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On September 24 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad. Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really? When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them. Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick.
First of all I'd like for you to relax.
Now that you're calm, you can think rationally.
You don't know anything about my in game performances. I'm a high master on EU servers, so nothing to brag about. Then again, I don't "put my life" into this game (yet hopefully :D). Also, I don't go on forums and shit talk people. I gave my honest opinion about YOU because you bm'd a user in this thread and told him to listen more (indicating that he should listen to progamers, in this case you). IMO you are not one to be telling people to listen to others, in fact very few should do that. He was expressing himself and you ought to respect that.
Also, I'd gladly 1v1 you any day and claim that "match that people care about". PM me for my user info if interested :-).
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On September 24 2011 04:46 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:42 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I wouldn't argue with you over the game itself in a million years but all the things surrounding pro-gaming and the scene I wouldn't necessarily take your word as absolute truth. Opinions differ between pro's, don't they? Appeal to authority ftw. I didn't say you can only listen to progamers. I said you might benefit from listening a bit more.. this is evident here. You tried to be a dick and take a jab at EG when I said this method of recruiting was bad. They (Na'vi) clarified that indeed I was correct, ladder rank is a bottom line not the defining factor). It gets old each time I post on this forum some random dude can't just address my point but instead has to attack my team, me, my performance etc.. this place was my home before you knew what SC was. I hate that I share it with a bunch of 13 year old haters now.
Well, maybe that was a bit unnecessary, but somewhere in there I had a point I was trying to bring forth as well. Why would you criticize their recruitment process, which is something I can only assume you know fairly little about, if you can't take a small jab at the way eg recruits?
It's annoying that a big organisation announces that they would like to get more involved with sc2, and everyone just starts bitching about some arbitrary minimum requirement they put in place.
For the record I've been playing starcraft since it's very release. 
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On September 24 2011 04:49 Sina92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad. Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really? When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them. Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick. First of all I'd like for you to relax. Now that you're calm, you can think rationally. You don't know anything about my in game performances. I'm a high master on EU servers, so nothing to brag about. Then again, I don't "put my life" into this game (yet hopefully :D). Also, I don't go on forums and shit talk people. I gave my honest opinion about YOU because you bm'd a user in this thread and told him to listen more (indicating that he should listen to progamers, in this case you). IMO you are not one to be telling people to listen to others, in fact very few should do that. He was expressing himself and you ought to respect that. Also, I'd gladly 1v1 you any day and claim that "match that people care about". PM me for my user info if interested :-).
You're being an asshole to a guy who's defending his team and you tell him to calm down and think rationally?
*clap clap clap
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On September 24 2011 04:49 Sina92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad. Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really? When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them. Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick. First of all I'd like for you to relax. Now that you're calm, you can think rationally. You don't know anything about my in game performances. I'm a high master on EU servers, so nothing to brag about. Then again, I don't "put my life" into this game (yet hopefully :D). Also, I don't go on forums and shit talk people. I gave my honest opinion about YOU because you bm'd a user in this thread and told him to listen more (indicating that he should listen to progamers, in this case you). IMO you are not one to be telling people to listen to others, in fact very few should do that. He was expressing himself and you ought to respect that. Also, I'd gladly 1v1 you any day and claim that "match that people care about". PM me for my user info if interested :-).
check your inbox buddy it's coming any second now!! Keep checking bawwwwwdy
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Don't see why people are overreacting, these guys are the EG of CS/Dota. They have the best teams and send them everywhere. The minimums they set are so that people apply as opposed to them 'stealing' players of other teams, which given the amount of drama with almost every 'purchase' might be viable alternative.
On September 24 2011 04:37 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:29 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. He's from EG, obviously he prefers poaching players in an ill mannered fashion. I like the way Na'Vi are approaching the scene, creds & props to them. Good luck to them aswell. Hey look it's a guy from the forum! Obviously he prefers to make dick posts and contribute nothing while trying to drive away actual intimate perspective! Am I doing it right?
You shouldn't take this personally, you of all people should remember what it is to make fun of people like killer/backho when they could have stomped the entire foreign scene.
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Its really surprising that they would try to compare the EU ladder to the Korean ladder when every European who has gone to Korea to practice has said that the Korean ladder is much harder. Jinro, HuK, Sase have all said this, to name a few.
Na'Vi sounds like a joke of an organization if they can't even get their facts straight.
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On September 24 2011 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really surprising that they would try to compare the EU ladder to the Korean ladder when every European who has gone to Korea to practice has said that the Korean ladder is much harder. Jinro, HuK, Sase have all said this, to name a few.
Na'Vi sounds like a joke of an organization if they can't even get their facts straight.
How obvious is it that they would prefer European players?
That doesnt mean they think 100 kr = 100 eu it's just that they want either a)good american b)good european c)good korean players. They can't set it at 500 kr because then they would be swamped with requests.
