• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:53
CEST 20:53
KST 03:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202560RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
The StarCraft 2 GOAT - An in-depth analysis The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 What tournaments are world championships? RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
[Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Dewalt's Show Matches in China Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1012 users

Stephanos Ladderrun - Page 60

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 64 Next
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
December 09 2011 19:51 GMT
#1181
On December 10 2011 04:49 soupchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:46 WaSa wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:38 soulist wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:35 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:34 Ryps wrote:
Im really surprised this thread wasnt closed yet. Stephano must be the most hated pro zerg, half the comments are about ladder not mattering, being overrated.

Why do so many people dont like Stephano ? If this was Idra it would be a whole different story.


I sayd it many times if Stephano was born in the USA he would be a god here on TL


That may be true but you have to understand that it is not just some random fags on TL that do not like Stephano, some of the pro players (idra+tyler) have said (on SOTG) that his style is very weird and when it gets figured out he wont be nearly as good. Artosis said the same thing and if everyone knows anything about Artosis, as soon as he sees a glimpse of skill in a player he talks about them like there is no tomorrow.


Please point out the "weird" part of the "style" is. The only "stylistic" matchup is his ZvT. He plays 100% standard in all other matchups. I don't even know (but recognize) this "stephano style" and what's all about. He used to play standard muta-bling even in ZvT (with amazing baneling burrow micro). Then I stopped watching his stream and suddenly he started doing ultra/infestors and people think that's the only thing he can do -_-'

Really you guys are running out of excuses..


I agree, people who say he has a "style that will get figured out" haven't been watching him play. Stephano's style evolves constantly. However I have noticed that he is truly unique in one particular regard; he almost never makes banelings.


Because he use infestors allot in ZvT. So that's hardly unique. And shouldn't players evolve over the time? In what way is that a particular "style"?
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
December 09 2011 19:52 GMT
#1182
On December 10 2011 04:35 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:34 Ryps wrote:
Im really surprised this thread wasnt closed yet. Stephano must be the most hated pro zerg, half the comments are about ladder not mattering, being overrated.

Why do so many people dont like Stephano ? If this was Idra it would be a whole different story.


I sayd it many times if Stephano was born in the USA he would be a god here on TL

Isn't Idra hated more than Stephano? And why would it be different if he was American? Tons of well-liked players are from smaller countries than France.
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 19:54:56
December 09 2011 19:53 GMT
#1183
Yeah it's very fun to hear Idra talk about "figuring style" when his teammate PuMa destroys him and says in the interview he does always the same thing, this should close all talks about Idra pathetic opinion
YoloStar <3
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
December 09 2011 19:53 GMT
#1184
I am very much open to criticism of this hypothesis. I believe I heard some commentary about his lack of results at some recent events because his play is so stylistic and had been "figured" out by foreign pros. Do you think this might fairly characterize his success (abnormal) right now?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#1185
On December 10 2011 04:51 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:49 soupchicken wrote:
I agree, people who say he has a "style that will get figured out" haven't been watching him play. Stephano's style evolves constantly. However I have noticed that he is truly unique in one particular regard; he almost never makes banelings.


Because he use infestors allot in ZvT. So that's hardly unique. And shouldn't players evolve over the time? In what way is that a particular "style"?


Stop jumping on anyone who doesn't immediately bow down before his Excellency, the Prince of Zerg. The guy you quoted was AGREEING with you, for the most part.

He just said we don't see Banelings much from Stephano. Which we don't.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#1186
On December 10 2011 04:52 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:35 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:34 Ryps wrote:
Im really surprised this thread wasnt closed yet. Stephano must be the most hated pro zerg, half the comments are about ladder not mattering, being overrated.

Why do so many people dont like Stephano ? If this was Idra it would be a whole different story.


I sayd it many times if Stephano was born in the USA he would be a god here on TL

Isn't Idra hated more than Stephano? And why would it be different if he was American? Tons of well-liked players are from smaller countries than France.


