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On September 04 2011 19:34 FinBenton wrote:
Is there even sixjax anymore? People saying that they dont have commication, they dont send players to tournaments like mlg and it doesnt benefit to be a part of that team so...
Who is saying they don't have communication?
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what good would that do sixjax anyway? if they actually do sue one of their previous member, everybody is just gonna turn their back on sixjax and their organization goes down the drain....
so they'd do this out of spite?
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On September 05 2011 12:40 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:34 Defacer wrote:On September 05 2011 12:30 Primadog wrote:
Being sued is life-ruining, Destiny. Not really. Terminal cancer or going to jail is life-ruining. Being sued for whatever-thousands of dollars is just shitty. Although threatening to sue someone is a shitty way to do business. I won't go into my life story, since that's way off topic, but here's a case of some TL kid got (threatened) sued http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=261229Of course, the circumstances are different: while the counterparty in boon's situation simply wants some money, sixjax (according to skew and major) wants to ruin the kids life through court. In that case, they will certainly drag the shit out if they want to. Let me do the simple math for you, $350/hr court cost, $150/hr office cost. If sixjax wants to play ugly, they can drag the case up for two weeks. The in-court fees can easily go over 100 hours and out-of-court will double that amount. Even if sixjax lost, the legal fees would be in the tens of thousands. If sixjax wants to play dirty and use the court as a weapon, as alluded to by skew and major. That, will be life-ruining. Not even considering all the mental and familial strain all these will result.
no....just....no
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On September 05 2011 12:36 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:33 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. I'm pretty sure being sued is ruining yours and your family's life. I'm pretty sure you're 14 years old and $500 sounds like an incredible sum of money to you, but being sued is not ruining someone's life.
LOL. Sorry, I just had to quote this for truth. Some people on this board have no sense of perspective.
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The truth is guys, it's just as likely that Sixjax is having financial difficulties and can no longer afford to fully fund a Starcraft 2 team (we are still in a worldwide recession after all).
So while we can argue about this and that, we should all just be sad that another company attempted to get into E-Sports, maybe didn't budget correctly at the outset, and are now going to be forced to withdraw from the scene.
The same could be said about Pokerstars/Root. At least IGN decided to start up Reign.
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On September 05 2011 12:49 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:44 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:39 Chriscras wrote:On September 05 2011 12:37 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:35 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:27 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:23 TechSC wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:
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Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in?
Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life. It depends on the terms of the contract. Just because you're being "sued" doesn't mean it will destroy your life. If I make a contract with you that you have to pay me $50 if I show up to your friend's birthday party, and then I skip out on it, you can't suddenly take me to court for $100000000000000 and my first-born son. I seriously doubt anything in any pro gaming contract would give a company enough lee-way to sue for any dramatic amount of money. You're clutching at straws here. Any sort of legal case is going to an effect on your family, and usually a negative one. I'm not "clutching straws", what the fuck is wrong with you? "Having an effect on your family" IS NOT THE SAME AS "life-ruining". I completely agree with Destiny. The worst that Major and his Mom would go through would be hiring a lawyer. I doubt judicial resources would even be wasted on such a ridiculous lawsuit, it would never go to trial. Still wouldn't be cheap though... Have you actually seen some of the lawsuits that make it to court, ridiculous is the norm not the exception. Not true, you've probably read too many media stories about crazy lawsuits.
Please peruse these lovely examples
http://www.all-top-10-lists.com/7-top-stupid-lawsuits-that-won-big-money/2009/07/
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On September 05 2011 12:51 ReignFayth wrote:
what good would that do sixjax anyway? if they actually do sue one of their previous member, everybody is just gonna turn their back on sixjax and their organization goes down the drain....
so they'd do this out of spite?
Yea I think it's safe to say that Sixjax players shouldn't worry about being sued if they leave the team lol. Then again this whole discussion is based on Skew's unsubstantiated claim that Sixjax is actually threatening to sue on a regular basis, which as Destiny pointed out is a ridiculous claim to make without backing it up...
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Well this isn't suprising.
Too bad for Sixjax and MajOr.
