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Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
September 25 2011 08:33 GMT
#81
If people aren't allowed to flip out in rage every so often then that's a world i don't want to be a part of.

tournaments obviously need to be a little more professional.
Ryze
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada234 Posts
September 25 2011 08:33 GMT
#82
This game can be very frustrating at times...... frustration leads to anger, which then leads to poor judgement and poor decisions =p

We could probably all work on maintaining our composure, but sometimes these things happen, I dont think a player should be punished for it though, not if its just a small online type of event.

It really depends on the sponsors involved and what their standards are, but most likely any kind of tournament with serious sponsorship will be treated professionally by everyone involved.
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
September 25 2011 08:35 GMT
#83
Ofcourse its not "okay" but what other outcome can you expect from the online gaming community which is largely young, quite often immature males who get easily angry/upset, add in the sprinkle of anno and there can be no other result than the most juvenile acts.

The only thing you can do is to ignore it, show total indifference and move on. If anything i expect pro players to be even more BM in most cases than your average player.
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kirdie
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany221 Posts
September 25 2011 08:36 GMT
#84
I think it's not ok to let stuff like this unpunished.
I mean sometimes I get frustrated too when I lose and say stuff like "I hate you :-)" after getting my mineral line roasted by hellions or something but personal threats should not be let unpunished in my opinion.
ForeverAzerG
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 25 2011 08:36 GMT
#85
you made this thread becuase someone told you to go kill yourself? seriously man up
okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
September 25 2011 08:37 GMT
#86
I always said: "hate the game, don't hate the player"
Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
tutsicockroach
Profile Joined March 2011
United States57 Posts
September 25 2011 08:39 GMT
#87
Never was a fan of Spades, because of this probably never will be.
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iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
September 25 2011 08:43 GMT
#88
On September 25 2011 17:02 Spades wrote:
Hwangsin and I had a somewhat unfriendly series of games, and brought our argument to a chat channel, which in hindsight was obviously a bad idea. We went back and forth for a while, and I lost control and said something RACIST. I've already talked to Scott(It's Gosu's manager) and there are no hard feelings, just a momentary case of bad judgement. I will personally apologize to HwangSin, and I will do my best not to act in a RACIST manner again.


fixed

In addition to HwangSin, you need to apologize to every Asian player and viewer. Well, not even just Asians, you need to apologize to everyone, including your fans for your idiocy and violent racist remarks.
You have shown no remorse on the Reddit thread. In fact, you insulted the OP. It's hard to believe you're this stupid and that you don't realize your future in pro Starcraft is seriously in jeopardy.
TKatzurimata
Profile Joined April 2011
United States17 Posts
September 25 2011 08:44 GMT
#89
I find it more difficult to swallow that people of the internet have the inability to cope with the fact that some people are going to say stupid shit. So what? Someone said something racist, does it really matter? Like seriously? Does it REALLY matter?

Its really beyond me how the internet culture can throw tons of derogatory terms around but get hung up on a professional player saying the same thing. On the internet its like a cage of monkeys flinging excrement at each other, deal with it. I highly doubt people carry these same feeling when they meet at a lan.

People are gonna say stupid shit and it only really means anything if you let it mean something, so please as an appeal to the entire who the hell ever takes such things to heart, just stop. Chill, let it go or I'll slap your shit during our next ladder match, kk?
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 08:51:12
September 25 2011 08:48 GMT
#90
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.

As for my "new leaf" I honestly have done a lot better, sure I've F*'d up a bit but it is nothing like it was 2 months ago. I was even wishing Combatex and deezer GL HF and they both GG'd when I beat them. Never thought that possible I've been cleaning up my focus and beating tons of top players and it feels great. Thanks for those who support me and those who hate me I don't blame you.. It wasn't as easy as snapping my fingers, and I will continue to try to control my temper better.
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BigBadBeaver
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 08:49:37
September 25 2011 08:49 GMT
#91
On September 25 2011 17:44 TKatzurimata wrote:
I find it more difficult to swallow that people of the internet have the inability to cope with the fact that some people are going to say stupid shit. So what? Someone said something racist, does it really matter? Like seriously? Does it REALLY matter?

Its really beyond me how the internet culture can throw tons of derogatory terms around but get hung up on a professional player saying the same thing. On the internet its like a cage of monkeys flinging excrement at each other, deal with it. I highly doubt people carry these same feeling when they meet at a lan.

People are gonna say stupid shit and it only really means anything if you let it mean something, so please as an appeal to the entire who the hell ever takes such things to heart, just stop. Chill, let it go or I'll slap your shit during our next ladder match, kk?

When you're representing a team and sponsorship, yea it does matter quite a bit.