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On September 24 2011 04:49 Sina92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad. Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really? When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them. Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick. First of all I'd like for you to relax. Now that you're calm, you can think rationally. You don't know anything about my in game performances. I'm a high master on EU servers, so nothing to brag about. Then again, I don't "put my life" into this game (yet hopefully :D). Also, I don't go on forums and shit talk people. I gave my honest opinion about YOU because you bm'd a user in this thread and told him to listen more (indicating that he should listen to progamers, in this case you). IMO you are not one to be telling people to listen to others, in fact very few should do that. He was expressing himself and you ought to respect that. Also, I'd gladly 1v1 you any day and claim that "match that people care about". PM me for my user info if interested :-).
Hey,
you posted to me before I ever replied to him. SO NO you weren't bm'ing me because I bm'd him. You are an idiot who either is lying on a forum where we have text to go off of OR you are a time traveler who KNEW I would respond to him so you pre posted in response to my post in the future???
But that is all an explanation I don't owe you. I don't have to know anything about your in game performance to know all I need to know about you. You realize the fact I don't know ANYTHING about you IS my point? I am on two shows where we discuss SC2. I literally do SC2 12~14 hours a day where all I do is consume content / play.
You then attack my performance after attacking my team saying I shouldn't have a word or something. I am giving you far more attention than you deserve but seriously.. after having your actions laid out for you is it at all ambiguous how wrong you are?
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On September 24 2011 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really surprising that they would try to compare the EU ladder to the Korean ladder when every European who has gone to Korea to practice has said that the Korean ladder is much harder.
Na'Vi sounds like a joke of an organization if they can't even get their facts straight.
They imply that euro and korean servers are superior then NA... which is true... They are european and know that the korean server has the best players. I don't think they need someone who jumps to conclusions, as a fan anywho.
GL to Na'Vi with their recruitment and hope to see you guys in the new year.
Another organization giving more opportunities for players to grow.
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On September 24 2011 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really surprising that they would try to compare the EU ladder to the Korean ladder when every European who has gone to Korea to practice has said that the Korean ladder is much harder. Jinro, HuK, Sase have all said this, to name a few.
Na'Vi sounds like a joke of an organization if they can't even get their facts straight.
That joke organization just won $1.000.000 in a tournament other than CS, and has the most stable CS team for the last years.
It's their organization, it's their call to recruit whether from ladder or their eye-colours and it's a nice thing they are acknowledging team liquid and posting about their initiatives. It's not their job or responsibility to satisfy forum readers with their ways.
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On September 24 2011 04:46 Sbrubbles wrote:
Edit: oops
I don't know why you edited it, but i will reply anyway.
No, he's not right. There's NO recruting via ladder, it's just one of things you need if you want to apply. It's not like "if you're top10 we take you asap, if you're top50 you have a chance, if you're top100 it will be hard". It's just minimum boundary. Do you think they would take Deezer if he was the highest ranked player from all that applied? Of course not.
This would NEVER EVER be an issue if they didn't mention top20 NA/top100 EU which brought bunch of butthurt NA players (just go through the topic and see who got mad about it).
btw, anyone else finds it very funny and ironic that after incontrol's EU jokes on sotg he comes here defending the pride of NA server?
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Ladder hardly means anything, the qualifications are absolutely retarded. They should be buying established players like complexity is, instead of searching for ladder heroes like combat ex and PiQLiQ
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On September 24 2011 04:55 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:49 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:41 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:38 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:35 iNcontroL wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. Bad timing I guess but 2 posts after yours it becomes evident why you are better off not arguing with progamers about progaming and just listening a bit more. I'm sure if a pro player approached them they would take him seriously, regardless of his ladder record. You should know this. Also, last time I checked, progamers won a few games now and then. Big talkers who can't perform is just humorous and slightly sad. Seriously? You want to call me out for my performance in MLG seeding and progaming when you are a scrub who sits on the forum and shit talks people that put their lives into this game? Really? When was the last time you won ANY match that people care about? In my worst slump I beat choya / drewbie and others.. these are people you couldn't get a game with because nobody cares about you. but if you could you'd go 0-100 against them. Sorry to bust out the thunder stick on you but you seem to be a special form of bad so I needed to put you in your place real quick. First of all I'd like for you to relax. Now that you're calm, you can think rationally. You don't know anything about my in game performances. I'm a high master on EU servers, so nothing to brag about. Then again, I don't "put my life" into this game (yet hopefully :D). Also, I don't go on forums and shit talk people. I gave my honest opinion about YOU because you bm'd a user in this thread and told him to listen more (indicating that he should listen to progamers, in this case you). IMO you are not one to be telling people to listen to others, in fact very few should do that. He was expressing himself and you ought to respect that. Also, I'd gladly 1v1 you any day and claim that "match that people care about". PM me for my user info if interested :-).
Hey, you posted to me before I ever replied to him. SO NO you weren't bm'ing me because I bm'd him. You are an idiot who either is lying on a forum where we have text to go off of OR you are a time traveler who KNEW I would respond to him so you pre posted in response to my post in the future??? But that is all an explanation I don't owe you. I don't have to know anything about your in game performance to know all I need to know about you. You realize the fact I don't know ANYTHING about you IS my point? I am on two shows where we discuss SC2. I literally do SC2 12~14 hours a day where all I do is consume content / play. You then attack my performance after attacking my team saying I shouldn't have a word or something. I am giving you far more attention than you deserve but seriously.. after having your actions laid out for you is it at all ambiguous how wrong you are?