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On September 05 2011 12:52 Chriscras wrote:
The truth is guys, it's just as likely that Sixjax is having financial difficulties and can no longer afford to fully fund a Starcraft 2 team (we are still in a worldwide recession after all).
So while we can argue about this and that, we should all just be sad that another company attempted to get into E-Sports, maybe didn't budget correctly at the outset, and are now going to be forced to withdraw from the scene.
The same could be said about Pokerstars/Root. At least IGN decided to start up Reign.
I don't think IGN started Reign...... O.O
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Well all the dirty laundry is getting aired out already, so we'll see if Sixjax will sue Skew and Major. I don't think it will come to that, because that's a shitload of really bad PR. If it did happen, Artosis would definitely leave, screw contracts, and he would talk about it in GSL and SOTG. I expect the community would launch a defense fund as well - there are plenty of rich SC fans out there.
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On September 05 2011 12:36 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:33 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. I'm pretty sure being sued is ruining yours and your family's life. I'm pretty sure you're 14 years old and $500 sounds like an incredible sum of money to you, but being sued is not ruining someone's life. Please, if you have no idea what you're talking about, refrain from making these kinds of comments. There's NO possible way that a contract that involves a $300/month salary and free travel to "some" paid events would ever result in someone getting sued for a life-changing amount of money. Just because it sounds life-changing to someone in high school doesn't mean it would ruin someone's life.
He said ruin, not life-changing. Ruin can mean a number of things as a verb, for example hinder. But i really can't be bothered to get into an eight hour semantics debate. I'm pretty sure when skew said it, he realised that it wasn't going to change the players lives who leave forever. You're clutching at straws.
And please just stop with the 'you sound like a 14 year old/you must be silver.' argument. It's just stupid. I probably make more money than you ffs.
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On September 05 2011 12:53 Slider954 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:49 Doodsmack wrote:On September 05 2011 12:44 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:39 Chriscras wrote:On September 05 2011 12:37 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:35 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:27 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:23 TechSC wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:
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It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard.
And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys.
Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?)
ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life. It depends on the terms of the contract. Just because you're being "sued" doesn't mean it will destroy your life. If I make a contract with you that you have to pay me $50 if I show up to your friend's birthday party, and then I skip out on it, you can't suddenly take me to court for $100000000000000 and my first-born son. I seriously doubt anything in any pro gaming contract would give a company enough lee-way to sue for any dramatic amount of money. You're clutching at straws here. Any sort of legal case is going to an effect on your family, and usually a negative one. I'm not "clutching straws", what the fuck is wrong with you? "Having an effect on your family" IS NOT THE SAME AS "life-ruining". I completely agree with Destiny. The worst that Major and his Mom would go through would be hiring a lawyer. I doubt judicial resources would even be wasted on such a ridiculous lawsuit, it would never go to trial. Still wouldn't be cheap though... Have you actually seen some of the lawsuits that make it to court, ridiculous is the norm not the exception. Not true, you've probably read too many media stories about crazy lawsuits. Please peruse these lovely examples http://www.all-top-10-lists.com/7-top-stupid-lawsuits-that-won-big-money/2009/07/
Lol you're using that as evidence for the "norm" in the US legal system?
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On September 05 2011 12:50 stormchaser wrote:
If you get sued by a company that can throw money away, they have nothing to lose. I don't care about the terms used (like destiny is arguing), whether the case is life-ruining or not, that is ridiculous.
But is sixjax wealthy enough to throw money away?
