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Felix_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany59 Posts
September 23 2011 18:38 GMT
#81
weird recruitment method tbh
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44563 Posts
September 23 2011 18:38 GMT
#82
On September 24 2011 03:23 Snorkle wrote:
Lol @ tyler not knowing anything about the CS or dota scene. Na'vi is kinda legendary.

However, not sure this is the best way to step into the SC2 scene (although they already have with little success obviously).

Also ladder ranking is silly. Socke is #101 on EU right now and Vibe is #53 on NA. I am pretty sure if these players weren't taken it would be dumb of Na'vi to tell them "sorry you don't meet our ladder requirements."

They should actually scout their players instead of making up arbitrary requirements.


Agreed. They may be good in the other scenes, but they're way too arrogant (or is it ignorance?) to come up with these arbitrary requirements.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 23 2011 18:39 GMT
#83
On September 24 2011 03:38 Snorkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 03:36 KimJongChill wrote:
Lol, desired salary? Are they a rich team? Sounds like it.


They just won 1 million dollars in a Dota 2 tournament and have had one of the most successful 1.6 teams besides so I would say they have plenty of money.

nop. they are man city of esports. some rich guy formed a team couple years ago
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:44:04
September 23 2011 18:40 GMT
#84
On September 24 2011 02:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Whaaaaaat is that a joke name? Where do they get their name from?

oh nm I see natus vincere. wow that is really unfortunate.. they should change their tag

As a CS 1.6 player I can provide some background info on this ^_^ (Wall of Text Incoming)

Originally Na'Vi didn't mean Natus Vincere. It honestly meant nothing at all.

Players from 2 Teams (HellRaisers and KerchNET) decided to merge and form one team. This new team ended up getting sponsored by Murat 'Arbalet' Zhumashevich from Kazakhstan. A rich man who really loved esports and wanted to show that the CIS countries could compete at the highest level.

The team originally used /A/ as there tag in honor of there sponsor, but he told them they could and should pick there team name and tag since it was there team. They ended up using Na'Vi as there tag for there first even but then the players decided to turn to the community for help on there new name. They set up a contest and said they would pick the name they liked the best out of the suggestions and use that.

They ended up not falling in love with any of the suggestions, but really liked the ideas that used latin words so they found two latin words that would still fit into there old tag of Na'Vi and had meaning (Natus Vincere = Born to Win).

So originally it meant nothing and was probably just a reference to the movie Avatar (since Avatar had just come out around this time) and then they decided to give it a meaning.

TL;DR
Rich Guy from Kazakhstan sponsors team of CS players from the Ukraine.
Team uses Na'Vi randomly at event.
Decided to let the community name the team and opened a naming contest .
Didn't like any of the names but like the use of latin in some.
Gave the meaningless tag a meaning.

------------History lesson over------------

I think Na'Vi have a decently sized purse so the quality of players they are apply to get should be pretty high BUT! I think there qualifications are, for lack of a better word, stupid.

None the less I wish them all the luck in the world and hope they find some talented players to back :D
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 23 2011 18:41 GMT
#85
LOL at the top 100 GM in EU = top 100 GM in KR.

Pretty cool news though, hope they get some decent players.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Klaas
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
September 23 2011 18:41 GMT
#86
On September 24 2011 03:39 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 03:38 Snorkle wrote:
On September 24 2011 03:36 KimJongChill wrote:
Lol, desired salary? Are they a rich team? Sounds like it.


They just won 1 million dollars in a Dota 2 tournament and have had one of the most successful 1.6 teams besides so I would say they have plenty of money.

nop. they are man city of esports. some rich guy formed a team couple years ago


Their teams are still mostly Ukrainian.
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
September 23 2011 18:42 GMT
#87
On September 24 2011 03:40 yawnoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Whaaaaaat is that a joke name? Where do they get their name from?

oh nm I see natus vincere. wow that is really unfortunate.. they should change their tag

As a CS 1.6 player I can provide some background info on this ^_^

Originally Na'Vi didn't mean Natus Vincere. It honestly meant nothing at all.

Players from 2 Teams (HellRaisers and KerchNET) decided to merge and form one team. This new team ended up getting sponsored by Murat 'Arbalet' Zhumashevich from Kazakhstan. A rich man who really loved esports and wanted to show that the CIS countries could compete at the highest level.

The team originally used /A/ as there tag in honor of there sponsor, but he told them they could and should pick there team name and tag since it was there team. They ended up using Na'Vi as there tag for there first even but then the players decided to turn to the community for help on there new name. They set up a contest and said they would pick the name they liked the best out of the suggestions and use that.

They ended up not falling in love with any of the suggestions, but really liked the ideas that used latin words so they found two latin words that would still fit into there old tag of Na'Vi and had meaning (Natus Vincere = Born to Win).

So originally it meant nothing and was probably just a reference to the movie Avatar (since Avatar had just come out around this time) and then they decided to give it a meaning.

------------History lesson over------------

I think Na'Vi have a decently sized purse so the quality of players they are apply to get should be pretty high BUT! I think there qualifications are, for lack of a better word, stupid.

