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On September 21 2011 02:05 ptrpb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 02:03 Novalisk wrote:On September 21 2011 01:58 gullberg wrote:On September 21 2011 01:50 Novalisk wrote:On September 21 2011 01:44 HackBenjamin wrote:On September 21 2011 01:43 Novalisk wrote:
Maybe that means Dignitas will add someone a little more mature to their roster. I'm curious, what do you mean by this? Naniwa appeared to act in a mature fashion in all the interviews I've seen.. That depends on your point of view. For example, I for one don't like it when a player consistently talks down on the European scene from which he originates. But it's true? I'm pretty sure most progamers would agree that the korean ladder is the hardest ladder. There's a difference between saying "The korean ladder is the best ladder" and saying "I haven't learned anything from Europeans in a long time, because they suck". AFAIK, NaNiwa insulted the European scene during a HomeStoryCup 3 interview because he Koreans were dominating Europeans left and right during the period. NaNiwa said something along the lines of "There isn't anymore I can learn from the Europeans" and stated he had plans on going to Korea.
Since when was speaking his mind, and probably the truth, the same as insulting a scene. It's just how it is, deal with it.
But it will be interesting to see where he ends up.
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Wow, this is huge news. Really wish there was more detail, I'm really curious about this decision
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Even though liquid has picked up HerO, I think NaNi would be a great pickup for both parties. Other than that, coL or a good Korean team would be smartest and would make me happy. I hope he isn't recruited by fnatic or EG though, I don't much care for those teams and I don't see much he would gain from a partnership there other than the $$'s, which will fade in time if he doesn't continue to improve as a player.
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On September 21 2011 02:09 Murdock wrote:
Another drama...
Blizz will have to put some kind of player transfer tool on bnet 2.0, cos it's more popular than the actual game.
I don't really see any drama here, unless people want to turn this situation into some unnecessary side-story to the other pieces of drama we have going on right now.
His contract ended, he didn't want to renew it, Dignitas didn't want to renew it. The end.
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On September 21 2011 02:12 Sablar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 02:05 ptrpb wrote:On September 21 2011 02:03 Novalisk wrote:On September 21 2011 01:58 gullberg wrote:On September 21 2011 01:50 Novalisk wrote:On September 21 2011 01:44 HackBenjamin wrote:On September 21 2011 01:43 Novalisk wrote:
Maybe that means Dignitas will add someone a little more mature to their roster. I'm curious, what do you mean by this? Naniwa appeared to act in a mature fashion in all the interviews I've seen.. That depends on your point of view. For example, I for one don't like it when a player consistently talks down on the European scene from which he originates. But it's true? I'm pretty sure most progamers would agree that the korean ladder is the hardest ladder. There's a difference between saying "The korean ladder is the best ladder" and saying "I haven't learned anything from Europeans in a long time, because they suck". AFAIK, NaNiwa insulted the European scene during a HomeStoryCup 3 interview because he Koreans were dominating Europeans left and right during the period. NaNiwa said something along the lines of "There isn't anymore I can learn from the Europeans" and stated he had plans on going to Korea. Since when was speaking his mind, and probably the truth, the same as insulting a scene. It's just how it is, deal with it. But it will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Naniwa is far less BM nowadays than he was earlier and he doesn't insult players personally, unlike some other prominent SC players. I hope he finds a team that's goals meet his and keeps improving.
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OH did not see that coming.... Well good luck to both parties :D Lets hope naniwa joins a korean team :D
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Since Naniwa already said that he only want to improve as a player and not win easy money ( since he leave europe to go to korea for a long time ) i think he will probably join a korean team.
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I would like to see liquidnaniwa, he already knows where he is going but NO ONE KNOWS WHEREEEE 
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Wow this was super unexpected! :O
I'm excited to see where he ends up now.
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On September 21 2011 01:08 PlaGuE_R wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:06 FairForever wrote:On September 21 2011 01:02 PlaGuE_R wrote:On September 21 2011 00:59 FairForever wrote:On September 21 2011 00:56 PlaGuE_R wrote:On September 21 2011 00:54 GrungyMunchy wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 Gamegene wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'd say Liquid`Naniwa though I can see Nazgul not wanting to sign him. Other than that I think it would be the best deal for him. o.o Why wouldn't he want to sign him? For the most part, he's just really really really passionate about winning. Liquid usually is very strict in signing players regarding their personality and value to the community. Though Naniwa is undoubtely a great player, I don't know if he fits Liquid profile. troll?? have you ever heard Nani speak? ever? he has like the most awesome personality, watch SotG episode 41, hes hilarious, look at the DH Valencia picture, he has a great sense of humour; look at Thorzain and naniwa TL attacks. nani would be an AWESOME addition to TL. hey, hey, Nazgul...MOAR SWEDES PLZ :D lol Umm... Not showing up to TSL Finals party after losing to Thorzain Complaining about close map position at EU Blizzcon Qualifiers after losing to Ret (and going "hehe" when he scouts the close pos) And those are the recent ones when he was part of Dignitas (not even the ones long before). Just because he's hilarious (just like Idra) doesn't mean he's BM and a bad fit for TL. Also if they were gonna shell out the money for Nani they would've just found a way to keep HuK, I'm pretty sure Naniwa is going to command a salary at a comparable level. im not saying he's BM at all, close positions on shattered temple is ridiculous, not going to the party after getting 2nd place, maybe he was sad? disappointed? tired? hes not BM, and i honestly think hed take a regular salary for a chance to train in a good pro house in kore (OGS-TL) since he wants to be the best above all else. he is always mad at himself when he takes 2nd, THATS how dedicated he is to this game Uhh he was pretty BM before (do you have short memory?). He's an exceptional player but that doesn't mean he's a good fit for TL. people CHANGE, he was bm a long time ago when he was hitting a very rough patch in his life, he said in an interview that he was angry and depressed at life and took it out on his opponents and that he realized that that was the wrong thing to do and that he would behave properly now because of the chances he was given by both Empire and Dignitas User was warned for this post
Someone is feeling a wee bit moody I see.
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All signs point to ColMVP. There just isn't really another logical choice.
We can fangirl over him joining Liquid or EG as much as we want, its pretty clear to me he will be teamless or Col.
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I suppose that is a small justifiable reason if you use that as like a basketball player from EU who says "EU ballers suck, im going to practice in america." it would make sense for the EU team to not resign the player to kind of let him do his thing in america.
but in sc2, im inclined to think this is not the reason as that is incredibly petty reasoning for giving up possibly the best player on your roster. I have a feeling that due to his great performance, both the team and him recognize how much more naniwa is worth than when he was signed one year ago. Dignitas can't afford him (if you look at their roster it certainly makes sense) making it simply impossible for naniwa to stay perhaps without a significant salary cut. If this is how it was, then much respect owed to dignitas and only the best wishes for naniwas getting what he deserves as a player.
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EDIT: nm, made into its own post because it was too long
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Isn't/wasn't he staying at the Startale house? Would make sense to join ST!
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The IM coach in his statement about Fenix said they were actively pursuing an other foreigner.........
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zarepath that is an impressive story
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Anyone else more excited about SotG tonight? :D
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I cant see him being very happy on any team besides a Korean one. He might be happy with one of the foreign teams that has deals with Korean teams to get him in their house though. If he joins a korean team i wont be as much of a fan anymore though . it just doesn't feel the same as a foreigner winning. I would look at him as a Korean
Edit: grammer
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