Unfortunately, the fact that the internet is populated by so many immature pricks gives me little faith that e-sports can grow into a mainstream industry. (Along with a host of other issues, but that's beside the point)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 25 2011 08:49 GMT
#92
On September 25 2011 17:48 JediGamer wrote:
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.


Screenshot otherwise this is just hot smoke of a scenario.
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iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
September 25 2011 08:53 GMT
#93
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
September 25 2011 08:56 GMT
#94
On September 25 2011 17:48 JediGamer wrote:
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.


As someone who comes into threads and bitches about BM they've received on ladder, I find it hilarious that you have the balls to come and whine about him calling you on your bullshit when you do it.


If tournaments or sponsors don't allow BM thats up to them, as random ladder games on the internet, all you can do is just not associate with BM players, it's all up to you.

Insults are only insults when you allow them to bother you. I fail to see why anyone would want to get themselves worked up over internet arguments, despite it happening constantly.
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 09:02:28
September 25 2011 09:01 GMT
#95
On September 25 2011 17:56 Russano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:48 JediGamer wrote:
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.


As someone who comes into threads and bitches about BM they've received on ladder, I find it hilarious that you have the balls to come and whine about him calling you on your bullshit when you do it.


If tournaments or sponsors don't allow BM thats up to them, as random ladder games on the internet, all you can do is just not associate with BM players, it's all up to you.

Insults are only insults when you allow them to bother you. I fail to see why anyone would want to get themselves worked up over internet arguments, despite it happening constantly.


Are you on ACID el russano. First off , I'm the person people make QQ threads ABOUT. Second off, I literally laugh when people bad manner me, I find it hilarious.
Third off, calling me on my bullshit? I didn't even make any statements to him.

edit: The irony of " I fail to see why anyone would want to get themselves worked up over internet arguments, despite it happening constantly." is immense. This is your second worked up post here.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
September 25 2011 09:02 GMT
#96
So HwangSin started talking shit, Spades throws out a racial slur and people start getting butthurt over it?

It's the Internet guys, people throw around racial and sexist slurs all the time. Spades is in the wrong for responding to it, but I don't think that this thread is needed at all. Anyone with half a brain will just ignore the person throwing racial slurs out of his keyboard, no matter who they are. And to the person saying that Spades owes an apology to all the Asians.. just fucking lol.
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pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
September 25 2011 09:02 GMT
#97
my opinion on stuff like this has been established ever since i started following sports

look if the guy didn't commit murder or something henious like that then it shouldn't matter

we shouldn't focus on the "tmz" aspect of the world

we should focus on the gameplay. fuck everything else.

i'm sorry but too many people are caught up in the drama and ignore the game.
Spades
Profile Joined September 2010
United States249 Posts
September 25 2011 09:03 GMT
#98
On September 25 2011 17:53 iloveAthene wrote:
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game

How can you interpret the thoughts behind a single line of text? Tell me what i can do for you to make you happy? I've apologized publicly, I've apologized to HwangSin on a skype call, everything is fine in the world, but you apparently think I'm the modern day Starcraft 2 Hitler. I apologize to anyone who was offended, I said this in a chat channel with about 30 people in it. I didn't say this on stream, i didnt post this all over the internet, my intentions were never to insult anyone outside HwangSin, which was clearly a lapse in composure, and I apologized. HwangSin and I, have both apologized to eachother for our argument on a skype call, and we have moved on with no hard feelings. I have no issue with HwangSin, or the asian community whatsoever, and again I apologize if you were offended.
pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
September 25 2011 09:05 GMT
#99
On September 25 2011 18:03 Spades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:53 iloveAthene wrote:
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game

How can you interpret the thoughts behind a single line of text? Tell me what i can do for you to make you happy? I've apologized publicly, I've apologized to HwangSin on a skype call, everything is fine in the world, but you apparently think I'm the modern day Starcraft 2 Hitler. I apologize to anyone who was offended, I said this in a chat channel with about 30 people in it. I didn't say this on stream, i didnt post this all over the internet, my intentions were never to insult anyone outside HwangSin, which was clearly a lapse in composure, and I apologized. HwangSin and I, have both apologized to eachother for our argument on a skype call, and we have moved on with no hard feelings. I have no issue with HwangSin, or the asian community whatsoever, and again I apologize if you were offended.

you really should ignore people like that

you've apologized for what you've done and that's all you can do

if people can't accept it it's their problem
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 09:08:35
September 25 2011 09:05 GMT
#100
On September 25 2011 17:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:48 JediGamer wrote:
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.


Screenshot otherwise this is just hot smoke of a scenario.

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So here we have it, this terrible "victim" was harassing me on skype for absolutely no reason, then I react with nonthreatening insults and all of a sudden his butt feels a pain no high schooler nor man can withstand.
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