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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 24 2011 18:08 GMT
#301
On September 25 2011 02:56 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 02:54 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
The fact that Ret is so low yet IdrA is so high is pretty disgusting. xD

Ret/Huk/Thorzain are PROBABLY the best of their respective races. Although it is incredibly easy for me to replace Ret with Stephano/Nerchio/Sen and Huk with Naniwa/Sase/(maybe MaNa). Thorzain is probably the best Terran though


Both idra and ret have more results than Stephano and Nerchio, results matter more than ladder stomping

Sen is going to get worse because he is in Taiwan, no longer playing KR servers and will get worse very quickly.

Clarification : He is focusing on Taiwan esports and tourneys, he is not even top 200 on KR/TW ladder and doesn't practice as much there.



Uhm... So he was better off in Fnatic in terms of practice partners? :S I dunno, he didn't really participate that much in any Korean events anyway, except for a long time ago in GSL.
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#302
On September 25 2011 03:05 BjC wrote:
Polls like this are quite limiting.. as a few are worthy contenders for my vote. Idra definatly wins the not deserving vote tho, way to much publicicy not enough good performances.

Kas has neither, and is worse than Idra atm, so he's even less deserving
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
September 24 2011 18:10 GMT
#303
Look at TLPD on right, double check to make sure flags are comparable, vote.
Niazger
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany41 Posts
September 24 2011 18:13 GMT
#304
Funny how people say idra has no results. He has won MLG, IPL1 and qualified for every GSL he attended and made it to ro8 once. I think thants more then most people on that list.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
September 24 2011 18:14 GMT
#305
On September 25 2011 03:13 Niazger wrote:
Funny how people say idra has no results. He has won MLG, IPL1 and qualified for every GSL he attended and made it to ro8 once. I think thants more then most people on that list.

Recent results, he have yet to do anything in the past 6 months really
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 24 2011 18:14 GMT
#306
Why is there a need for something like this? It's only going to be a huge popularity contest.

Keeping recent results in mind, it sure looks like Thorzain is the strongest foreign Terran (Select is Korean, guys) AT THE MOMENT. The other races are more difficult to call, and the rankings switch around so much it's really hard to tell anything.

We'll just have to see what guys are still around and being competitive in a year or so (maybe more), and maybe then this will have more merit, but the game has only been out a year (and the expansion is coming, lolololol).

But really, the thread should be "Favourite foreigner" instead of "The Best(fOu)".
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
September 24 2011 18:16 GMT
#307
On September 25 2011 03:13 Niazger wrote:
Funny how people say idra has no results. He has won MLG, IPL1 and qualified for every GSL he attended and made it to ro8 once. I think thants more then most people on that list.


Yes but we are talking now, not 3months ago. Have you watched IdrA recently ? He definitely isn't top5 foreigner anymore. For me it's pretty close between Huk and Thorzain but i'd say Huk since he is still code S. Stephano has the potential to become #1 tho, but is not up there yet.
Kmickelow
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada106 Posts
September 24 2011 18:16 GMT
#308
How is mana even that low, lately hes been on a tare, are people even considering recent success or going by overall success?
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ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
September 24 2011 18:18 GMT
#309
i don't believe Idra got 6% and Mana got 3% that is bullshit. Idra like losing to everyone and Mana owing everyone including Thorzain and Stephano and oh please Select? that guy dont know how to macro
Mass Marine
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
September 24 2011 18:19 GMT
#310
On September 25 2011 03:08 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 02:56 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On September 25 2011 02:54 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
The fact that Ret is so low yet IdrA is so high is pretty disgusting. xD

Ret/Huk/Thorzain are PROBABLY the best of their respective races. Although it is incredibly easy for me to replace Ret with Stephano/Nerchio/Sen and Huk with Naniwa/Sase/(maybe MaNa). Thorzain is probably the best Terran though


Both idra and ret have more results than Stephano and Nerchio, results matter more than ladder stomping

Sen is going to get worse because he is in Taiwan, no longer playing KR servers and will get worse very quickly.

Clarification : He is focusing on Taiwan esports and tourneys, he is not even top 200 on KR/TW ladder and doesn't practice as much there.



Uhm... So he was better off in Fnatic in terms of practice partners? :S I dunno, he didn't really participate that much in any Korean events anyway, except for a long time ago in GSL.


Nerchio went through Ret, Idra, Thorzain... loads of top players to get to the finals of IPL2.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
September 24 2011 18:19 GMT
#311
On September 25 2011 03:16 Kmickelow wrote:
How is mana even that low, lately hes been on a tare, are people even considering recent success or going by overall success?


Mana isn't hyped by the community, even though he's outperforming basically everyone else right now. And all that matters in these polls is hype and personality apparently.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
September 24 2011 18:22 GMT
#312
The not deserving poll is....lol
ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
September 24 2011 18:22 GMT
#313
oh and Mana and Stephano is a level above Huk ( If not everyone in the poll apart from Thorzain of course) Mana best foreigner protoss , Stephano best foreigner Zerg and Thorzain best foreigner Terran
Mass Marine
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 24 2011 18:25 GMT
#314
On September 25 2011 03:22 ForlornHope wrote:
oh and Mana and Stephano is a level above Huk ( If not everyone in the poll apart from Thorzain of course) Mana best foreigner protoss , Stephano best foreigner Zerg and Thorzain best foreigner Terran

Stephano/Nerchio shouldnt be counted amongst top before they have shown they can hold their own against Koreans
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Klaas
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
September 24 2011 18:32 GMT
#315
On September 25 2011 03:25 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 03:22 ForlornHope wrote:
oh and Mana and Stephano is a level above Huk ( If not everyone in the poll apart from Thorzain of course) Mana best foreigner protoss , Stephano best foreigner Zerg and Thorzain best foreigner Terran

Stephano/Nerchio shouldnt be counted amongst top before they have shown they can hold their own against Koreans


They've shown that already.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 24 2011 18:33 GMT
#316
On September 25 2011 03:32 Klaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 03:25 Aocowns wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:22 ForlornHope wrote:
oh and Mana and Stephano is a level above Huk ( If not everyone in the poll apart from Thorzain of course) Mana best foreigner protoss , Stephano best foreigner Zerg and Thorzain best foreigner Terran

Stephano/Nerchio shouldnt be counted amongst top before they have shown they can hold their own against Koreans


They've shown that already.


At what LAN?
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
September 24 2011 18:36 GMT
#317
Not sure how Idra can even be in such a poll, I wouldn't consider him amongst the Top20 foreign players even.

I'd consider Thorzain to be the best at the moment, with Stephano and Huk in second and third.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 18:37:49
September 24 2011 18:36 GMT
#318
Just that u know the OP's opinion

i go with
1) Thorzain
2) Huk
3) Stephano
4) Naniwa
5) MaNa
6) SeleCt/Sen
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 18:38:28
September 24 2011 18:37 GMT
#319
so biaised poll just wait for ipl and MLG please
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
September 24 2011 18:37 GMT
#320
On September 25 2011 03:33 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 03:32 Klaas wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:25 Aocowns wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:22 ForlornHope wrote:
oh and Mana and Stephano is a level above Huk ( If not everyone in the poll apart from Thorzain of course) Mana best foreigner protoss , Stephano best foreigner Zerg and Thorzain best foreigner Terran

Stephano/Nerchio shouldnt be counted amongst top before they have shown they can hold their own against Koreans


They've shown that already.


At what LAN?


IPL3 Qual. That's not a LAN but yeah can't dispute the skill it took to go through that many Koreans..
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