EPTHe beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo.
[Poll] Best Foreigner? - Page 28
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. | ||
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izgodlee
Canada133 Posts
On September 25 2011 07:52 Tewks44 wrote: I've never understood the argument for SeleCT being American. He's from Korea. HuK is Canadian American even though he plays in Korea, not Korean so why do we call SeleCT American? It's a double standard it seems. No some people are too simple to understand it... hes from korea, but he never trained for sc2 IN KOREA he trained in the US, thats the whole point. Don't understand how people still dont get this. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On September 25 2011 07:46 PeachTea wrote: Wow no QXC? ur definitely favoring europeans without putting QXC up there. You even put Kas up there... rediculous Unfortunately QXC doesn't have comparable solo results to most of the people on that list, Kas included. His biggest achievement is probably all-killing IM and while I do not want to down-play that at all, he went through 3 players being field tested(really cocky by IM) before taking out MVP. Certainly a strong player but I don't see how anyone could claim him as the best foreigner. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
3rd and 4th is very close | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:28 izgodlee wrote: No some people are too simple to understand it... hes from korea, but he never trained for sc2 IN KOREA he trained in the US, thats the whole point. Don't understand how people still dont get this. Then why is HuK, who trains exclusively in korea now and has for a long time, considered a foreigner? | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On September 25 2011 07:44 luckybeni2 wrote: Because huk made his ace kills when he was in really good shape and he did not show much of that in the past month. Well look at all the guys on the list. Any of them is in the good shape right now? WHen was the last time we've seen Sen? NASL final ? last win for IdrA was IPL 1 right? Tzain 3 kills in GSTL don't mean anything. Please... At least HuK made R8 last GSL season. | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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PeachTea
United States149 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:29 Mordiford wrote: Unfortunately QXC doesn't have comparable solo results to most of the people on that list, Kas included. His biggest achievement is probably all-killing IM and while I do not want to down-play that at all, he went through 3 players being field tested(really cocky by IM) before taking out MVP. Certainly a strong player but I don't see how anyone could claim him as the best foreigner. Your right. I was just a bit flabbergasted at some of the picks from the OP. Well said | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:30 Whitewing wrote: Then why is HuK, who trains exclusively in korea now and has for a long time, considered a foreigner? Why is this so hard for people to understand? Huk is a foreigner who represents what the korean training method does for you. Do people like you like stirring up shit? | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:23 PeachTea wrote: thats 100 bux gone. Plus qxc's tvz and tvp is much better. Even if Kas has better TvT. 100 bux Kas wouldnt all kill a korean team in his first season. Now thats a garunteed 100. QXC is better all around. You counter the silly argument (only focusing on the direct duell - one matchup) with another one (mentioning one arbitrary achievement which qxc probably couldn't easily repeat himself). My impression: Kas and qxc are similar level. Both are not top10 foreigners. | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:31 tuho12345 wrote: Well look at all the guys on the list. Any of them is in the good shape right now? WHen was the last time we've seen Sen? NASL final ? last win for IdrA was IPL 1 right? Tzain 3 kills in GSTL don't mean anything. Please... At least HuK made R8 last GSL season. Tzain almost takeing down the best ZvT'er in the world? Not includeing TvZ is his worst MU. (This was at dreamhack valencia vs DRG) | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote: Why do people underestimate MaNa so much?? He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Agreed. I don't even like Mana but he's just been tearing it up recently. Really Mana and HuK should be 1 and 2 depending on how you see it. Not sure how anyone can justify putting Thorzain at #1, he did decently in the GSTL but other than that hasn't done anything recently. | ||
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Sackings
Canada457 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Thorzain get the top tho. Select is not far tho but as i said.. if he lived in korea he would just be one these top korean everyone fear. Sen is really high up there too, but seriously, a foreigner from asia is not really comparable to an european/american. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Terran - Swedish - Baller Oh and did i mention he's play is super solid and that he + Show Spoiler + took two games from the same guy who just recently 2-0ed MVP :D | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:37 Noocta wrote: Feel weird to me to see Huk listed as Canadian when Select is listed American but whatever.. ( select train on korean ladder and with korean quite a lot actually soo... ) Thorzain get the top tho. Select is not far tho but as i said.. if he lived in korea he would just be one these top korean everyone fear. Sen is really high up there too, but seriously, a foreigner from asia is not really comparable to an european/american. What are you saying? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
What i mean is that someone like Sen get easy acces to korean ladder. I don't really think Sen is the same level of "foreigner" than someone in europe/america. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:31 neobowman wrote: If it's an OSL/TSL like tournament with lots of time to prepare for the opponent. Thorzain. Otherwise, Huk. See now I never really got why people have this perception about Thorzain. I recall many who used to say he's only good in a TSL setting where he has at least a week to prepare for his next match, even after he went 9th at MLG (losing to MC and taking two more games off him in the process) and barely losing out to July and Hasu for his Dreamhack group. More recently, he's done pretty well in the GSTL for a foreigner, which exposes you to a variety of different opponents giving you little preparation. He also came in second at the Dreamhack invitational. Willing to bet he'll roflstomp his IPL3 group as well :p. | ||
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