EPT[Poll] Best Foreigner? - Page 44
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fusihunter
Australia208 Posts
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iMp.will.
Bulgaria441 Posts
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
On September 26 2011 07:14 Blasphemi wrote: The reason they all left is because they lost in code a round 1. They couldn't get into code s because they weren't good enough. All 5 of the players I listed didn't have any early success either, not everyone wants to live in korea. | ||
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fant0m
964 Posts
Labeling one of these guys as "the best" would be like putting MC on exactly the same level as MVP and Nestea (as of today, September 26, 2011). One of these guys is going to have to step it up and start consistently beating the rest of them (and winning tournaments - especially a tournament with Koreans in it) before being able to claim the title of "the best." | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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icarly
United States400 Posts
People say Stephano isn't accomplished, but these Eu weekly cups that everyone on State of the Game joke about consist of the best players in Europe-- meaning the best foreigners. I definitely put more weight in a top 4 finish in a European weekly cup than a top 4 finish in pre Korean MLG. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:21 icarly wrote: After watching the Scan invitational and the FxO KOTH, I really don't see why the majority vote isn't for Stephano. He's simply the most dominant foreigner at the moment. I can understand arguments for Thorzain, but not for anyone else. People say Stephano isn't accomplished, but these Eu weekly cups that everyone on State of the Game joke about consist of the best players in Europe-- meaning the best foreigners. I definitely put more weight in a top 4 finish in a European weekly cup than a top 4 finish in pre Korean MLG. Well unfortunately there are a lot of tournaments which don't get enough mainstream coverage, and people defer to results from the approximately 5 or so big tournaments (GSL, NASL, IPL, dreamhacks, mlgs), though a lot of players are proven outside these. Also unfortunately, I'm definitely in the above group. Outside of the 5 above, plus a couple of other games here and there, I'm not up to date on the current state of all "foreign" players. Stephano is a perfect example, because though you think he might be the best, I can't say I've seen enough of him. So he might be, but I need to see him. But also my opinion is largely formed from the limited number of tournaments I have time to actually watch =/ | ||
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tuho12345
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:21 icarly wrote: After watching the Scan invitational and the FxO KOTH, I really don't see why the majority vote isn't for Stephano. He's simply the most dominant foreigner at the moment. I can understand arguments for Thorzain, but not for anyone else. People say Stephano isn't accomplished, but these Eu weekly cups that everyone on State of the Game joke about consist of the best players in Europe-- meaning the best foreigners. I definitely put more weight in a top 4 finish in a European weekly cup than a top 4 finish in pre Korean MLG. MLG is a much harder tournament even without the Korean invitees, because sure, Go4SC2 has many good players, but not every round is challenging and most pro players are not participating. If you're a top player, you've basically got 5 rounds of free wins and then all you need to do is beat 2 good players and 1 other pro in Bo3s and a Bo5. Even if you don't think guys like InControL and Drewbie are as good as the european pros, it is still way more difficult to get through 8 rounds vs them than 1 round vs Thorzain. | ||
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Fushin
France193 Posts
And White-Ra should definately be up there. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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Tailss
Sweden233 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:35 asdfOu wrote: how can this not be an auto huk vote... Imo Ret, Dimaga, ThorZain and Stephano are all better than HuK. | ||
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snapski
Croatia70 Posts
I put my faith into his hands, he could compete without problem in Code S. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10837 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:21 Cel.erity wrote: MLG is a much harder tournament even without the Korean invitees, because sure, Go4SC2 has many good players, but not every round is challenging and most pro players are not participating. If you're a top player, you've basically got 5 rounds of free wins and then all you need to do is beat 2 good players and 1 other pro in Bo3s and a Bo5. Even if you don't think guys like InControL and Drewbie are as good as the european pros, it is still way more difficult to get through 8 rounds vs them than 1 round vs Thorzain. Depends on the exact cup/weekly. The monthly finals of these online cups are tough. The european qualifier for IEM NY was fucking ridiculous. AND some MLG's were really lacking (the one with Thorzain was tough, Raleigh was really nothing anything special lineup wise if there would not have been Koreans). Dreamhack, Assembly and Homestorycup were all harder (- Koreans). | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:46 Fus wrote: When HuK is on fire, no foreigner will ever come close to him. Obviously, they will get burns. On serious note: I would say the best foreigner is either Sen/Dimaga/Stephano depending on a day and MU. Soon we will see them performing in top tournaments so we can draw conclusions | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
ThorZaIN Dimaga Sen HuK NaNiwa Stephano Nerchio SeleCT | ||
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