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KWest
Profile Joined September 2010
United States59 Posts
September 24 2011 18:54 GMT
#341
On September 25 2011 03:40 Paladia wrote:
Also, how can Select be in a poll for best foreigner?

He is Korean, was born in Korea, speaks Korean as his native language, considers himself Korean and lives and works in Korea.

It could, by some long shot extremely broad definition, possibly be considered before but just give it up now, he's Korean. It is as silly as calling SaSe chinese, except even more silly as SaSe lived and played from China for longer than Select did in NA.


The same concept applies to people in other sports. An American basketball player that plays in an European league, is a European basketball player. It doesn't matter where you're from, but what environment you play in and who you play against. Select has played in the North American setting from Day 1, making him a North American player.
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
September 24 2011 18:56 GMT
#342
I feel like Stephano is at the same time the most overrated and underrated player in the foreign scene if that makes any sense at all.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
September 24 2011 18:57 GMT
#343
On September 25 2011 03:54 KWest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 03:40 Paladia wrote:
Also, how can Select be in a poll for best foreigner?

He is Korean, was born in Korea, speaks Korean as his native language, considers himself Korean and lives and works in Korea.

It could, by some long shot extremely broad definition, possibly be considered before but just give it up now, he's Korean. It is as silly as calling SaSe chinese, except even more silly as SaSe lived and played from China for longer than Select did in NA.


The same concept applies to people in other sports. An American basketball player that plays in an European league, is a European basketball player. It doesn't matter where you're from, but what environment you play in and who you play against. Select has played in the North American setting from Day 1, making him a North American player.


I would like to add or clarify what you mean, that you also have to train there, not just playing in that kind of setting. So for example if Select were in Korea but only played in NA online events, he would still be a Korean player since he trains there.
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 24 2011 18:57 GMT
#344
I'm a little bit surprised SeleCt is so low in the poll, this guy is amazing
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Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
September 24 2011 18:59 GMT
#345
really hard to tell imo, but voted for tzain cause im bias^^
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46516 Posts
September 24 2011 18:59 GMT
#346
lol @ IdrA being higher up on the "shouldn't be in the poll for the top foreigner" poll than Kas.

Sure, I don't think IdrA is the #1 foreigner either, but he's significantly better than some of the other names there. And there was a time when he was absolutely in the running for #1 foreigner.

IdrA is definitely a love-him-or-hate-him guy.

Anyways, I'm thinking Thorzain is #1 at the moment
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j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
September 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#347
On September 25 2011 03:57 Yaki wrote:
I'm a little bit surprised SeleCt is so low in the poll, this guy is amazing


yea but the IdrA, Naniwa fans probably changed things a bit.
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Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 19:18:50
September 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#348
SeleCT is KOREAN! With this logic that SeleCT is NA, TLO is Swedish and HuK/Jinro are Korean. Even in his Profile and Tournament-Signups he is Korean.
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Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 19:01:05
September 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#349
1.Thor 2.Sen/Nani 3.Huk/ret others don't even compere with those 5 dudes.
billiebrightside
Profile Joined March 2011
United States150 Posts
September 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#350
As a personality, HuK is the best foreigner imo.
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kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 19:11:41
September 24 2011 19:09 GMT
#351
Dirk Nowitzki is an American
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
September 24 2011 19:10 GMT
#352
In my opinion it's Mana, without doubt. I'm really surprised to see he hasn't gotten more votes, but then again he's a European player with very little community exposure. Not that I'm skilled enough to judge players individual gameplay in any creditable fashion, but when Mana is on the top of his game I feel he's in a league of his own. He's just blown me away lately.
sorro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland4 Posts
September 24 2011 19:12 GMT
#353
Jinro <3 no question about it
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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
September 24 2011 19:13 GMT
#354
On September 25 2011 04:10 Nifel wrote:
In my opinion it's Mana, without doubt. I'm really surprised to see he hasn't gotten more votes, but then again he's a European player with very little community exposure. Not that I'm skilled enough to judge players individual gameplay in any creditable fashion, but when Mana is on the top of his game I feel he's in a league of his own. He's just blown me away lately.


idk i think consistancy is a bigger factor when thinking of best foreigner rather then what hes cappable of.
Ixirawr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States86 Posts
September 24 2011 19:15 GMT
#355
Me. Duh.

Seriously though I think the question doesn't work well. This is a popularity contest.

That said, my vote goes to Huk for his consistancy.
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 20:15:13
September 24 2011 19:19 GMT
#356
I think it should go something like this:
Best player overall: Thorzain
Best foreigner: SeleCt
Best American: Huk
Best European: GoOdY

Oh, and I forgot best Korean: Sen obviously
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 19:21:32
September 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#357
On September 25 2011 04:00 Sith Inquisitor wrote:
SeleCT is KOREAN! If you say SeleCT is NA, you have to say TLO is Swedish and HuK/Jinro are Korean. Even in his Profile and Tournament-Signups he is Korean.

Idk, it's weird. I guess people say SeleCT is a foreigner because he became famous while playing from the US and reaching the top of the NA ladder rather than Korea unlike most other Koreans.
Bajsgrodan
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan408 Posts
September 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#358
Thorzain, Thorzain and Thorzain. He is a total and complete baller with nerves of steele, and he is the one of the most respected foreigners in Korea.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 24 2011 19:24 GMT
#359
On September 25 2011 02:56 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 02:54 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
The fact that Ret is so low yet IdrA is so high is pretty disgusting. xD

Ret/Huk/Thorzain are PROBABLY the best of their respective races. Although it is incredibly easy for me to replace Ret with Stephano/Nerchio/Sen and Huk with Naniwa/Sase/(maybe MaNa). Thorzain is probably the best Terran though


Both idra and ret have more results than Stephano and Nerchio, results matter more than ladder stomping

Sen is going to get worse because he is in Taiwan, no longer playing KR servers and will get worse very quickly.

Clarification : He is focusing on Taiwan esports and tourneys, he is not even top 200 on KR/TW ladder and doesn't practice as much there.




nice quick fix there, what do you know about his practice though, he might not even play on his Sen account.
So much nonsense from you like usualy.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
September 24 2011 19:26 GMT
#360
MorroW should be at the top of that list. His micro and macro are beyond amazing but his results so far have not been great. He even has amazing game knowledge from his mapmaking and race change. He is by far my favorite player, and I wish he could get the spotlight more.
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