Idra is quite well loved by the foreigner community. You are giving the haters too much credit.
MMA: The true King of Wings
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
December 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#1187
Stephano amazes me. Really hard not to watch his stream. Same with July.
Julyzerg ftw
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#1188
On December 10 2011 04:53 Sabu113 wrote:
I am very much open to criticism of this hypothesis. I believe I heard some commentary about his lack of results at some recent events because his play is so stylistic and had been "figured" out by foreign pros. Do you think this might fairly characterize his success (abnormal) right now?


lack of result he just won IPL 4 insomia UK qualifier with players like Sase, Thorzain, Ryung, Tails. 3 days before Dreamhack. yea he did poorly in Dreamhack but so did alot of other favorites. I wont say Stephano lack results l8tly:D
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
December 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#1189
Obviously ladder doesn't mean that much... isn't Maka top of the ladder? And he isn't even in Code A anymore.
However Stephano has already proven at tournaments that he is very good, so I don't even know what you guys are arguing about.
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
December 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#1190
On December 10 2011 04:47 zerker2strong wrote:
stephano is the best...
there wil always be haters who cares



Finally someone got it
With great power comes great responsibility.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 09 2011 19:57 GMT
#1191
On December 10 2011 04:56 brentsen wrote:
Obviously ladder doesn't mean that much... isn't Maka top of the ladder? And he isn't even in Code A anymore.
However Stephano has already proven at tournaments that he is very good, so I don't even know what you guys are arguing about.

I somehow doubt both accounts at the top are played by Maka alone, but I could be wrong.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
December 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#1192
On December 10 2011 04:57 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:56 brentsen wrote:
Obviously ladder doesn't mean that much... isn't Maka top of the ladder? And he isn't even in Code A anymore.
However Stephano has already proven at tournaments that he is very good, so I don't even know what you guys are arguing about.

I somehow doubt both accounts at the top are played by Maka alone, but I could be wrong.



i heard once it was mkp and byun smurf
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#1193
On December 10 2011 04:56 brentsen wrote:
Obviously ladder doesn't mean that much... isn't Maka top of the ladder? And he isn't even in Code A anymore.


To be fair, it can be really hard to break through into Code A. The preliminaries are REALLY tough. Remember when DRG and MMA were stuck in Code B? Even MC was afraid of going through the prelims after he got knocked out of Code A, IIRC. In BW, there were tons of people known as "ladder bonjwas", who did really well on ladder and were really good players but somehow never managed to get through into Starleagues (similar to Bisu's Proleague gosu complex and Starleague failure in recent years).

For the most part, I agree with you. Just wanted to point out that being in Code B does not make a player poor, necessarily.
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
December 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#1194
On December 10 2011 04:54 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:51 WaSa wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:49 soupchicken wrote:
I agree, people who say he has a "style that will get figured out" haven't been watching him play. Stephano's style evolves constantly. However I have noticed that he is truly unique in one particular regard; he almost never makes banelings.


Because he use infestors allot in ZvT. So that's hardly unique. And shouldn't players evolve over the time? In what way is that a particular "style"?


Stop jumping on anyone who doesn't immediately bow down before his Excellency, the Prince of Zerg. The guy you quoted was AGREEING with you, for the most part.

He just said we don't see Banelings much from Stephano. Which we don't.


And I gave reason why not. I'm not "jumping on anyone". You however are jumping on me for no reason at all.
Rombur
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium107 Posts
December 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#1195
On December 10 2011 04:57 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:56 brentsen wrote:
Obviously ladder doesn't mean that much... isn't Maka top of the ladder? And he isn't even in Code A anymore.
However Stephano has already proven at tournaments that he is very good, so I don't even know what you guys are arguing about.

I somehow doubt both accounts at the top are played by Maka alone, but I could be wrong.

