EPTNow NP can still target Massive, but the range has been creased from 9 to 7?
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Now NP can still target Massive, but the range has been creased from 9 to 7? | ||
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Urbz
Netherlands456 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:09 acrimoneyius wrote: Warp prisms carrying HT will have to become standard to deal with the ghost micro situations, and it will be fine because of how robust they are now. Ye, although it was already pretty standard for let's say White-RA <3 On September 20 2011 20:33 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Sorry guys, maybe I missed it, but I thought...Neural Parasite is no longer able to target Massive units....so I guess it has been canceled? Now NP can still target Massive, but the range has been creased from 9 to 7? Correct, although this was known for awhile already. | ||
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HeliBadger
538 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:33 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Sorry guys, maybe I missed it, but I thought...Neural Parasite is no longer able to target Massive units....so I guess it has been canceled? Now NP can still target Massive, but the range has been creased from 9 to 7? Correct. As far as the leniency range you can move the unit around after it is neuralled, I am unsure | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Well, at least NP still works on massive.. Sigh at Rax time though, not really worried about hellions, since after having + vehicle upgrade they will still 2 shot workers But the Rax time.....5 secs can be huge. But its ok, time to adapt and find new strats!  Happy playing everyone | ||
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Ganseng
Russian Federation473 Posts
i'd guess it'll be up to 1.4.3 :D | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Oh great... >< | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:48 Everlong wrote: I like the fact Hellions won't be so abusive early game. What I really dislike however is how negative impact this has on TvP where Zealots have basically no answer beside kiting MMM.. No way I enjoy TvP playing like a Zerg - just feels so wrong. tanks emp snipe, theres 3 answers right there | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:51 MisterTea wrote: tanks emp snipe, theres 3 answers right there Tanks are an answer to zealots? This is news to me. | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:51 MisterTea wrote: tanks emp snipe, theres 3 answers right there Wow I didn't expect someone to go this far to put tank as a counter to one of the best anti-tank units in the whole game.. I also hope you are joking with snipe, how are you going to snipe 30 zealots charging to your face in less then 5 seconds? Also, I see no problems with Hellions doing this amout of damage to workers later in the game, at least in TvT. It's like leaving your base without Missile Turrets and suddenly a bunch of Mutas appear completly devastating your economy. As Terran you have PF, turret rings, ST, 1-2 siege tanks parked at expos/important places, more than enough to prevent Hellions from ruining your day. | ||
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NoDDiE
Poland170 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:51 MisterTea wrote: tanks emp snipe, theres 3 answers right there tanks are bad idea, vs zealots u wanna kite not be stationary. and with tanks u are doing so. also snipe isnt much cost effective vs zealots cause they have LOTS of hp. emp is much better. i wonder how tvt will look now. change has huge impact early game. there is no diffrence in bf//regular hellions 3shot scv//3shot marine (now its 2/2) only in hellion wars it makes diffrence so rushing for bf wont be so effective now - not worth 150//150 - maybe they should lower the cost ? but in late game diffrences (1.3 vs 1.4) aren't as big. marine with shield is being 3 shot by both types of bf. however in small engaments (like with drops) medivacs will be able to heal marine so it can survive 4 shots. i think that diffrence tank//rine or mech will be much more map dependant. more flanking options and maps where u can abuse mobility = go for marines//tank. | ||
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HydraLF
Hong Kong626 Posts
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Ermac
336 Posts
Imho Blizzard should have waited longer to see how the metagame develops. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On September 20 2011 21:35 Ermac wrote: A sad day for Starcraft 2 - again. Imho Blizzard should have waited longer to see how the metagame develops. Sure, let's get rid of all the Tosses that have survived the Code S till now, that would not be boring at all... | ||
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fritos
United States153 Posts
Anyone knows? | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On September 20 2011 19:06 Supamang wrote: thats a moot point simply because the cost of the drone for Zerg buildings is so damn simple and very clearly a direct cost of the building that it would be ignorant not to factor it into the equation. i really dont know why you are trying to keep drone cost out of the equation because it just makes it seem like youre biased against Zerg His point is that every race has its own unique characteristics and there are very very few direct comparisons that can be made. Some things can be directly compared...like a spore colony is slightly weaker than a missile turret in damage output, but can move and is slightly cheaper. But most things are so different in so many ways that assigning any sort of value to any attribute is nearly impossible. Results are one of the only things that can accurately determine any sort of comparison between races, and even that is flawed because of small sample sizes and differing player skills. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On September 20 2011 21:56 fritos wrote: Is Baneling drop changed or did that remain the same? Anyone knows? baneling drop was never GOING to be changed people are just dumb. | ||
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HeliBadger
538 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/toddkw/VLAL.jpg) CONVENIENCE FUCK YEAH This + league icon displayed next to their name on score screen (if they've done placements) as shown in someone else's screenshot | ||
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ETisME
12904 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:14 superLanboy wrote: CONVENIENCE FUCK YEAH This + league icon displayed next to their name on score screen (if they've done placements) as shown in someone else's screenshot the league icon never showed up for me....I couldn't find the setting for it so I guess it takes time to load up the icon? Or is it just that short cut to check their leagues and not league icons in score screen? My update broke my game, reinstalling all over again....sigh | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:01 Dhalphir wrote: His point is that every race has its own unique characteristics and there are very very few direct comparisons that can be made. Some things can be directly compared...like a spore colony is slightly weaker than a missile turret in damage output, but can move and is slightly cheaper. But most things are so different in so many ways that assigning any sort of value to any attribute is nearly impossible. Results are one of the only things that can accurately determine any sort of comparison between races, and even that is flawed because of small sample sizes and differing player skills. I agree, but he was quoting someone who was reminding someone to add 50 minerals to the cost of spore crawlers because of the drone lost. Building a spore crawler costs 75 minerals and you lose a drone which costs 50 minerals. Its very clear, very direct. There is no reason to leave it out of the discussion | ||
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