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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On December 10 2011 06:12 Wicelo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 05:46 drgonzhere wrote:
Please explain to me how nestea is overrated considering he has been the best zerg in the world before, and during stephano's rise to popularity. In starcraft, one year of dominance is a long period of time fyi. Nestea was doing good during a certain period of time when a steady metagame wasn't established yet. Just like fruitdealer. I'm not saying he won't come back but for now he's out of code S and he got beat by naniwa in MLG which are pretty big defeats for a top player. By the way on sc1 nestea was named ZergBong and he wasn't performing very well. I'm giving nestea a last chance to perform well during blizzcup, if he fails I won't be following him anymore.
what you mean he's out of code S? if you have been following GSL, he's in code S for next season by beating asd
People lose sometimes, it just happens. Guess what? stephano recently couldn't get out of group play of DH winter (losing to naniwa, cloud, and sheth) and you are criticizing nestea for losing to a couple matches recently?
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On December 10 2011 06:41 Lasbike wrote:Since this topic is about Stephano's ladderrun, i'll just copypast what I wrote on his fanclub page : Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 01:58 Lasbike wrote:Here is 8th december run on the GM korean ladder, against : (Name/Rank/Map/Result/Mini BR) + Show Spoiler +GoldenfOu 110th GM ZvZ / Shattered Temple. Stephano lost, went roachs against infestors/ling. Got infestor dropped in the main. TreefOu 53rd GM ZvT / Shakuras. Stephano won with his muta-less/baneling-less style against a heavy ghost terran (ghost drop at 10:00 in the game) TreefOu 53rd GM ZvT / Tal Darim. Second time. Stephano won again. Heavy macro game, festors/ultras vs ghost/tanks/marines. GoldenfOu 110th GM ZvZ / Metalopolis. Second time. Stephano won. Golden went for maaaaass festors/lings (+drop), this time, stephano was prepared, and owned. SaturnPrime ZvZ / Shattered Temple. Stephano lost, macro game, very intense in the beggining. Both went roachs/hydras. Saturn had more. 아레스 104th GM ZvP / Metalopolis. Stephano won, he destroyed the protoss. 재경시정철민범범 36th GM ZvZ / Antiga. Stephano lostGoldenfOu 110th GM ZvZ / Antiga. Third time today ! Stephano won. Lings/festors/ultras against mass roachs from golden. Sick ultra timing. HoonMvP 22nd GM ZvT / Metalopolis. Stephano won. AWESOME Game. The terran had half of metalopolis, PF everywhere, sieged tanks & ghosts everywhere. And stephano..destroyed everything. 재경시정철민범범 36th GM ZvZ / Antiga. Stephano lost. oGsMC 26th ZvZ / Metalopolis. Yep, MC miss-clicked RANDOM hahaha xD Stephano won obviously :D 아이유 ZvP / Metalopolis. Stephano lost. Seems like it was Sage. 아레스 104th GM ZvP / Metalopolis. Stephano won ez pz. 아레스 104th GM ZvP / Metalopolis. Exact same match up, different positions though :p Stephano won. He seriously destroyed this guy. At the end of the day : Stephano's rank : http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3282599/DreAm 57th. GM korea : http://www.sc2ranks.com/div/195936/grandmaster#rank:1 I think Stephano is really improving here, and that's a good thing. He makes less mistake, he gained about 100 APM, etc.. I don't think he's going to get far in the Blizzard Cup though, since he is going to face literally the best players in the world.
thanks for this
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On December 10 2011 06:53 illsick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 06:12 Wicelo wrote:On December 10 2011 05:46 drgonzhere wrote:
Please explain to me how nestea is overrated considering he has been the best zerg in the world before, and during stephano's rise to popularity. In starcraft, one year of dominance is a long period of time fyi. Nestea was doing good during a certain period of time when a steady metagame wasn't established yet. Just like fruitdealer. I'm not saying he won't come back but for now he's out of code S and he got beat by naniwa in MLG which are pretty big defeats for a top player. By the way on sc1 nestea was named ZergBong and he wasn't performing very well. I'm giving nestea a last chance to perform well during blizzcup, if he fails I won't be following him anymore. what you mean he's out of code S? if you have been following GSL, he's in code S for next season by beating asd People lose sometimes, it just happens. Guess what? stephano recently couldn't get out of group play of DH winter (losing to naniwa, cloud, and sheth) and you are criticizing nestea for losing to a couple matches recently?
