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Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
September 23 2011 17:59 GMT
#41
On September 24 2011 02:56 Fionn wrote:
They want Europeans on the team. Europeans on an European team is marketable. They also would be lucky to get a Korean, so they're having way less tight ladder limits on them. Probably the only way they get an American on the team is if he's really, really talented and skilled.


This makes perfect sense to me considering that they are a team based in Ukraine, so players from Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Europe, etc. will fit much better. GL to any top players that join the team. It really seems like a top tier esports team.
rea1ity
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom385 Posts
September 23 2011 17:59 GMT
#42
On September 24 2011 02:57 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:55 rea1ity wrote:
On September 24 2011 02:50 Schenkee wrote:
Interesting, but surly it should be top 20eu/na and top 100 kr :/


Lmao EU ladder shits all over NA and rapes it with no lubrication...


It is a good thing there is no cross realm ladder matches to prove this. Yes the US ladder is weaker near the top, but saying the European ladder is the same skill as the Korean ladder is pretty ignorant as well.


I never made such claims I was merely providing opinions to a response.

그 스타 크래프트의 꿈, 그 꿈 생활
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 23 2011 18:00 GMT
#43
Doesn't really matter what is true: if NA is ladder is equal to EU.
It's Na'Vi's perspective, agree or not, doesn't change anything.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
September 23 2011 18:01 GMT
#44
Don't make drama out of nothing...
Na'vi is a really big team, its cool that they are getting more involved in sc2
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
September 23 2011 18:03 GMT
#45
To anyone considering to join them, pls do.

Na'Vi did a freaking excellent job with both CS and Dota teams (dota team won the 1mil in august), it would be really sad for them to not get the proper attention in SC.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
September 23 2011 18:04 GMT
#46
even the NA pros say that NA ladder is really bad and the main reason is that most NA pros ladder on EU. i think it's pretty accurate to say that eu ladder is 5 times better then NA but KR is also 10 times better then EU.
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
September 23 2011 18:04 GMT
#47
On September 24 2011 02:53 zere wrote:
Fyi Navi has an SC2 team since months, their players are listed on their website.
This inaccurate titles surprises me, since they themselves should be the first to know that they have a team... I smell some drama popping internally, unfortunately.


I've just copied the title off their FB page http://www.facebook.com/NatusVincere
and I've included that they have an existing SC2 lineup in OP
I love Lindsey Sporrer :)
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 23 2011 18:05 GMT
#48
I am kinda intressed to know how much ppl are asking salary
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 23 2011 18:07 GMT
#49
Haha, they require higher of NA players.

Let the shit-flinging ensue!
memes are a dish best served dank
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:09:54
September 23 2011 18:09 GMT
#50
On September 24 2011 03:04 Ophi13 wrote:
I've just copied the title off their FB page http://www.facebook.com/NatusVincere
and I've included that they have an existing SC2 lineup in OP


Yeah sorry I didn't mean your thread title; they actually worded it themselves just like that in the English translation on their homepage.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:10:40
September 23 2011 18:09 GMT
#51
On September 24 2011 02:52 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Whaaaaaat is that a joke name? Where do they get their name from?


google much? Natus Vincere
It's also "Ivan" (a common Ukrainian / Russain name) read backwards. I'm pretty sure that's the reason to use that particular latin phrase.

Eg: Ivan 'Artstyle' Antonov

Anyway, I'm not surprised, they were streaming SC2, and I guessed they have interest in getting serious team presence.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
September 23 2011 18:10 GMT
#52
Watch as all their excellent players have no results anywhere ever.

Because SC2 actually takes some skill :D

More people into the scene isn't a bad thing though
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#53
Well you can't deny these guys know what they're doing when it comes to DOTA anyway- million bucks is a lot of money!
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:14:10
September 23 2011 18:12 GMT
#54
i know their cs1.6 team has won a shit ton of money, ~300k in 1½ years? and their dota team won the dota 2 million dollars...maybe they get some good playre on sc2 too
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
September 23 2011 18:13 GMT
#55
I love Na'Vi as a team. They are all hardworking and great players. Hope to see them have some great pick ups!
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
TimeFlighT
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia257 Posts
September 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#56
Wow, top 100 EU GM requirement and top 20 GM requirement if you're in NA?

GM in NA are known as cheese defenders.

So much elitism.
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:17:00
September 23 2011 18:16 GMT
#57
There are two kind of threads on TL : - Is IdrA the best foreigner zerg? and - EU vs NA ladder

Every single thread -_-
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 18:17:33
September 23 2011 18:16 GMT
#58
Some people doubt the legitimacy of Na'Vi? I don't really follow CS or DotA but even then it's hard to not know them since they rip everything apart there.

Also, no one should take the ladder requirements too serious. I guess it means "if you can't make XX in ladder, then don't even try to apply." They obviously prefer (East-)European players, hence the ladder region bias.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 23 2011 18:18 GMT
#59
Despite their ridiculous application system, they are an outstanding team. They do an excellent job of supporting their players and dominate other esports. No reason they won't build a world-class SC2 team.
ViperaViRuS
Profile Joined May 2011
United States82 Posts
September 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#60
Absolutely idiotic requirements of Top 100 Korea or EU and Top 20 of NA. There's a reason why Code B is the Top 400 of Korea... and that there are notable Korean players that are in Code B still (Just due to the level of competition within Korea).

Additionally, what's with the elitism assuming that EU is equivalent to KR? and that only the Top 20 NA can compare?

Lastly, Grandmasters ladder ranks vary so much day to day... you can be Rank 10 one day and fall down to Rank 100 if you're on Tilt and lose several games in a row regardless of region...

[/Rant]

I do look forward to seeing who they pick up though just due to their prior success with other games.
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