None the less I wish them all the luck in the world and hope they find some talented players to back :D


woah nice! didn't know that :D
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 23 2011 18:43 GMT
#88
Yeah, their name is indeed very unfortunate... the "Natus Vincere" crap is just an after-thought to save it from copyright claims.
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:46:05
September 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#89
On September 24 2011 03:38 Felix_ wrote:
weird recruitment method tbh

u mean application method - they're not in just for having a good ladder rank(i hope). not that weird...other option to buy people from other teams?? top players are in teams
although if it's a pro whos "contract is expiring" like it says in the reqs, the ladde rrank shoulndt matter thats true
higher req for NA = they rather want eu players (eu team)
Kindream
Profile Joined September 2011
Estonia66 Posts
September 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#90
You are getting pretty good at this game, have broken into the top of the GM, each game you play is against someone from a famous team you love watching and cheering on tournaments. You play for hours each day, you do it "solo" for you have not been active in the tournament/team scene. You are young, a newcomer! Untested. A gem?

These are requirements, nothing else. You may be TOP10 GM, and you might not get into the team. Na'Vi are a great E-sports team, they know what they want -- and it isn't to approach other teams about their players. They want someone new, someone willing to go the extra steps to prove themselves worthy. Sure most of the GM rankings are filled with people you know from long past -- members of famous teams, some who do not wish to be part of a team -- however there are people there who I, for a humble example, have never heard about. EG/Liquid/CoL/&co most likely won't even notice them, but Na'Vi are giving them a chance.

Imagine them receiving twenty applications -- one, or two, of the players might become (in a team environment) brilliant.

/2cents
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#91
Cool news to see more organizations get into the SC2 scene. Na'Vi has a crazy CS and DotA team.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
September 23 2011 18:45 GMT
#92
On September 24 2011 03:19 ViperaViRuS wrote:
Absolutely idiotic requirements of Top 100 Korea or EU and Top 20 of NA. There's a reason why Code B is the Top 400 of Korea... and that there are notable Korean players that are in Code B still (Just due to the level of competition within Korea).

Additionally, what's with the elitism assuming that EU is equivalent to KR? and that only the Top 20 NA can compare?

Lastly, Grandmasters ladder ranks vary so much day to day... you can be Rank 10 one day and fall down to Rank 100 if you're on Tilt and lose several games in a row regardless of region...

[/Rant]

I do look forward to seeing who they pick up though just due to their prior success with other games.



Because NA ladder filled with people like Deezer, Combatex and bunch of other people who can just casually play sc2, and still be GM, same in Europe. Until GM League will not be a place of "real" pro gamers then EU and NA will fall behind. NA will fall more then EU.
Issi
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway45 Posts
September 23 2011 18:45 GMT
#93
Watch their best protoss player The_13abyknight in Craftcup right now! : )
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Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
September 23 2011 18:47 GMT
#94
top100 KR ladder is far beyond top 1 US / Eu
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 23 2011 18:47 GMT
#95
On September 24 2011 03:44 zoLo wrote:
Cool news to see more organizations get into the SC2 scene. Na'Vi has a crazy CS and DotA team.


Na'vi has been in the Sc2 scene for a while now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
September 23 2011 18:49 GMT
#96
No comment on the EUvsNAvsKR ladders, but to anyone bashing their extremely high standards for application, you should realize that they only want the best players and will support them like no other team can.

They are at the top in essentially every game they sponsor, and it makes sense that they want to be the best in SC2 as well. They're certainly not a team that is looking for bargain players.
Drolla
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom389 Posts
September 23 2011 18:49 GMT
#97
The requiremnt for a ladder rank is pretty silly, basically every player in the top 20 of the NA ladder will be part of a highly reputable team, same with the top 100 Korean ladder requirement. There might be some players from the EU who meet the requirements and are interested in joining but the number shall be very small.
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
September 23 2011 18:49 GMT
#98
so where is the pro house for navi? in russia? (is that russian characters? i am bad with recognizing foreign languages).

if so that might be why they are taking only top 20 from US, bigger flight costs and such? i dunno
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 23 2011 18:53 GMT
#99
On September 24 2011 03:45 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 03:19 ViperaViRuS wrote:
Absolutely idiotic requirements of Top 100 Korea or EU and Top 20 of NA. There's a reason why Code B is the Top 400 of Korea... and that there are notable Korean players that are in Code B still (Just due to the level of competition within Korea).

Additionally, what's with the elitism assuming that EU is equivalent to KR? and that only the Top 20 NA can compare?

Lastly, Grandmasters ladder ranks vary so much day to day... you can be Rank 10 one day and fall down to Rank 100 if you're on Tilt and lose several games in a row regardless of region...

[/Rant]

I do look forward to seeing who they pick up though just due to their prior success with other games.



Because NA ladder filled with people like Deezer, Combatex and bunch of other people who can just casually play sc2, and still be GM, same in Europe. Until GM League will not be a place of "real" pro gamers then EU and NA will fall behind. NA will fall more then EU.


While NA is easier then EU, EU is a lot easier then Korea in terms of GM. Pretty silly requirements they should go by talent not ladder as there are players who can only do good on ladder but never do well in tournaments for whatever reason ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 23 2011 18:53 GMT
#100
On September 24 2011 03:38 Snorkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 03:36 KimJongChill wrote:
Lol, desired salary? Are they a rich team? Sounds like it.


They just won 1 million dollars in a Dota 2 tournament and have had one of the most successful 1.6 teams besides so I would say they have plenty of money.


steelseries just released a na vi headset as well

sponsors love na vi because they always win
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