Well, yeah. Everyone knows Nestea is in a slump, dude! He lost 3 series in a row! I'm surprised he's still in GSL and he hasn't done a Rain and moved to North America. He certainly won't find any more success in Korea, that's for sure.
/satire
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"Stephano in ladder games on KR server ! Watch me get crushed ( or not ! )"
Ell-oh-ell.
Also, thanks for the summaries Lasbike. I'll definetely check up on the VoDs.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
On December 10 2011 04:10 Dawg_Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:00 MCDayC wrote:
Do you have any evidence of this? Sorry to sound rude, but thats a big deal if so. Here you go, biggest sc2 forum in Korea
I can't see this image, can I get a general gist of it from anyone?
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On December 10 2011 07:14 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:10 Dawg_Snow wrote:On December 10 2011 04:00 MCDayC wrote:
Do you have any evidence of this? Sorry to sound rude, but thats a big deal if so. On December 08 2011 09:30 Hazuc wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ec4Ru.jpg) Here you go, biggest sc2 forum in Korea I can't see this image, can I get a general gist of it from anyone?
A forum thread list with a lot of thread names about Stephano.
13 out of 24 to be exact, sticky excluded. Time stamps span less than 3 hours over the 24 threads.
Edit: not sure why the thread names are English though, if its a Korean forum. Seems weird. Biggest sc2 forum in Korea surely must be in Korean? If it's the biggest ENGLISH sc2 forum in Korea, then it is maybe not so strange that they mention Stephano a lot. 
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pretty sure he used google translate...
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On December 10 2011 07:21 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:14 MCDayC wrote:On December 10 2011 04:10 Dawg_Snow wrote:On December 10 2011 04:00 MCDayC wrote:
Do you have any evidence of this? Sorry to sound rude, but thats a big deal if so. On December 08 2011 09:30 Hazuc wrote: Here you go, biggest sc2 forum in Korea I can't see this image, can I get a general gist of it from anyone? A forum thread list with a lot of thread names about Stephano. 13 out of 24 to be exact, sticky excluded. Time stamps span less than 3 hours over the 24 threads. Edit: not sure why the thread names are English though, if its a Korean forum. Seems weird. Biggest sc2 forum in Korea surely must be in Korean? If it's the biggest ENGLISH sc2 forum in Korea, then it is maybe not so strange that they mention Stephano a lot.
I think its auto translator I know if i visit korean or chinese sites my browser goes all mental and translate some of it in english its quite strange
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It is in korean, the page was translated through google translate thats why it s stefano and not stephano ( the korean signs for his name are translated phonetically to stefano )
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France12797 Posts
Thanks lasbike, but could you explain the apm thingy? How can someone gain 100 apm in three days?
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On December 10 2011 06:53 illsick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 06:12 Wicelo wrote:On December 10 2011 05:46 drgonzhere wrote:
Please explain to me how nestea is overrated considering he has been the best zerg in the world before, and during stephano's rise to popularity. In starcraft, one year of dominance is a long period of time fyi. Nestea was doing good during a certain period of time when a steady metagame wasn't established yet. Just like fruitdealer. I'm not saying he won't come back but for now he's out of code S and he got beat by naniwa in MLG which are pretty big defeats for a top player. By the way on sc1 nestea was named ZergBong and he wasn't performing very well. I'm giving nestea a last chance to perform well during blizzcup, if he fails I won't be following him anymore. what you mean he's out of code S? if you have been following GSL, he's in code S for next season by beating asd People lose sometimes, it just happens. Guess what? stephano recently couldn't get out of group play of DH winter (losing to naniwa, cloud, and sheth) and you are criticizing nestea for losing to a couple matches recently?
He lost to Naniwa and Sheth... he played poorly that day (in comparison with his usual play).
However, against cloud he just threw the game away (unless he consider a 8pool as a viable strategy against terran).
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On December 10 2011 07:40 Poopi wrote:
Thanks lasbike, but could you explain the apm thingy? How can someone gain 100 apm in three days?
Doubtfull he gained 100 apm, it would mean he has an average of 250~300 blizzard apm, and peaks over 500... That would be far above everyone else.
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On December 10 2011 04:16 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:12 Kahlgar wrote:
As for the people still doubting Stephano :
In 3 months, :
He won 1 major tournament (IPL3).
He won 2 fairly big tournaments (ESWC & IPL4 qualifier).
He crushed top europeans players in online cups (Millenium cup).
He had a sick winrate and the #1 spot in the euro ladder.
