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On December 10 2011 01:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 01:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 01:53 iamke55 wrote:On December 10 2011 01:50 -Archangel- wrote:On December 10 2011 01:48 Silidons wrote:On December 10 2011 01:46 arQ wrote:
Wow. He just crushed ForGG :-) who went full mech....sigh people these days Actually he tried his build that he uses on all Zergs on ladder but Stephano defended perfectly and crushed him. I heard he beat Idra 5 times with that build. Must be pretty strong. It was not that build, it was a thor timing after an effective hellion harass. ForGG that game did the "imaekthor" build and lost his whole army to mass lings (after letting all his hellions get fungaled btw) The game was over when his harass did no damage, because Stephano can metagame him every time because he does the same hellion shit every game. When his harass did no damage? I was watching both streams and he did a ton of damage, and he was ahead by like 30 supply (with a mech army) for a long time before stephano got ultras. If he decided to attack sooner rather than keep harassing stephano would have lost.
Ahead in supply is standard in mech build mass thor, considering each thor cost 6 supplies and the opponent doesn't go mass roaches.
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Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win.
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He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right 
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omg that game vs sage unreal
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On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right
Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished
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On December 10 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished
So, Stephano is winning because Sage is bad? ^^
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On December 10 2011 03:09 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished So, Stephano is winning because Sage is bad? ^^
No, because sage didn't see his own lead
Zerg is the fastest comeback race if you let them do it
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On December 10 2011 03:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:09 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished So, Stephano is winning because Sage is bad? ^^ No, because sage didn't see his own lead Zerg is the fastest comeback race if you let them do it
Yea Stephano shoulnt have won that game and Stephano was just playing around drone rush to take out a cannon lol. and then go gold after. I got no idea how Stephano won that game
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On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win.
Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing.
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Doubters be doubters man.. 
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On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing.
Yes it's hard for toss to deal with better players.
Lol seriously some people :s
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On December 10 2011 03:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:09 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished So, Stephano is winning because Sage is bad? ^^ No, because sage didn't see his own lead Zerg is the fastest comeback race if you let them do it
I agree. But you have do give credit to stephano, who made it unattractive to attack because of the spines and great defensive play. I thought he would be dead by the first push, but he had enough that sage was afraid to lose his whole army by going "all-in". Maybe stephano is getting under sages skin!
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On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing.
That's what progamers do.
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On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing.
You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with?
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On December 10 2011 03:11 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:09 m0ck wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 10 2011 03:08 Myia wrote:He just bashed sage as well... must be doing something right Sage had him dead after killing the gold base, but never pushed again until 4 base brood lord were finished So, Stephano is winning because Sage is bad? ^^ No, because sage didn't see his own lead Zerg is the fastest comeback race if you let them do it Yea Stepahno shoulnt have won that game and Stephano was just playing around drone rush to take out a cannon lol. and then go gold after. I got no idea how Stephano won that game
Going gold base on metal in ZvP is actually overpowered and most tourneys either remove metal or remove the gold base because of it.
Even idra, who hates ZvP, has said that a uncontested Z gold base there is almost a free win.
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On December 10 2011 03:15 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 03:12 Shiori wrote:On December 10 2011 02:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Stephano is really good fundamentally, but I really wish he would take the time to practice some non ling infestor ultra builds. If people catch onto you it becomes much, much more difficult to win. Pretty much this. I really feel like, and I don't mean this insultingly, Stephano is an "abusive" Zerg player. I don't think he's winning because of his mechanics or innovative strategies. He found something that's really, really hard for players to deal with (Toss especially) and he keeps doing. You mean like an innovative strategy that is hard to deal with?
People that say Stephano has bad mechanics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. abusive zerg player. hahahahaha. IdrA fanboy i assume?
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Stephano reached the top25, rank 17 currently. Simply amazing.
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For me personally he is the biggest talent we have seen in the foreigner scene. But thats just an opinion and totally not objective. If you watch those games on his stream... its just amazing.
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you guys are funny srsly.
Stephano has that huge ladderrun
--> ladder doesnt mean shit
Stephano wins ipl qualifier over MMA
--> lolol online, he is bad offline
Stephano wins ipl
--> well, he had a lucky grid
Stephano loses to boxer @ mlg (after winning ipl)
--> see, stephano is bad!!!! his style is figured out obv!
Stephano wins ESWC vs MKP and ipl4 qualifier over tails and ryung
---> what? i didnt even see the tournament, there are tournaments in europe?
Stephano goes to korea, smashes the ladder going top 30 GM after 4 days with over 70% winrate, beating sage and forGG
--> lucky, abusive player.
When do you guys realize that hes just one of the best zergs on this planet -,-
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