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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:28 Logros wrote: Haha yeah, I'm glad I switched to Terran but it still makes me sad to see Protoss disappear from the GSL. everyone switched right? thats so sad TT | ||
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Q8_Devil
United Kingdom63 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
THERE IS ANOTHER...*cough... there is... another.. b-...bis...u... | ||
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RenSC2
United States1100 Posts
It seems like the real innovators aren't necessarily the greatest macro/micro players. To save protoss, I'd look more to guys like White-Ra and Kiwikaki. Of course, it's unlikely that either of them will win a tournament with legit Koreans in it, but the better executors should look to those two to see how they handle PvT. Then they can copy it and execute it better for the wins. As for Hero, when people say "he held off X with only Y", that's not innovation. That's good control. Top protoss players already have that. However, he does do a few interesting things, which makes me believe that maybe he's an innovator... still a little unsure on him. I'm not familiar enough with Sage, JYP, or Sase to comment on them, but no way is Nani an innovator... just another great executor. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:42 Q8_Devil wrote: lol at choosing nani and sase as protoss hope. I'd lol harder than you if they qualify. (Which I want them to, obviously) | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Frozenzen
Sweden97 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + And Jookto falling to jyp is hardlt surprising, jookto has barely done anything in gsl at all. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:49 emc wrote: please use spoilers, the MC game basically just happened you are ruining esports (GSL Spoiler alert) | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:45 RenSC2 wrote: Sadly, the guys at the top of Protoss play don't seem like the best innovators, just great executors. That would include guys like Huk... great micro/macro, but innovator? No way. It seems like the real innovators aren't necessarily the greatest macro/micro players. To save protoss, I'd look more to guys like White-Ra and Kiwikaki. Of course, it's unlikely that either of them will win a tournament with legit Koreans in it, but the better executors should look to those two to see how they handle PvT. Then they can copy it and execute it better for the wins. As for Hero, when people say "he held off X with only Y", that's not innovation. That's good control. Top protoss players already have that. However, he does do a few interesting things, which makes me believe that maybe he's an innovator... still a little unsure on him. I'm not familiar enough with Sage, JYP, or Sase to comment on them, but no way is Nani an innovator... just another great executor. ^ this so much. Probably best innovators right now (just assuming from what I saw) are HerO, Sage and SaSe. So these are the guys I would look forward the most. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:49 emc wrote: please use spoilers, the MC game basically just happened you are ruining esports And you can't read a thread title. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:49 emc wrote: please use spoilers, the MC game basically just happened you are ruining esports yes because the is no (GSL Spoiler) in the thread name..... | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:56 bittman wrote: No HongUn? Everyone always forgets about him, or just dismisses him because when he loses...well he loses. But he constantly beats players in "surprise". I doubt he'll ever revolutionise the race, but he's not going away any time soon haha. HongUn is terrible gimmicky player and I'm willing to bet he will be in code B in 4 seasons.. If he has to be our protoss hero, then I'll rather be heroless. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:07 ondik wrote: HongUn is terrible gimmicky player and I'm willing to bet he will be in code B in 4 seasons.. If he has to be our protoss hero, then I'll rather be heroless. Lovely attitude. Bet you think TheBest and Rain are terrible players too, since your adjective of "terrible" is based on what has been, not what could be. There are a lot of players who were gimmicky as hell, and have really looked strong since copping a slap to the face. Protoss heroes obviously aren't going to be coming from "what has been", but rather "what could be". If you personally are looking for a hero, don't be picky if one appears and you don't like him because he looked bad in the past. MC used to be the toss hero, and people thought he was laughable in Brood War. Take what you get, don't act entitled =P | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:07 ondik wrote: HongUn is terrible gimmicky player and I'm willing to bet he will be in code B in 4 seasons.. If he has to be our protoss hero, then I'll rather be heroless. If HongUn is a terrible gimmicky player, I don't know what MC is... MC basically "invented" about every timing push protoss has, and HongUn uses them well because he can't really play macro games because of RSI issues, so he is as gimmicky as MC... and he crushes terrans a lot. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:23 Drey wrote: Funny how Huk has been in code S for some time and doing decently and people still underestimates him. ^THIS^ Huk is the best performing Protoss in the world right now. It took frickin' MVP to knock him out of the GSL and the absolutely BRUTAL Thorzain (with Huk one of the two best foreign players out there) to knock him out of Dreamhack. | ||
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:28 althaz wrote: ^THIS^ Huk is the best performing Protoss in the world right now. It took frickin' MVP to knock him out of the GSL and the absolutely BRUTAL Thorzain (with Huk one of the two best foreign players out there) to knock him out of Dreamhack. He didn't get out of group stages in both Assembly Summer & IEM... Come on, even MC did better by reaching the final crushing everyone except PuMa. | ||
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