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Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
September 24 2011 10:42 GMT
#121
the problem with sc2con was that even though the foreign scene has taken off to much in sc2, the koreans want to make all the decisions themselves. unlike kespa which represents 99% of broodwar sc2con represented 20% of sc2, and tried to make decisions which affected everyone

no wonder they couldnt achieve anything

yet it sounds like they just want kespa2, still not respecting the foreign scenes importance to the game
Where there's smoke, there's me
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 24 2011 11:15 GMT
#122
They had no power was the problem.. KeSPA has an iron grip on bw while sc2con had little-none
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
September 24 2011 11:36 GMT
#123
Nothing too surprising really.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 24 2011 11:37 GMT
#124
It stayed around for a lot longer than I thought it would.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
JustinMartin
Profile Joined November 2010
159 Posts
September 24 2011 11:56 GMT
#125
i think its good for esports
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
September 24 2011 12:17 GMT
#126
I think this is a good thing, with what leaked durng the last month...
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
September 24 2011 12:18 GMT
#127
Can i just ask whether this means that players in teams can stream now?
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
September 24 2011 12:19 GMT
#128
Not that it really matters now, but isn't it called "S2Con"?

I remember S2Con getting very miffed with NASL for attributing Korean withdrawal to "SC2Con."
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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
September 24 2011 12:20 GMT
#129
On September 24 2011 12:16 Spacekyod wrote:
Too bad NASL has already started. Oh well, there is always next season.

sc2con had nothing with that to do -_-
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 24 2011 12:21 GMT
#130
I don't think the foreign scene was very aware of SC2con anyway, it was kind of this... weird entity that not many people knew what was. So I guess I feel indifferent on this, to some extent.
memes are a dish best served dank
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
September 24 2011 12:23 GMT
#131
The necessary evil is dead. I hope for a brighter future
A time to live.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
September 24 2011 12:34 GMT
#132
We dont really need a committe to make the rules of the game, but more to look for more sponsors, globalise SC2 and make sure all players are in good condition, and that teams stay alive
John 15:13
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 24 2011 12:38 GMT
#133
Hmm..

Kinda expected tbh. Didn't seem like they had much control over the scene, which they need to actual be able to do everything.
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
September 24 2011 12:47 GMT
#134
"Hell... it's about time"- Tychus Findlay

With Sc2con disbanding, Korean pros can stream again right?
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 24 2011 12:57 GMT
#135
Does anyone know how the meeting between FXOBoss and SC2Con went? I remember him posting some accusations, which prompted SC2Con to ask for a meeting to discuss things in September

I wonder if this has anything to do with the disband?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 24 2011 12:58 GMT
#136
On September 24 2011 21:57 ELA wrote:
Does anyone know how the meeting between FXOBoss and SC2Con went? I remember him posting some accusations, which prompted SC2Con to ask for a meeting to discuss things in September

I wonder if this has anything to do with the disband?


Given this statement as soon as the news broke, possible?


On September 24 2011 12:15 FXOpen wrote:
I didn't resolve my situation, but I do believe this is the best for the people in involved.

I wish everyone in south korea the best!

But I think Kespa is incoming.

Thank God and gunrun.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 24 2011 13:09 GMT
#137
On September 24 2011 21:58 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 21:57 ELA wrote:
Does anyone know how the meeting between FXOBoss and SC2Con went? I remember him posting some accusations, which prompted SC2Con to ask for a meeting to discuss things in September

I wonder if this has anything to do with the disband?


Given this statement as soon as the news broke, possible?


Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 12:15 FXOpen wrote:
I didn't resolve my situation, but I do believe this is the best for the people in involved.

I wish everyone in south korea the best!

But I think Kespa is incoming.



Ah I missed that :o - On page 1 as well!

Boss needs a FXO-icon tbh

Anyone know if the meeting actually took place?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Vindubs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States110 Posts
September 24 2011 13:17 GMT
#138
this is not a good thing....this will lead to Kespa sc2. A strong arm organization that is going to regulate every aspect of Organized SC2. From foreigners coming into Korea to Koreans go to foreigner tournaments. team swaps,player swaps, mergers, all this will fall under a new KeSpa which will now use theyre powers to form Sc2 in what they want it to be.

Mark my words.
Stephano,Sase,Naniwa HWAITING!
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 13:40:06
September 24 2011 13:37 GMT
#139
On September 24 2011 22:17 Vindubs wrote:
this is not a good thing....this will lead to Kespa sc2. A strong arm organization that is going to regulate every aspect of Organized SC2. From foreigners coming into Korea to Koreans go to foreigner tournaments. team swaps,player swaps, mergers, all this will fall under a new KeSpa which will now use theyre powers to form Sc2 in what they want it to be.

Mark my words.

Everything you said only applies to the Korean scene. Mousesports, EG, complexity, Liquid and the other big teams (as well as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG and the other major tournaments in the world) and everything that's happening in SC2 over the world would not be affected.

Isolation inevitably leads to decline in a global community like the SC2 scene. It would be the death knell of SC2 in Korea (or at least majorly stunt its growth), while it would continue to flourish everywhere else.

No one interested in seeing SC2 fulfill its potential as the premiere e-sport of the future should ask for a Kespa 2.0.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 24 2011 13:46 GMT
#140
SC2con was dead in my eyes when I heard that they

1) were responsible for less Koreans in NASL because while only some of the teams weren't happy, everyone else had to bow out due to SC2con forcing "solidarity" - basically, if one team doesn't want to play, no one plays. Without SC2con, we would've had more Korean players than the 6 (on non-Korean teams) we have now, make no mistake.

2) do not allow pro players streaming. Disgusting that an organisation could make that decision for every team and every player instead of leaving it up to them.

3) did attempt to strong-arm FXO and choya to comply with their demands. They had no right and no control to intervene in internal team affairs like they did, and the way they tried to get their way was fucking shameful (harassment, threats, blackmail).
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