He is currently doing amazingly well on the korean ladder after 5 days of practice.
He won more prize money than any other foreigners.
Not sure how you can objectively not consider him at least top 3 foreigner with those achievements. Bonjwa of the foreigners perhaps?
Don't be stupid with the use of this word. Show some respect.
It is comments like this that drives lot TLers willing to debate into devil-advocating haters.
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On December 10 2011 07:53 Elean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:40 Poopi wrote:
Thanks lasbike, but could you explain the apm thingy? How can someone gain 100 apm in three days? Doubtfull he gained 100 apm, it would mean he has an average of 250~300 blizzard apm, and peaks over 500... That would be far above everyone else.
well that would be if he gained 100eAP/Not quite 1 minute. You would have to ask him tbh  . It for sure looks like he's playing at a much faster pace
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On December 10 2011 07:57 SabreUK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:53 Elean wrote:On December 10 2011 07:40 Poopi wrote:
Thanks lasbike, but could you explain the apm thingy? How can someone gain 100 apm in three days? Doubtfull he gained 100 apm, it would mean he has an average of 250~300 blizzard apm, and peaks over 500... That would be far above everyone else. well that would be if he gained 100eAP/Not quite 1 minute. You would have to ask him tbh . It for sure looks like he's playing at a much faster pace
Well obviously he's talking real APM as suddenly gaining 100 eAPM or even 100 blizzard APM just like that would be pretty ridiculous LOL depending on where all that APM went to he have probably turned up his blizz apm anywhere between 5 and 40. Blizzard APM should never be looked at as it completely removes so much APM that's 100% legit at the same time as removing spam. I can actually see so much of actual micro APM and not spam just gone because blizzard apm is terrible
so yeah, he's probably talking real apm
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I don't get why people can't be honest.Why can't they say something about stephano along these lines:
Stephano is a very, very good player. He is certainly among the top 5 foreigners, probably even the best. Without a question he is the most solid and highest achieving foreign zerg player. I also really hate him. He looks gay, he acts gay, everything he says and does sounds gay to me. For example not saying gg but something along the lines of congrats or the pink power ranger shit is the gayest crap I've ever heard in sc2. Not in the gay way of having sex with the same sex but in the way of acting like a faggot. In my opinion stephano is a huge faggot and I was happy when this millenium/complexity shit happened. I hope he doesn't win a single tournament. I would rather see CombatEX winning code s three times in a row with cannon rushes/voidray all-ins and proxy gates than stephano being on top 3 of a mlg for example.
I really don't like him and I wish him all the worst for his carrier and I'm very glad a lot of other people hate on him too because that tells me there is something utterly gay about him.
That would be a personal opinion and not a try to take anything away from him in order to talk down the solidity of his zerg play. Being an asshole takes nothing away of being a brilliant player.....Nobody can honestly deny that he is a astoundingly good player without making himself look stupid. Talking about how he is a faggot is something totally different.
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This was hilarious Simonius :p
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On December 10 2011 08:25 lindn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:57 SabreUK wrote:On December 10 2011 07:53 Elean wrote:On December 10 2011 07:40 Poopi wrote:
Thanks lasbike, but could you explain the apm thingy? How can someone gain 100 apm in three days? Doubtfull he gained 100 apm, it would mean he has an average of 250~300 blizzard apm, and peaks over 500... That would be far above everyone else. well that would be if he gained 100eAP/Not quite 1 minute. You would have to ask him tbh . It for sure looks like he's playing at a much faster pace Well obviously he's talking real APM as suddenly gaining 100 eAPM or even 100 blizzard APM just like that would be pretty ridiculous LOL depending on where all that APM went to he have probably turned up his blizz apm anywhere between 5 and 40. Blizzard APM should never be looked at as it completely removes so much APM that's 100% legit at the same time as removing spam. I can actually see so much of actual micro APM and not spam just gone because blizzard apm is terrible so yeah, he's probably talking real apm
Stephano won around 100 apm in 3 days,that's for real.We watched replays (against Maka for example).Before Korea he had like 250'ish APM "regular" in Sc2Gears.Now he's above 375.And i agree,Blizzard APM is terrible,don't trust that thing :D!Just come on Stephano's Stream,we are waiting for you guys !
After Blizzard Cup,we gonna release a ReplayPack of these games and we'll try to improve this stream by ...a lot :D.Webcam to see oGs house,and of course Stephano :p...Hope you'll enjoy it.
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