It is not Maka, it's Byun
Jinro, Rain, Sting, Byun, Alive, Bomber Fighting
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
December 09 2011 20:01 GMT
#1196
i love watching this guy stream, his playstyle is just so spot on

i don't really understand where idra is coming from when he says things like "stephano will be figured out" because his play is as safe and solid as it gets
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
December 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#1197
On December 10 2011 05:00 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:54 SeaSwift wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 WaSa wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:49 soupchicken wrote:
I agree, people who say he has a "style that will get figured out" haven't been watching him play. Stephano's style evolves constantly. However I have noticed that he is truly unique in one particular regard; he almost never makes banelings.


Because he use infestors allot in ZvT. So that's hardly unique. And shouldn't players evolve over the time? In what way is that a particular "style"?


Stop jumping on anyone who doesn't immediately bow down before his Excellency, the Prince of Zerg. The guy you quoted was AGREEING with you, for the most part.

He just said we don't see Banelings much from Stephano. Which we don't.


And I gave reason why not. I'm not "jumping on anyone". You however are jumping on me for no reason at all.


You are confusing me and everyone else reading your posts.
Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
December 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#1198
I love the rise of these new players to the top. I'd say the "new school" top of the races are clearly Stephano, ForGG and HerO. I also love how the top 3 GSL point leaders are 1 of each race; MVP, Nestea, MC.
KimJongIlJr
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (North)61 Posts
December 09 2011 20:03 GMT
#1199
I don't see him finishing higher than 5th or 6th at blizzard cup, but it should be a good experience for him. Sorry I just don't buy the hype, he's been carefully marketed imo. And I'm not saying he's bad ok?
This space for rent
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#1200
On December 10 2011 05:00 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:54 SeaSwift wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 WaSa wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:49 soupchicken wrote:
I agree, people who say he has a "style that will get figured out" haven't been watching him play. Stephano's style evolves constantly. However I have noticed that he is truly unique in one particular regard; he almost never makes banelings.


Because he use infestors allot in ZvT. So that's hardly unique. And shouldn't players evolve over the time? In what way is that a particular "style"?


Stop jumping on anyone who doesn't immediately bow down before his Excellency, the Prince of Zerg. The guy you quoted was AGREEING with you, for the most part.

He just said we don't see Banelings much from Stephano. Which we don't.


And I gave reason why not. I'm not "jumping on anyone". You however are jumping on me for no reason at all.


Maybe it's just my interpretation, but you seem to get really defensive. Not making banelings at all in ZvT and always going Infestors is, pretty much by definition, a style. Most players do make banelings in ZvT, and Infestors are not exactly a common replacement for banelings until the very lategame.

soupchicken wasn't saying Stephano was BAD for not making banelings, and yet you dismissed his opinion while saying "oh, coz Infestors" and "hardly unique". It's not so much whether you are right or wrong that annoys me, just your aggressiveness. Again, if it was just carried over the Internet badly and I misinterpreted your tone, sorry. But it seems like you're trying to start an argument.
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 64 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JimRising 640
Hui .378
JuggernautJason171
Rex 127
MindelVK 68
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 3118
Shuttle 2284
Mini 797
Larva 719
actioN 359
Soma 250
EffOrt 246
Rush 150
TY 97
JYJ94
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 68
Shine 56
sas.Sziky 33
Aegong 27
sorry 25
yabsab 17
Terrorterran 12
JulyZerg 7
Dota 2
capcasts11
Counter-Strike
fl0m3443
sgares389
oskar171
Stewie2K66
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu357
Other Games
gofns11897
tarik_tv3993
FrodaN2265
Grubby1473
Beastyqt850
KnowMe159
crisheroes111
Trikslyr65
ToD23
Sick1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings135
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 24
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV992
• masondota2841
League of Legends
• Nemesis3721
Other Games
• imaqtpie906
• Shiphtur376
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
15h 7m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
19h 7m
CSO Cup
21h 7m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
23h 7m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 14h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 19h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 23h
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.