04:35 is when you replied to him;
04:38 is when I replied to your reply (to him)
Nice story about time travelling though .
And about your performance; I do realize how much hard work you have to put into SC2 in order to maintain a pro level, but seeing as you've obviously not put enough effort into it (if effort = results), I don't think its fair for you to tell people when to speak and when to listen. Nor would it be fair for any other pro player. I understand that you're a long time member and that his was your home before we 13 year olds invaded, but the world, aswell as Team Liquid changes. The sooner you adapt the sooner you'll be OK about it.
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On September 24 2011 04:48 JiYan wrote:
yea i think the top 20 / top 100 thing is just because theyre EU based maybe?
I could see this as a reason to restrict to only top 20 NA ladder. They are a euro team and are probably looking for a primarily euro based team, but are willing to negotiate with higher caliber NA players, or maybe they do have a bias against NA ladder. Who knows. Either way, I hope they form a solid team of players that can win multiple CraftCup EU titles.
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On September 24 2011 04:29 Sina92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. He's from EG, obviously he prefers poaching players in an ill mannered fashion. I like the way Na'Vi are approaching the scene, creds & props to them. Good luck to them aswell.
Hey look it's the post I am speaking about.. the one where you are a dick before I ever reply to him.
It was really hard to find.
Did you really just say effort = results
FUck I once again wasted time responding to a troll 
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On September 24 2011 04:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really surprising that they would try to compare the EU ladder to the Korean ladder when every European who has gone to Korea to practice has said that the Korean ladder is much harder. Jinro, HuK, Sase have all said this, to name a few.
Na'Vi sounds like a joke of an organization if they can't even get their facts straight.
Where did they say EU ladder = Korea ladder?
All that statement meant is that they want to recruit a player who is in top 100 KR ladder and top 100 EU ladder.If they end up recruting someone ranked 50 KR and 50 EU , doesn't mean NAVI thinks they are equally skilled.
Don't assume.
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On September 24 2011 05:04 ondik wrote:I don't know why you edited it, but i will reply anyway. No, he's not right. There's NO recruting via ladder, it's just one of things you need if you want to apply. It's not like "if you're top10 we take you asap, if you're top50 you have a chance, if you're top100 it will be hard". It's just minimum boundary. Do you think they would take Deezer if he was the highest ranked player from all that applied? Of course not. This would NEVER EVER be an issue if they didn't mention top20 NA/top100 EU which brought bunch of butthurt NA players (just go through the topic and see who got mad about it). btw, anyone else finds it very funny and ironic that after incontrol's EU jokes on sotg he comes here defending the pride of NA server?
o.O If you look at most of the people's reasons, they're not just confused because Na'Vi isn't accepting more NA people.
It's because the ladder criterion exists in the first place, which is silly. It's also quite odd that they're supposedly looking for the most qualified candidates, yet they're accepting the same number of applicants from Europe as they are from Korea. They're being inconsistent over the different servers.
We know that NA < EU. Stop pretending you know how everyone else is feeling when our posts aren't showing it. Thanks.
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On September 24 2011 02:40 Ophi13 wrote:
Na'Vi already has successful teams at CS and DotA(2).
Im going to come of as a total elitist asshole but; Welcome to the real competition, and good luck - You will need it in the world of Starcraft.
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Considering Na'Vi is one of the few Dota teams that can compete against the dominant Chinese teams, maybe they can give the Korean SC2 teams a run for their money.
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On September 24 2011 05:09 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 04:29 Sina92 wrote:On September 24 2011 04:16 hifriend wrote:On September 24 2011 04:05 iNcontroL wrote:
you guys need to cool it with the ladder shit.
NA isn't as good yep. But you guys trying to attribute extremely random numbers like "top 100 EU is the same as bottom 500 NA" or w/e is dumb. Most of us play / smurf on EU and place actually right around the same level with what we try and do on the ladder.
Recruiting via ladder rank for a team of Na'vi's prestige is insanely dumb. They should be approaching players of interest and asking them if they are interested in discussions post contracts being up / buy out options. Mr eg, could it possibly be that they want to build a good team from scratch with unscouted talents rather than just trying to poach players that reached excellence by training with a different team? Cause the second option is proving to be somewhat unsustainable when the amazing acquired stars start to falter under their new inferior practice environment. He's from EG, obviously he prefers poaching players in an ill mannered fashion. I like the way Na'Vi are approaching the scene, creds & props to them. Good luck to them aswell. Hey look it's the post I am speaking about.. the one where you are a dick before I ever reply to him. It was really hard to find. Did you really just say effort = results FUck I once again wasted time responding to a troll
That post did not reply to you now, did it?
And I'm sorry, ofcourse 0-10 is "bad luck" and not lack of practice (effort).
It was nice chatting to you Geoff. I enjoyed the EG house tour video alot btw.
If you're ever interested in that 1v1 pm me.
Good luck to Na'Vi, I'm sure you'll get a strong roster soon enough!
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