• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:20
CEST 18:20
KST 01:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro16 Group C BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1977 users

Is it okay to say extreme stuff over game? - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 21 Next All
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
September 25 2011 09:05 GMT
#101
You have come into other threads to bitch about being BM'd, and you did make statements to him wtih your BM.

"I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself."

He didn't even mention who did the BMing, and you feel the need to come in and defend yourself, seems like you do let it bother you.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 25 2011 09:11 GMT
#102
On September 25 2011 16:27 Bonkerz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 16:26 BigBadBeaver wrote:
The internet can be ridiculous like that. I've been told to kill myself multiple times on the ladder. I think playing terran has somethin to do with it. Damn racists..

And this guy you're talking to seems to have had issues before...

Ladder is one thing, and yes the guy im talking to has a ton of issues, but from more pro players who use language like this, should tournaments allow it? Personally I feel it should be a fine/dq if you use shit like that, it really needs to be cut down...


If I remember correctly Major said somthing bad to other play during game at mlg(?)
And he got warning from that or somthing like that
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
September 25 2011 09:15 GMT
#103
On September 25 2011 18:03 Spades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:53 iloveAthene wrote:
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game

How can you interpret the thoughts behind a single line of text? Tell me what i can do for you to make you happy? I've apologized publicly, I've apologized to HwangSin on a skype call, everything is fine in the world, but you apparently think I'm the modern day Starcraft 2 Hitler. I apologize to anyone who was offended, I said this in a chat channel with about 30 people in it. I didn't say this on stream, i didnt post this all over the internet, my intentions were never to insult anyone outside HwangSin, which was clearly a lapse in composure, and I apologized. HwangSin and I, have both apologized to eachother for our argument on a skype call, and we have moved on with no hard feelings. I have no issue with HwangSin, or the asian community whatsoever, and again I apologize if you were offended.


I think its the threat of violence that leads my interpretation. When someone says "I hope you get cancer and die" or even "I'm gonna rape your sister" we all know that's not serious. But your's seemed realistic enough that you might actually mean it.

And "I apologize if you were offended" isn't a very genuine apology.
Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
September 25 2011 09:21 GMT
#104
On September 25 2011 17:53 iloveAthene wrote:
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game


I'm tired of hearing this tbh, I don't care what context someone chooses to use the N word in. I don't like hearing that offensive word in any context at all and should never be rationalized.
it's pathetic that this is the mentality of a large majority of people... sigh
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
September 25 2011 09:25 GMT
#105
So what exactly did HwangSin say?
iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
September 25 2011 09:28 GMT
#106
On September 25 2011 18:21 Latto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:53 iloveAthene wrote:
2 white guys calling each other the N word is not anywhere near the same league as what Spades said. Has Destiny taught us nothing? It's the thoughts behind the words and not the words themselves. And in Spades' case the thoughts seem pretty obvious.

Besides, this was a tourney where Spades was representing RGN, not a ladder game


I'm tired of hearing this tbh, I don't care what context someone chooses to use the N word in. I don't like hearing that offensive word in any context at all and should never be rationalized.
it's pathetic that this is the mentality of a large majority of people... sigh


Yeah, I don't like hearing the N word either. Just pointing out that the Spades quote isn't even justifiable under the "context argument."
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 09:32:15
September 25 2011 09:31 GMT
#107
I'm not sure who is more pathetic, you starting this thread or spades being racist towards asians on battle.net.

EDIT: Keeping a neutral mindset, I will add a third option: me for bumping said pathetic thread.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
September 25 2011 09:35 GMT
#108
Are we killing ESPORTS again?
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
September 25 2011 09:39 GMT
#109
Lost respect for Spades. Everyone loses their temper but there is a line. Why people default to race / sex / age as insults is beyond me - they usually just make the poster look like a complete jackass.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 09:46:32
September 25 2011 09:45 GMT
#110
wow.

u make a thread because someone told you to go kill yourself on the internet? get a grip, dont take things so seriously...

its called rage. this kind of shit is expected dont sweat it and over react by posting it.

imo ppl are being too anal.. this is afterall a ONLINE GAME. its not like he was at MLG and being casted and said something.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 25 2011 09:48 GMT
#111
Looks like this has all been resolved... kind of ridiculous that a thread was created so you could cry about someone being mad @ you. It's the internet, people get mad as hell all the time. Either grow some thicker skin or do something else.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
September 25 2011 09:49 GMT
#112
It's called discipline, in my opinion that's unacceptable behaviour giving the fact it's a "pro" player in a tournament.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
September 25 2011 09:53 GMT
#113
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 25 2011 18:05 JediGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 17:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 25 2011 17:48 JediGamer wrote:
Heres a nutshell of what happened today. Bonkerz makes a VERY poor mech guide. I question said guide based on theory, skill, and ability to help improve lower level players realistically. Bonkerz gets slightly butthurt, and hunts my stream down. Bonkerz questions my mech builds via chat and begins messaging me on skype uninvited, posing as someone who wanted coaching. Then he says my coaching isn't worth money, and starts belittling me because my TvP is abusive.
He also states my mech is bad and that I can't compete with pros (Not true, can provide reps but hate to post my own replays). I begin to vigorously insult his ignorance and guessed that he was in high school without knowing anything about him, based on his bandwagon-ishness and ignorance. I proceed to recommend he kill himself. I never once threatened to kick his ass or even be affiliated with him mentally physically or emotionally.