I seriously doubt that
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On September 05 2011 12:47 Chriscras wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:44 Primadog wrote:On September 05 2011 12:43 Chriscras wrote:On September 05 2011 12:40 Primadog wrote:On September 05 2011 12:34 Defacer wrote:On September 05 2011 12:30 Primadog wrote:
Being sued is life-ruining, Destiny. Not really. Terminal cancer or going to jail is life-ruining. Being sued for whatever-thousands of dollars is just shitty. Although threatening to sue someone is a shitty way to do business. I won't go into my life story, since that's way off topic, but here's a case of some TL kid got (threatened) sued http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=261229Of course, the circumstances are different: while the counterparty in boon's situation simply wants some money, sixjax (according to skew and major) wants to ruin the kids life through court. In that case, they will certainly drag the shit out if they want to. Let me do the simple math for you, $350/hr court cost, $150/hr office cost. If sixjax wants to play ugly, they can drag the case up for two weeks. The in-court fees can easily go over 100 hours and out-of-court will double that amount. Even if sixjax lost, the legal fees would be in the tens of thousands. If sixjax wants to play dirty and use the court as a weapon, as alluded to by skew and major. That, will be life-ruining. LOL Primadog you have certainly been watching a lot of court dramas haven't you  I wish. Been through these shit way too many times. It sucks balls. Well then, for you to have gone to trial on multiple occasions I feel very sorry for you  But you must have been dealing with legal issues far beyond what Major's contract with Sixjax contained. Especially if Sixjax couldn't even be bothered to pay for Juan's travel.
Bothered to pay probably had more to do with simply not wanting to send him vs. not being able to afford. As far as legal ramifications we can't/don't know contracts can be written in to crazy stuff far beyond what most people would think of as fair. Not to mention it's fairly easy to prey on people who don't know the legal system well (90+% of people) and using intimidation when you are a cooperation vs a single family happens a LOT. Regardless of if the contract allows a player to be sued for a large sum of money or not, many people would simply be intimated in to thinking that being sued would automatically result in huge problems for them. Lawsuits are also unknowns especially in the US where common sense would seem to be obvious but the actual result is far from it. If by some means one party was able to delay the court proceedings to last multiple days the court costs are stupidly high.
Life ruining money is up to the individual person, to some it is very high but to others it is not. For some people added charges of a few thousand could lead to bankruptcy (sadly not that rare). Which is life changing and depending on age ruining.
Without knowing the specifics of the contract (hopefully the one on reddit gets released) anything about the nature of the legal possibilities are simply that possibilities. Pretending to know otherwise would be a fallacy.
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On September 05 2011 12:53 Slider954 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:49 Doodsmack wrote:On September 05 2011 12:44 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:39 Chriscras wrote:On September 05 2011 12:37 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:35 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:27 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:23 TechSC wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:
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It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard.
And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys.
Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?)
ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life. It depends on the terms of the contract. Just because you're being "sued" doesn't mean it will destroy your life. If I make a contract with you that you have to pay me $50 if I show up to your friend's birthday party, and then I skip out on it, you can't suddenly take me to court for $100000000000000 and my first-born son. I seriously doubt anything in any pro gaming contract would give a company enough lee-way to sue for any dramatic amount of money. You're clutching at straws here. Any sort of legal case is going to an effect on your family, and usually a negative one. I'm not "clutching straws", what the fuck is wrong with you? "Having an effect on your family" IS NOT THE SAME AS "life-ruining". I completely agree with Destiny. The worst that Major and his Mom would go through would be hiring a lawyer. I doubt judicial resources would even be wasted on such a ridiculous lawsuit, it would never go to trial. Still wouldn't be cheap though... Have you actually seen some of the lawsuits that make it to court, ridiculous is the norm not the exception. Not true, you've probably read too many media stories about crazy lawsuits. Please peruse these lovely examples http://www.all-top-10-lists.com/7-top-stupid-lawsuits-that-won-big-money/2009/07/
Why are you using a "top" list (one that can't even get 10 cases btw on a site called top 10 lists), as the 'norm' for courts?
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On September 05 2011 12:53 Slider954 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:49 Doodsmack wrote:On September 05 2011 12:44 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:39 Chriscras wrote:On September 05 2011 12:37 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:35 TheHova wrote:On September 05 2011 12:27 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 12:23 TechSC wrote:On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:
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It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard.
And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys.
Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?)
ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life. It depends on the terms of the contract. Just because you're being "sued" doesn't mean it will destroy your life. If I make a contract with you that you have to pay me $50 if I show up to your friend's birthday party, and then I skip out on it, you can't suddenly take me to court for $100000000000000 and my first-born son. I seriously doubt anything in any pro gaming contract would give a company enough lee-way to sue for any dramatic amount of money. You're clutching at straws here. Any sort of legal case is going to an effect on your family, and usually a negative one. I'm not "clutching straws", what the fuck is wrong with you? "Having an effect on your family" IS NOT THE SAME AS "life-ruining". I completely agree with Destiny. The worst that Major and his Mom would go through would be hiring a lawyer. I doubt judicial resources would even be wasted on such a ridiculous lawsuit, it would never go to trial. Still wouldn't be cheap though... Have you actually seen some of the lawsuits that make it to court, ridiculous is the norm not the exception. Not true, you've probably read too many media stories about crazy lawsuits. Please peruse these lovely examples http://www.all-top-10-lists.com/7-top-stupid-lawsuits-that-won-big-money/2009/07/
LOL Slider why don't you post the national enquirer while you are at it?
All of those lawsuits involve TORTS which are injuries to a person. Major is facing a contract dispute, a dispute over his "performance" no less. Like everyone else keeps saying, his legal problems would pail in comparison to personal injury lawsuits.
P.S. 90% of all lawsuits never go to trial.
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On September 05 2011 12:55 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:50 stormchaser wrote:
If you get sued by a company that can throw money away, they have nothing to lose. I don't care about the terms used (like destiny is arguing), whether the case is life-ruining or not, that is ridiculous. But is sixjax wealthy enough to throw money away? I seriously doubt that
That I don't know either, but from looking at their website, they have a similar business model as lockerz. Also a company i wouldn't trust.
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On September 05 2011 12:50 stormchaser wrote:
If you get sued by a company that can throw money away, they have nothing to lose. I don't care about the terms used (like destiny is arguing), whether the case is life-ruining or not, that is ridiculous.
Actually, company's should sue as a last resort, always. It's expensive, time consuming, and allows your issues to be settled by intermediaries and third parties, where you're unlikely to get what you wanted originally. It forces both sides to double-down on their positions, making it impossible to reach a reasonable compromise. Not to mention that it's horrible for your image.
Not matter what Major may or may not have done, Sixjax blindly threatening to sue a dirt-poor gamer is a stupid way to do business. It's the kind of scrub, hacky tactic that shitty managers use to intimidate people. They would lose more than they would gain.
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On September 05 2011 12:03 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 11:42 x6Paramore wrote:On September 05 2011 11:35 Vendor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 05 2011 10:52 x6Paramore wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 10:51 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 10:45 x6Paramore wrote:On September 05 2011 10:33 TitleRug wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! thanks for the explanation Give me a fucking break. First of all, if they aren't paying for you to go to MLG, they can't afford to hire a lawyer to sue you in the first place. Second of all, you probably can't get sued because there are a ton of ways to get out of it. Third, and this is probably most important of all, the only reason they would ever sue you is for damages. These damages would have to cover the amount of money they use to sue you (hiring a lawyer that they can't afford) and not to mention, you would have to have money in the first place. Given that you are all gamers playing 9-5 for months on end (as mentioned in your post), I doubt you have any fucking money whatsoever. So therefore "lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued" is a fucking load of shit. Walk away from the clan if you feel like it, seriously. You are assuming that they can't afford to send people to MLG as opposed to WON'T send people there, big difference. In other words, they most likely do have the money to spend, they just don't want to spend it unless they needed to, eg legal action. Trust me... even if this ever went to being sued. Nobody would win. No one has to win, depending on how the contracts are written they defiantly would have the legal right to sue you as a player if you tried to leave your contract. Of course no one would win but it would come down to loss of money. A company that makes tons of money vs a gamer who makes very little. The company could make life very difficult for a gamer due to this. You seem to be under the impression that sixjax has money. I'm sorry ^_^. Please find one piece of information that says they dont.
The part where this is empty. http://sixjaxgaming.com/page/sponsor
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On September 05 2011 12:51 ReignFayth wrote:
what good would that do sixjax anyway? if they actually do sue one of their previous member, everybody is just gonna turn their back on sixjax and their organization goes down the drain....
so they'd do this out of spite?
Never doubt people to do strange and stupid things Fayth
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