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setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
September 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#21
Puzzle is the second best protoss out there, after MC in terms of win-rate. Pls give him due credit instead of over-rated players like Hero who have yet to perform anything noteworthy.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 10:04:47
September 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#22
Posting a thread with a title like that right after MC and Alicia played in Code A pretty much spoiled me already for the results t.t.

Also why is HuK not on that list? He's one of 2 protoss that actually won some games last season and reached the Ro8. He's probably the best performing Protoss in the GSL atm.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
September 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#23
What about Mana, he's incredibly good, one of the top EU protoss.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
September 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#24
On September 19 2011 18:39 HellKey wrote:
I hope that protoss doesn't get buffed anytime soon, i'd rather protoss come out of the dark age thanks to an awesome player (example bisu) than thanks to some stupid buff...

I really hope that hero will lead us to a brighter future


i agree but its like MC was the only one already then now hes code B TT

will we always have 1 only guy that can actually win things?
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
September 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#25
Hero is our hope in PvZ (which I think is close to balanced and just suffering from meta-game problems atm, Bliz doesn't need to nerf infestors, IMO), because he is the BEST in that matchup in the world, bar none. In fact to me he seems like the most talented player running around in SC2, but he needs to work harder on his forward planning to get there. So frickin' good tho.

However, I feel like Huk is maybe the best at PvT (mostly due to his ridiculous control when defending), it's just that the matchup is kinda hard right now (many Toss can't win it at all). Huk also has excellent PvZ and very solid PvP (insofar as anybody does). He's also still in Code S and doing pretty well in general. I understand he's not a new player but he is getting better and better as I think at this stage that not only is he the most likely foreign player to take a Code S win but he's also the most likely Protoss to take out the tournament as well. However I don't think a Protoss will win anything major until Factory pushes can be dealt with after expanding (whilst still being safe to Bio pressure) and they get a buff or 2 (or Terran get a nerf ofc).
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#26
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 10:06:43
September 19 2011 10:05 GMT
#27
On September 19 2011 19:01 -Archangel- wrote:
Lol, no Huk?

And I must say I love JYP from the moments I seen him dismantle DRG


After recent performances and showings kinda hard to say hes a top toss right now. Last code s he was able to play pvp against killer TWICE to stay in and Nada played really bad PvT. If he makes it past this ro32 then yeah it would be good but its far from the strongest group.

Puzzle has Ryung-Mkcheeseprime and Bomber. Puzzles the hero toss needs for code s.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
September 19 2011 10:07 GMT
#28
SaSe gogogo, warp prism thoose mineral lines
Toast and coffe
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
September 19 2011 10:07 GMT
#29
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.


Huk got roflestomped too...
badog
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 19 2011 10:07 GMT
#30
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.

Except that Rain & ThorZain were better players than NaNiWa and Hero ^^'.
WriterMaru
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
September 19 2011 10:09 GMT
#31
On September 19 2011 19:04 althaz wrote:
Hero is our hope in PvZ (which I think is close to balanced and just suffering from meta-game problems atm, Bliz doesn't need to nerf infestors, IMO), because he is the BEST in that matchup in the world, bar none. In fact to me he seems like the most talented player running around in SC2, but he needs to work harder on his forward planning to get there. So frickin' good tho.

However, I feel like Huk is maybe the best at PvT (mostly due to his ridiculous control when defending), it's just that the matchup is kinda hard right now (many Toss can't win it at all). Huk also has excellent PvZ and very solid PvP (insofar as anybody does). He's also still in Code S and doing pretty well in general. I understand he's not a new player but he is getting better and better as I think at this stage that not only is he the most likely foreign player to take a Code S win but he's also the most likely Protoss to take out the tournament as well. However I don't think a Protoss will win anything major until Factory pushes can be dealt with after expanding (whilst still being safe to Bio pressure) and they get a buff or 2 (or Terran get a nerf ofc).


Yeah from watching HerO playing PvZ, you kinda notice how good templars are if used well (and they kinda rofl at infestorz)!
Toast and coffe
n0ah
Profile Joined June 2011
United States250 Posts
September 19 2011 10:11 GMT
#32
A little piece of me died today as I watched SlayerSAlicia hold his head in his hands. ='(

I don't even know what to feel about MC. It's like I don't even want to play this game anymore...
If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 19 2011 10:12 GMT
#33
On September 19 2011 19:07 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.

Except that Rain & ThorZain were better players than NaNiWa and Hero ^^'.

Hero is better than Thorzain and Rain, his first game alone where he managed to last so long after defending a 2rax with 1gate way (late 2nd gateway), 1Stargate, losing 13 Probes and being 2mins behind on his expo should be enough to say that
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
September 19 2011 10:14 GMT
#34
On September 19 2011 19:11 n0ah wrote:
A little piece of me died today as I watched SlayerSAlicia hold his head in his hands. ='(

I don't even know what to feel about MC. It's like I don't even want to play this game anymore...


Lol.

