint tearing up the korean GM ladder like SaSe is, doesn't have any notable wins in the last 2 months etc etc.

Im by no means trying to be rude, but some players simply are not good enough and fall off the map. This has become the case for cArn. I always want to see a foreigner do well and make it big, but it isint going to happen with this dude and GOM has realized that and revoked his welcome. He should really venture back to europe where he might have more success financially competing in a large amount of online tournaments and go back to korea once his skill matches that of the korean players if he is not able to find a team house willing to take him.



True, foreigners are showing such great results, like losiing 1st round of code A (wich is easier than code b).
Indeed, nani deserves way more than carn by not winning a single map on GSL ? (against FD, who never defeated carn on ladder).
Fanboyism to a whole other level, just because carn is well liked doesnt mean he deserves anything he cant earn.

Naniwa won an MLG.
SaSe is owning up the KR ladder @ GM and korean teams are showing major interest along with foreign teams.
Thorzain did fairly well for himself + got many kills in the GSTL
HuK = self-explanitory. A consistent Code-S player and a very well-liked hyped player who has multiple foreign tournament wins under his belt including DH and Homestory.
Jinro = Multiple RO4/RO8 in Code-S (slump atm but still 100x better than cArn)
IdrA = Multiple RO8 appearances
SelecT = RO16 Code A
Sjow = RO16 Code A
Fenix = A couple of GSTL wins currently in the IM team house after being picked up by a pro-team.

(im sure i missed a few)

So again to compare, what do the players listed above have over cArn? Oh right! They either have tournament wins, hype, invites, previous success which allows them to retain some form of prestige, are backed by teams and sponsors etc etc

What does cArn have? A couple of Code B wins? Last I heard he got knocked out by oGsCezanne in his latest Code B match. As for his latest ladder results? The last VODs listed on his stream show him ranked 9th in platinum and LOSING vs platinum players. And before that he was diamond and losing vs diamond/platinum.

So really I dont understand how you can make an argument for a Platinum/Diamond level foreigner over ANY of the foreigners I have listed above. You are really dense to even try -_-


That doesn't make any sense, you can't even compete in code B unless you're masters or above on the Korean ladder.
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
October 04 2011 06:58 GMT
#50

That doesn't make any sense, you can't even compete in code B unless you're masters or above on the Korean ladder.


Non-Koreans can enter the tournament regardless of their placement on the Korean ladder.
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DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
October 04 2011 08:26 GMT
#51
Used to watch his stream haven't seen him stream for a while now :X gl
8)
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
October 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#52
On October 04 2011 04:52 RetoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 04:46 Yaki wrote:
What the ? Why can't he train ? Doesn't he have a team that supports him or is it just that he couldn't train for personal reasons ? Anyway really nice that we'll see him outside of korea cause he has never made it to Code A but that doesn't mean he's bad as the Code A qualifiers are one of the hardest ever.


Since he was kicked out from GOM, he has no place to really train, his team support him and allow him to stay in korea, but as he's not in a gaming house he has a terrific connect and nowhere to really train. He'll be back in cybercoffe really soon ^^. eSahara contacted few teams to try to have a sit in their houses, but no responses and GOM don't seems to care at all (but they help other foreigners, giving them a free spot to A code, finding them a house...)

If someone has a house in korea tell me, we need somewhere to make cArn play he really needs it ^^


For someone trying to be the mans PR manager, you're not doing a very good job. The "other foreigners have been treated better" argument doesn't work at all. They were invitees with outside accomplishments. cArn has no titles, no past qualifications and a problematic nick (same as the much more famous 1.6 player). I would say GOM were generous to let him stay in the 'caster house' for as long as they did.

Mind you - i wouldn't have made this reply had you not made a point of his alleged martyrdom. You should have kept it at everyone congratulating a beloved underdog and hard worker for his inspirational struggle to make it in Korea and being invited to ESWC.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 04 2011 08:57 GMT
#53
finally we get to see if all that hardwork was actually worth it. I think a lot of peopel have wanted to see his skill level for a while now.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 04 2011 09:20 GMT
#54
hopefully he will do well and prove anybody saying hes rubbish wrong.

Hope he does well and finds a place to stay!!!! Good Luck!!!
Live and Let Die!
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 09:39:35
October 04 2011 09:36 GMT
#55
On October 04 2011 12:41 m2e wrote:
So really I dont understand how you can make an argument for a Platinum/Diamond level foreigner over ANY of the foreigners I have listed above. You are really dense to even try -_-


If he's being matched up against MKP and FD on ladder I highly doubt he's fucking Platinum/Diamond.
You call them fanboys, but you're just blindly hating without knowing anything about the guy. You're a terrible person and I hope you feel terrible for being an asshole.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
October 04 2011 09:38 GMT
#56
He doesn't deserve it imo, very subpar player for the opportunities he has had in the past, terrible attitude too.
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 04 2011 10:56 GMT
#57
On October 04 2011 18:36 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:41 m2e wrote:
So really I dont understand how you can make an argument for a Platinum/Diamond level foreigner over ANY of the foreigners I have listed above. You are really dense to even try -_-


If he's being matched up against MKP and FD on ladder I highly doubt he's fucking Platinum/Diamond.
You call them fanboys, but you're just blindly hating without knowing anything about the guy. You're a terrible person and I hope you feel terrible for being an asshole.


U really think he's platinium ? :o how can a platinium/diamond player could reach 1k viewer on stream ? ^^

And he had opportunity to stay less than a month in foreigner house, don't tell me gom did everything to help him -_-
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
October 04 2011 11:31 GMT
#58
gl cArn, i hope he shows what hes got
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ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 14:46:01
October 04 2011 11:57 GMT
#59
Some of you here that are really his fans, if you really like him, you should tell him to quit SC2 and do something with his life. One year is enough to prove SC2 is not for him. It was a nice adventure but it's time to let it go...

(I guess you could let him get demolished in this tournament by the lesser and not hyped players already qualified. But after that...)
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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
October 04 2011 15:12 GMT
#60
Congrats, cArn! I hope you will be able to show some excellent games.
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