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Dawg_Snow
France425 Posts
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:21 Maenander wrote: Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing. why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. | ||
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Wawarox
161 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote: why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. no. | ||
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Sawofhackness
Afghanistan183 Posts
Its just hype vs actual wins really When a player wins a big tourney or sits right at the top of a ladder or starts doing extremely well they get toted as the next big thing.. Its part of the reason why we love SC2. When this stops happening it means the game is receding, going stale. Next big things are the... next big thing! | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote: why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. Every foreigner who has went to korea has managed to grab top 25 GM after less than a week? And that with 70%+ win rate and only playing 4 hours a day? Thats news to me | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:19 KalWarkov wrote: People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume? You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:24 striderxxx wrote: why is this considered amazing?? every pro has done that on the KR ladder at one point. who exactly? no foreigner EVER got that high to my knowledge. no huk, no sase, no naniwa, no idra. not nearly as high. and he plays for 5 days. its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote: You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? Who did i insult? Im not insulting IdrA at all, but his fans often seem to see things kind of 1 sided. + you insult stephano in this thread all the time. | ||
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Simonius
Germany98 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote: Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. How is he playing abusively vs toss? He doesn't use ling infestor ultra with mass upgrades but roach infestor fast broodlord most of the time supported by heavy macro play. See nothing gimmicky about his zvp. His zvt on the other hand is quite abusive and he got some punishment from top korean terrans for it vs jakjil for example. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:10 SafeAsCheese wrote: No, because sage didn't see his own lead Zerg is the fastest comeback race if you let them do it Plus when Sage took his third, Stephano retook the Gold and another base which is obviously terrible for the toss. But anyways, I feel like these two have been playing each other so much that they're practically playing like teammates would sometimes with all this funky stuff and occasional personal metagaming. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Here at TL we like to post with some character and factual information as backup. "No" doesn't really cut it. | ||
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x6.Chouji
United States84 Posts
Noone can argue he is a great player but ladder is really just..ladder. He can prove himself @ the blizzard cup since he apparently doesn't believe he can win GSL. And enough with 4 hours a day bullshit, he's been streaming for more than 4 hours already. Please. Shut up. Haters & Lovers. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:29 SafeAsCheese wrote: You know you can actually make arguments without insulting other players, right? He never insulted anyone ... just if you say "assume" means "are" and "fanboy" means something insulting. Posts like yours are just irrelevant and senseless. Haters gonna hate. Stephano has a lot of potential. SaSe was considered very good too but yet didn't show the biggest results(watchin him on IPL right now ... he IS good), at least Stephano showed us what he is capable of. The first time Nani crushed MLG a lot of ppl said simliar things as the Stephano"haters". I will sit back, drink a cup of tea and will spit it all out when Stephano wins Code S  On December 10 2011 03:32 Shiori wrote: I don't like Idra, no. I think he's overrated and childish. You don't have to be gimmicky to abuse particularly difficult things in the metagame right now. BL/infestor play is considered by most Protoss players to be virtually uncounterable outside of the mothership. This says a lot about the strength of the strategy. Nothing against Stephano for using it; I just don't think it's very original or a terribly good representation of stunning mechanics. What? First of all: virtually uncounterable? SO many games were won by toss vs that army mix. Not saying that the same amount was won by Z with that unit comp but really ... and "just" the mothership? We are talking about lategame unit mix...but i dont want to drift into strategy talk. Sencond: I guess most Zergs use that build, so ... where is your argument? Zergs arent a good representation of stunning mechanics? And imo Stephano was one of the first with heavy ling styles who actually killed big names. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Some people really do stick out like sore thumbs. Really enjoying watching Steph and FOrGG play at the same time with my split screen :D | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:32 Shiori wrote: I don't like Idra, no. I think he's overrated and childish. You don't have to be gimmicky to abuse particularly difficult things in the metagame right now. BL/infestor play is considered by most Protoss players to be virtually uncounterable outside of the mothership. This says a lot about the strength of the strategy. Nothing against Stephano for using it; I just don't think it's very original or a terribly good representation of stunning mechanics. Well, i agree with this part I just don't think it's very original or a terribly good representation of stunning mechanics. but it doesnt mean he has bad mechanics. + he uses BL/infestor less then many others, he is more the ultra guy. What do you want zergs to do? play roach/hydra and lose? ur comment doesnt make too much sense tbh -,- | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:32 x6.Chouji wrote: The statements he made after IPL made me an anti-fan. "Herpderp I only practice a lil and I beat everyone so...I'm da best?" Noone can argue he is a great player but ladder is really just..ladder. He can prove himself @ the blizzard cup since he apparently doesn't believe he can win GSL. And enough with 4 hours a day bullshit, he's been streaming for more than 4 hours already. Please. Shut up. Haters & Lovers. ._. Is your humor detector broken? Some people. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:30 KalWarkov wrote: its just 1 of tons of proove how good he is, but haters fight reasons to denie anything good he does Err... Just stop it. He's a pretty good foreign player, that's all there is to it. 'Nuff said. He's not the best, not the worst -- he's just pretty good and we'll leave it at that. I'm not sure how so many people are rationalizing so many big claims based off ladder performance over a short time frame. LOL | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:28 trucane wrote: Every foreigner who has went to korea has managed to grab top 25 GM after less than a week? And that with 70%+ win rate and only playing 4 hours a day? Thats news to me He went to korea to train and plays 4 hours a day? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:42 FallDownMarigold wrote: Err... Just stop it. He's a pretty good foreign player, that's all there is to it. 'Nuff said. He's not the best, not the worst -- he's just pretty good and we'll leave it at that. I'm not sure how so many people are rationalizing so many big claims based off ladder performance over a short time frame. LOL Well, that's just opinion. And I believe he is the best. Who do you rank in that position? | ||
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