You should have played Zerg during the beginning of this game. You come off as being pretty spoiled, if this makes you want to quit the game then Zerg during 1.00 would have made you want to quit life.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
September 19 2011 10:18 GMT
#35
On September 19 2011 19:11 n0ah wrote:
A little piece of me died today as I watched SlayerSAlicia hold his head in his hands. ='(

I don't even know what to feel about MC. It's like I don't even want to play this game anymore...


A part of me died seeing Alicia get crushed too. The rest died along w/ MC.

Then I realized I play Terran and opened a beer for Select's GSL run.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#36
On September 19 2011 19:12 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:07 Poopi wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.

Except that Rain & ThorZain were better players than NaNiWa and Hero ^^'.

Hero is better than Thorzain and Rain, his first game alone where he managed to last so long after defending a 2rax with 1gate way (late 2nd gateway), 1Stargate, losing 13 Probes and being 2mins behind on his expo should be enough to say that

Lol how is he a better player than ThorZain?
ThorZain nearly won against DongRaeGu in his worst match-up, it's like HerO losing 2-3 against NesTea for a 15000 dollars match (aka NesTea playing seriously) since DRG is like top 2 ZvT, plus he crushed him head-to-head and has better results in the GSTL, equal results in GSL (1-2 in r32 code A).
About Rain I'm not really sure if he is better than NaNiwa because it's close since Rain is not in korea anymore, games could have went either way, but ThorZain is definitively better than HerO.
WriterMaru
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 19 2011 10:27 GMT
#37
On September 19 2011 19:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:12 Dommk wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:07 Poopi wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.

Except that Rain & ThorZain were better players than NaNiWa and Hero ^^'.

Hero is better than Thorzain and Rain, his first game alone where he managed to last so long after defending a 2rax with 1gate way (late 2nd gateway), 1Stargate, losing 13 Probes and being 2mins behind on his expo should be enough to say that

Lol how is he a better player than ThorZain?
ThorZain nearly won against DongRaeGu in his worst match-up, it's like HerO losing 2-3 against NesTea for a 15000 dollars match (aka NesTea playing seriously) since DRG is like top 2 ZvT, plus he crushed him head-to-head and has better results in the GSTL, equal results in GSL (1-2 in r32 code A).
About Rain I'm not really sure if he is better than NaNiwa because it's close since Rain is not in korea anymore, games could have went either way, but ThorZain is definitively better than HerO.

I say Hero is because he is one of the few top Protoss's right now that is having any form of success these days, especially in PvZ where you have Zergs who don't even make a single creep tumor beating players like MC >_>
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
September 19 2011 10:28 GMT
#38
On September 19 2011 19:18 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:11 n0ah wrote:
A little piece of me died today as I watched SlayerSAlicia hold his head in his hands. ='(

I don't even know what to feel about MC. It's like I don't even want to play this game anymore...


A part of me died seeing Alicia get crushed too. The rest died along w/ MC.

Then I realized I play Terran and opened a beer for Select's GSL run.

Haha yeah, I'm glad I switched to Terran but it still makes me sad to see Protoss disappear from the GSL.
RTudoRR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Romania216 Posts
September 19 2011 10:28 GMT
#39
On September 19 2011 18:34 Pervect wrote:
Hero, Sage, and Sase gonna wreck Code A.... I believe !!!



they are gonna GET wrecked u mean.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 10:39:04
September 19 2011 10:35 GMT
#40
On September 19 2011 19:27 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:21 Poopi wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:12 Dommk wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:07 Poopi wrote:
On September 19 2011 19:04 Yaki wrote:
Protoss in general are having a bad time it's not just MC and Alicia. HerO and Naniwa got roflestomped by terran at Dreamhack. Just wait MC will make a come back and win a championship again.

Except that Rain & ThorZain were better players than NaNiWa and Hero ^^'.

Hero is better than Thorzain and Rain, his first game alone where he managed to last so long after defending a 2rax with 1gate way (late 2nd gateway), 1Stargate, losing 13 Probes and being 2mins behind on his expo should be enough to say that

Lol how is he a better player than ThorZain?
ThorZain nearly won against DongRaeGu in his worst match-up, it's like HerO losing 2-3 against NesTea for a 15000 dollars match (aka NesTea playing seriously) since DRG is like top 2 ZvT, plus he crushed him head-to-head and has better results in the GSTL, equal results in GSL (1-2 in r32 code A).
About Rain I'm not really sure if he is better than NaNiwa because it's close since Rain is not in korea anymore, games could have went either way, but ThorZain is definitively better than HerO.

I say Hero is because he is one of the few top Protoss's right now that is having any form of success these days, especially in PvZ where you have Zergs who don't even make a single creep tumor beating players like MC >_>

Yeah he is a promising protoss but he didn't lost against ThorZain because of his race or something like that...
About MC he lost to HongUn so it's not only his race either, even if that doesn't help.

GSL Code A Spoiler :
+ Show Spoiler +
JYP crushing through oGsJookTo


I think that SaSe, Sage and Puzzle will win as well as NaNiwa and Huk, but it will be hard.

GSL Code A Spoiler again :
+ Show Spoiler +
I feel that MC will smash MLG so hard now that he is in code B, MKP 1st MC 2nd with MC grabbing the code S spot
WriterMaru
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