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generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
September 23 2011 19:30 GMT
#121
Just curious, what if a player like Nestea applies? I believe he has said that he doesn't care about Ladder and just screws around on it. Especially in korea, there are players that are top tier but just don't care much about ladder so they are not that high in ladder. I believe I remember seeing that IMMVP was only rank 1 masters on Korea.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
September 23 2011 19:32 GMT
#122
Must be tough on the player to have to suggest their own salaries...aim high gents, aim high.
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#123
Just because they want top 20 NA/top 100 EU/top 100 KR doesn't mean they think that's where each of them are roughly equal.

It could just be that they want to focus on EU, so they have stricter requirements for NA/KR (yes 100 KR is stricter than 100 EU).

I mean most of their players are from eastern europe and their activities are all in that area, so of course they are more lenient on their EU applicants.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
September 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#124
On September 24 2011 04:30 generalyao wrote:
Just curious, what if a player like Nestea applies? I believe he has said that he doesn't care about Ladder and just screws around on it. Especially in korea, there are players that are top tier but just don't care much about ladder so they are not that high in ladder. I believe I remember seeing that IMMVP was only rank 1 masters on Korea.



I can't tell if you are serious... I'm sure they know the players and the scene.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 23 2011 19:35 GMT
#125
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 23 2011 19:35 GMT
#126
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.


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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 23 2011 19:37 GMT
#127
On September 24 2011 04:29 Sina92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.



He's from EG, obviously he prefers poaching players in an ill mannered fashion.

I like the way Na'Vi are approaching the scene, creds & props to them. Good luck to them aswell.


Hey look it's a guy from the forum! Obviously he prefers to make dick posts and contribute nothing while trying to drive away actual intimate perspective!

Am I doing it right?
VirGin
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway278 Posts
September 23 2011 19:38 GMT
#128
If any team in the world has teh $$$ to rival EG and FXO it's gonna be Na'Vi, and they tend to be notoriously effective at winning stuff.

So this should be interesting.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 19:38:43
September 23 2011 19:38 GMT
#129
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


There are plenty of unscouted talents that can be gathered through small/local tournaments. These reflect a lot more the player's predisposition to play professionally then ladder ranking.
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Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
September 23 2011 19:38 GMT
#130
On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.



I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 23 2011 19:41 GMT
#131
On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.



I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad.


Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really?

When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them.

Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 19:46:16
September 23 2011 19:42 GMT
#132
On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.

I wouldn't argue with you over the game itself in a million years but all the things surrounding pro-gaming and the scene I wouldn't necessarily take your word as absolute truth. Opinions differ between pro's, don't they? Appeal to authority ftw.

It's way too early for you (and everyone else) to come in here and start complaining about their recruitment process. As he said the ladder ranking is essentially just a minimum requirement put in place in order to weed out some of the potential applicants.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44563 Posts
September 23 2011 19:42 GMT
#133
On September 24 2011 03:59 Dattish wrote:
Everyone keeps loling at Na'Vi, and then when they least expect it they end up crushing everything. Their CS and Dota teams says it all.


CS =/= SC2...

And their requirements show that they haven't put in the proper research to even look at the right groups of people >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#134
I'm sure with Na'Vi can put together a great team.

They were one of the first, most enthusiastic official organizations that supported our SkillCraft study.

GL Na'Vi!
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
September 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#135
I can't tell if incontrol is joking or on one of his usual "you're forum nobody, your opinion is worth shit" trips.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 23 2011 19:45 GMT
#136
Lots of American tears in this thread.

tree.hugger telling it like it is.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 23 2011 19:46 GMT
#137
On September 24 2011 04:42 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.


Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more.

I wouldn't argue with you over the game itself in a million years but all the things surrounding pro-gaming and the scene I wouldn't necessarily take your word as absolute truth. Opinions differ between pro's, don't they? Appeal to authority ftw.


I didn't say you can only listen to progamers. I said you might benefit from listening a bit more.. this is evident here. You tried to be a dick and take a jab at EG when I said this method of recruiting was bad. They (Na'vi) clarified that indeed I was correct, ladder rank is a bottom line not the defining factor).

It gets old each time I post on this forum some random dude can't just address my point but instead has to attack my team, me, my performance etc.. this place was my home before you knew what SC was. I hate that I share it with a bunch of 13 year old haters now.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 19:47:52
September 23 2011 19:46 GMT
#138
Edit: oops
Bora Pain minha porra!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44563 Posts
September 23 2011 19:46 GMT
#139
On September 24 2011 04:29 Sina92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:
On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.

NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.

Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options.

Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment.



He's from EG, obviously he prefers poaching players in an ill mannered fashion.

I like the way Na'Vi are approaching the scene, creds & props to them. Good luck to them aswell.


1. Irrelevant
2. Uncalled for
3. Wrong

The top three reasons why your post is useless.

Anyways, I hope Na'Vi actually makes it big in SC2. It would be interesting to have another big team to compete with the others.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 23 2011 19:48 GMT
#140
yea i think the top 20 / top 100 thing is just because theyre EU based maybe?
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