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On December 10 2011 04:10 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:01 Ventor wrote:On December 10 2011 03:58 HappyChris wrote:On December 10 2011 03:42 FallDownMarigold wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:
its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does
Err... Just stop it. He's a pretty good foreign player, that's all there is to it. 'Nuff said. He's not the best, not the worst -- he's just pretty good and we'll leave it at that. I'm not sure how so many people are rationalizing so many big claims based off ladder performance over a short time frame. LOL Not the best lol you kidding me. No foreigner has got so many huge major lan tournament wins in the last 2 months. No foriegner has done what Stephano is doijng to the korean GM league. Just to compare idra is like 50 wins 45 loses in masters. Stephano 85 32 after 6 days in korea. 73% win ratio there is only one other zerg in the entire world that got +70 win ratio on the korean GM league and thats dRG and then there is Stephano. Hole of Korea are talking about him. Every korrean pro wanna practise with him. Stephano is just not the best foreigner by a mile but one of the world best zergs and thats a fact!! I'm sorry but HuK is the most achieved foreigner player. Not stephano. Stephano is good but if he can prove himself in Korea, he can be listed as one of the best. If not, then no. one of... them? its just huk, no1 else, who is more accomplished if you take pure results. your pre-speaker obviously goes too far again... he is not "the best foreigner by miles", he is one of the best 5 at least though.
Pre-Speakers??! Ok, nvm. Just tell us how many more tournaments he has to win until we are allowed to say that "he is the best foreigner by miles" ? Btw, do you remember all those tournaments huk went out in the first few rounds? Stephano is just by far more consistent. Losing to Boxer in an MLG after winnin like 20 games in a row doesnt change anything bout that.
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On December 10 2011 03:54 Timerly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:44 Cyro wrote:On December 10 2011 03:28 trucane wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. Every foreigner who has went to korea has managed to grab top 25 GM after less than a week? And that with 70%+ win rate and only playing 4 hours a day? Thats news to me He went to korea to train and plays 4 hours a day? According to Stephano he can't play much more in a single day, it exhausts him. I'd say he might actually be right, nobody can hold 100% for much more than that, training with 80% over 12h might have less of an effect in tournaments if you consider the fact that apart from open brackets no tournament makes you play more than a few series a day. He might be a proof of concept 
I'm pretty sure that his manager said something like : "he plays around 8 hours a day". Maybe this 3-4 hours sentance was misunderstood, he probably meant 3-4h max by session. That means that he can play that much time, then take some rest and play again.
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On December 10 2011 04:12 Kahlgar wrote:
As for the people still doubting Stephano :
In 3 months, :
He won 1 major tournament (IPL3).
He won 2 fairly big tournaments (ESWC & IPL4 qualifier).
He crushed top europeans players in online cups (Millenium cup).
He had a sick winrate and the #1 spot in the euro ladder.
He is currently doing amazingly well on the korean ladder after 5 days of practice.
He won more prize money than any other foreigners.
Not sure how you can objectively not consider him at least top 3 foreigner with those achievements.
Bonjwa of the foreigners perhaps?
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On December 10 2011 04:15 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:54 Timerly wrote:On December 10 2011 03:44 Cyro wrote:On December 10 2011 03:28 trucane wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. Every foreigner who has went to korea has managed to grab top 25 GM after less than a week? And that with 70%+ win rate and only playing 4 hours a day? Thats news to me He went to korea to train and plays 4 hours a day? According to Stephano he can't play much more in a single day, it exhausts him. I'd say he might actually be right, nobody can hold 100% for much more than that, training with 80% over 12h might have less of an effect in tournaments if you consider the fact that apart from open brackets no tournament makes you play more than a few series a day. He might be a proof of concept I'm pretty sure that his manager said something like : "he plays around 8 hours a day". Maybe this 3-4 hours sentance was misunderstood, he probably meant 3-4h max by session. That means that he can play that much time, then take some rest and play again.
Well, I'd find it odd if the only thing he did at the oGs house was play ladder games on the korean server. That's what people see him do, but it might not be the only thing he does.
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I think it is just natural to train more in Korea when you have the chance to train there?
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On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times...
yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far...
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So Stephano went to Korea? Does he have code-A spot?
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Poor Stephano being spy by Hero and Mc in the oGs house 
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On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far...
By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted?
His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level.
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On December 10 2011 04:19 Steamroller wrote:
So Stephano went to Korea? Does he have code-A spot?
He did. But refused it.
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On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level.
Sase only owned top 20 GM for reaching this 14th place sure -_-
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On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level.
Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM.
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On December 10 2011 04:23 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level. Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM.
If his playing high GM's now and then he started in masters, then doesn't that mean he was playing people lower then his skill level? Seems pretty logical to me.
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On December 10 2011 04:24 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:23 Crushinator wrote:On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:
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Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level. Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM. If his playing high GM's now and then he started in masters, then doesn't that mean he was playing people lower then his skill level? Seems pretty logical to me.
That might be because you are retarded.
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On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level.
His win rate has gone down by about 2% in the last 3 days, and that is mainly due to Jjakji 3-0ing him. People are posting all his results in this thread and he is winning way more than he loses vs. top Korean players. Sase had a 57% win rate and from the looks of it, Stephano won't even drop to 67%.
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He's so good. I'm surprised he even loses.
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On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level.
Actually he loaned a mid masters account and first day allrdy played low GM players. 2nd day only GM and l8r got promoted to GM that evening. And his win ratio is actually gettting higher today he had huge winning streak around 75%. I know its hard for others to belive but yea atm Stephanos win ratio is going up while playing against the very best Korea has to offer.
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On December 10 2011 04:24 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:23 Crushinator wrote:On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:
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Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level. Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM. If his playing high GM's now and then he started in masters, then doesn't that mean he was playing people lower then his skill level? Seems pretty logical to me.
He went 17-7 in his last 24 games, 70.83% win rate.
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On December 10 2011 04:25 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:24 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:23 Crushinator wrote:On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:
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You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level. Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM. If his playing high GM's now and then he started in masters, then doesn't that mean he was playing people lower then his skill level? Seems pretty logical to me. That might be because you are retarded.
I don't get why you're being so aggressive. I never said Stephano was bad, I actually said he is good, just that he was playing people that weren't comparable to him in terms of skill level. Put players like MVP and NesTea in Stephano's position, and watch their ratio sky-rocket and then start to even out when they're playing the top GM's.
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On December 10 2011 04:24 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 04:23 Crushinator wrote:On December 10 2011 04:20 MonkSEA wrote:On December 10 2011 04:18 JohnMatrix wrote:On December 10 2011 04:11 Poopi wrote:On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote:On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote:
Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote:On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:
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Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with? People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. SaSe got top 16 a couple times... yeah sase was 14th GM at a moment. but stephano ratio is the highest from any foreigners yet reaching a top 20 so far... By ratio, you mean when he owned people in lower leagues before he was promoted? His ratio will even up now that his playing people at his skill level. Why the fuck do you even post if you dont know what you are talking about? His account was in masters when he got it and he started at high masters low GM MMR. His win rate has been the same now that he is high GM. If his playing high GM's now and then he started in masters, then doesn't that mean he was playing people lower then his skill level? Seems pretty logical to me.
If you win ~5-10 straight, depending on the MMR of your opponents, as a low masters player, you will be playing high masters/grandmaster players. So maybe take 5 games out of the equation at most??
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