Moral of the story, Sticks and stones can break bones, but words can wilt pansies.


Screenshot otherwise this is just hot smoke of a scenario.

[image loading]

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

So here we have it, this terrible "victim" was harassing me on skype for absolutely no reason, then I react with nonthreatening insults and all of a sudden his butt feels a pain no high schooler nor man can withstand.


In no way I want to implicate myself in this, but did you seriously post a screenshot of yourself being a douchebag to someone else, boast for no reasons, encourage him to commit suicide, and then whine that that person is not mannered?

Mind boggling.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 25 2011 09:55 GMT
#114
If you want to take a legalistic approach we can assume that the SC2 chat rules are the same as Blizzard's WoW chat rules in that explicit death threats (I am going to kill you motherflipper) will get you a ban if the person you threatened bothered to report you.

Personally though? Ladder is a game, don't take it so seriously. Tournaments might be a bit different but the two of you are professionals who do this for a living. Getting pissed off to this point simply hurts your image as a players and the image of SC2 in general.
EternalSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden313 Posts
September 25 2011 09:55 GMT
#115
I dont think its such a big deal, i mean, he apologized and obviously meant it.
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
September 25 2011 09:58 GMT
#116
MLG and most respected events have rule about the level of BM - you can get DQ'd or removed from the venue - so... yeah
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 25 2011 09:59 GMT
#117
Can we move on? Spades made a mistake and was all hot headed and what HwangSin said certainly didn't help. I don't think Spades is a very mannered player, neither am I, but making a huge deal out of it... seriously guys.

There are a lot of players (pros as well) who sometimes bad manner, but they happen to do it in a more private way (aka P.M, or chat on bnet) and not in public so it actually never appears as thread on TL.

Move on. If HwangSin and Spades can do that, why can't we?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
wordd
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia190 Posts
September 25 2011 09:59 GMT
#118
I think this is a bullshit post, no-one would make a post about HwangSin trolling Spades but as soon as he reacts to it the knives are out. I hope this thread gets closed quickly.
YA
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 25 2011 10:07 GMT
#119
All the organizations will deal with it and so will the teams involved if the sponsors get a ton of shit over it. BM up to a point is good for the scene. It produces rivalries and drama and story between players. Just think if how much more hype happened when MC throat slashed or IdrA flipped him off. It creates that tension for a spectator sport.

If you just go look at the confusing bm thread, you'll see a ton worse shit than anything Spades or some guy that told you to go kill yourself. Who gives a shit, people over the internet rage and say dumb stuff all the time. There is a difference between being a keyboard warrior and touting guns and knives threatening people.

Either way, I don't see BM hurting "the scene"...i just see another horrible threads making over-exaggerated claims about the impact of small isolated incidents. Everyone just either needs to ignore each other or say sorry and be professional about it. Move on.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
September 25 2011 10:08 GMT
#120
On September 25 2011 18:59 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Can we move on? Spades made a mistake and was all hot headed and what HwangSin said certainly didn't help. I don't think Spades is a very mannered player, neither am I, but making a huge deal out of it... seriously guys.

There are a lot of players (pros as well) who sometimes bad manner, but they happen to do it in a more private way (aka P.M, or chat on bnet) and not in public so it actually never appears as thread on TL.

Move on. If HwangSin and Spades can do that, why can't we?


I agree with you.

What I don't know if you're considering is that racially / sexually charged comments are not the same as "FUCK YOU ZOMG WHY I LOSE I SO MAD!"

The fact that everyone does it doesn't make it less immature. We should definitely move on, but I hope people learn from it at least.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 146
ProTech81
JuggernautJason61
UpATreeSC 28
Codebar 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31355
Bisu 3310
Horang2 2493
EffOrt 1081
ZerO 397
Mini 391
Hyuk 384
Light 330
Soulkey 204
hero 144
[ Show more ]
Soma 136
Rush 115
ggaemo 99
Snow 95
Hyun 68
Mind 60
Aegong 37
Free 31
sorry 29
ToSsGirL 26
Terrorterran 22
JYJ22
Yoon 20
scan(afreeca) 15
IntoTheRainbow 10
Sexy 8
Dota 2
Gorgc7208
qojqva3632
Dendi1154
XcaliburYe201
League of Legends
Trikslyr55
Counter-Strike
ScreaM928
fl0m302
oskar171
markeloff131
Other Games
gofns27718
tarik_tv23260
FrodaN635
Mlord445
Lowko378
Hui .274
RotterdaM241
byalli238
ArmadaUGS124
QueenE66
NeuroSwarm39
ZerO(Twitch)22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 17
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix14
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV374
League of Legends
• Nemesis4343
• TFBlade447
Other Games
• Shiphtur223
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
17h 40m
Zoun vs Classic
Map Test Tournament
18h 40m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 15h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
Reynor vs Cure
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.