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On September 25 2011 08:56 00Visor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 25 2011 08:50 PeachTea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 08:45 Elite__ wrote:
really surprised at how little people voted for dimaga, i feel like his really high up there in the top foreigner list Dimaga has always shown himself to be very solid but nothing spectacular enough to give him the best foreigner spot. Dimage derserves to be up there. But for the top spot he is too unconsistent. He is the type of player who can take a game off anyone. But then loses to a rather unknown player. Edit: Stephano Vods
Thanks a lot for the vods 
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On September 25 2011 09:14 iMp.will. wrote:
Select is korean
Idra? thats laughable
Its between Huk / Thorzain. Would give the edge to Thorzain
Really close behind them are Naniwa/Sen/Fenix
And please stop with this lame discussion - the place where you live/train doesnt change your nationality
Select = KOREAN
Huk = CANADIAN
Combat'EX = trash
well, he might be korean and i concider him as korean, but hes still a foreigner! just cause his whole sc2 carrier from beta on took place in the USA.
thats why hes in the list and thats why i put the USA flag for him.
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On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here.
Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already
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ThorZaIN is probably the strongest at this moment.
In terms of potential, I'd say the ones with the most potential, ranked in order of how much potential they have already reached, are:
ThorZaIN
NaNiwa
Stephano
MajOr
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Thorzain and Huk at the moment 100%.
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On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already
Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either.
The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements.
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On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here.
Din't Mana won a Dreamhack last year ?
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On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements.
Thorzain performed extremely well in Korea when he was there and took DRG down to the wire at DH while beating HuK in that same tournament. Right now, Thorzain is playing at the highest level of any foreigner.
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On September 25 2011 09:55 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Din't Mana won a Dreamhack last year ?
No that was Naama.
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On September 25 2011 08:33 PeachTea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 08:29 Mordiford wrote:On September 25 2011 07:46 PeachTea wrote:
Wow no QXC? ur definitely favoring europeans without putting QXC up there. You even put Kas up there... rediculous Unfortunately QXC doesn't have comparable solo results to most of the people on that list, Kas included. His biggest achievement is probably all-killing IM and while I do not want to down-play that at all, he went through 3 players being field tested(really cocky by IM) before taking out MVP. Certainly a strong player but I don't see how anyone could claim him as the best foreigner. Your right. I was just a bit flabbergasted at some of the picks from the OP. Well said
HE ALL KILLED IM. THAT IS ALL.
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On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements.
Achievements really don't mean much when you are looking at current form. Unless those achievements are in fact current. Unfortunately that's not really the case so it's pointless to look at them.
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On September 25 2011 09:59 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:55 Noocta wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Din't Mana won a Dreamhack last year ? No that was Naama.
But Mana was in the finals, which was hilarious. Try to pronounce Mana/Naama 5 times in a row, and now think how the shoutcasters had to feel :-D.
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On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here.
You continue to be a terrible, non-Korean player-hating poster. The poll is asking for the best player, not the most successful player.
On September 25 2011 10:00 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Achievements really don't mean much when you are looking at current form. Unless those achievements are in fact current. Unfortunately that's not really the case so it's pointless to look at them.
High five! :D
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On September 25 2011 09:59 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Thorzain performed extremely well in Korea when he was there and took DRG down to the wire at DH while beating HuK in that same tournament. Right now, Thorzain is playing at the highest level of any foreigner.
Thorzain lost more games than he won in Korea. That is performing 'extremely well'?
Thorzain was outplayed by DRG. He got some lucky spawns and looked worse than DRG even in the games he won.
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On September 25 2011 10:00 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Achievements really don't mean much when you are looking at current form. Unless those achievements are in fact current. Unfortunately that's not really the case so it's pointless to look at them.
All of Huks achievements are current except the MLG win.
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On September 25 2011 10:02 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:59 Hierarch wrote:On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Thorzain performed extremely well in Korea when he was there and took DRG down to the wire at DH while beating HuK in that same tournament. Right now, Thorzain is playing at the highest level of any foreigner. Thorzain lost more games than he won in Korea. That is performing 'extremely well'? Thorzain was outplayed by DRG. He got some lucky spawns and looked worse than DRG even in the games he won.
Every terran is outperformed by DRG, His 1st trip to Korea and performing the way he did? I see that as performing extremely well, he only got roflstomped in 1 game iirc and that was due to banshees. Also his code A match was the day after he landed so none of the foreigners performed well in those.
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On September 25 2011 10:02 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. You continue to be a terrible, non-Korean player-hating poster. The poll is asking for the best player, not the most successful player. Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 10:00 Numy wrote:On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Achievements really don't mean much when you are looking at current form. Unless those achievements are in fact current. Unfortunately that's not really the case so it's pointless to look at them. High five! :D
You can't be the best without beating the best and winning tournaments on LAN.
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On September 25 2011 10:03 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 10:00 Numy wrote:On September 25 2011 09:51 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 09:40 tuho12345 wrote:On September 25 2011 09:17 Blasphemi wrote:On September 25 2011 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Why do people underestimate MaNa so much??
He beat PuMa in a best of 3 in a LAN 2-0... also beat in 2-0 in EG masters cupo. Because he's won zero major tournaments. Anyone without a major win is irrelevant here. Stephano/Sen hasn't won anything as well beside some small tourneys online right? MaNa has been in a quite a few final and second places already Stephano doesn't deserve a mention either. The correct answer is Huk, easily and I don't even like Huk and the day he's in Code B is a good day for me but clearly he's the best foreigner. Dreamhack winner, Homestory winner, MLG winner, Code S, highest foreigner at the last two MLGs. No one else compares to Huk's achievements. Achievements really don't mean much when you are looking at current form. Unless those achievements are in fact current. Unfortunately that's not really the case so it's pointless to look at them. All of Huks achievements are current except the MLG win.
Dreamhack and HSC isn't really recent anymore? Weren't those 3-4 months ago?
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huk have a good chance of being the only protoss in the whole code S next seasion, I think he is the best foreigner.
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EPT
