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On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community.
Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement?
"As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming.
Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere."
They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now?
And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby
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Seems like more and more dirty things are coming out about sixjax and im not in the least bit surprised. Im sure if artosis wasnt under contract (and possibly being threatened to be sued) he would be running for the hills right now. Its a shame that talented players are getting taken advantage of by this company.
If what skew says is true (he should provide some more information like destiny says) then sixjax should be boycotted.
Sixjax is RUINING ESPORTS!
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On September 05 2011 12:20 hydra21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community. Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement? "As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming. Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere." They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now? And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby
That is their side of the story and what he posted is his. Just like how Major and Sixjax's statements dont line up, i dont see how this is any different.
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On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads.
My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life.
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So is Evoli really just keeping his mouth shut? Things are not looking good for Sixjax  ...
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On September 05 2011 12:20 hydra21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community. Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement? "As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming. Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere." They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now? And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby
Is any team in any PR ever going to make something look bad and cause drama? Especially if it's on their end that makes them look bad? No. Of course not..they are going to make it look like 'we didn't agree with our views so it was in each others best interest to part ways" as with every other person that leaves a contract for whatever reason, when usually there's more to it than that. So don't use announcements from teams as a reliable source because we have no idea what was said, what was done, what has been done.
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On September 05 2011 12:20 hydra21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community. Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement? "As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming. Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere." They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now? And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby
By the same token, Sixjack also has contractual obligations to their players and it doesn't seem that they are fulfilling them as evidenced by not sending anybody to MLG.
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It's clear that both Skew and Major are released from their sixjax contract without resorting to court (and assumed without an exchange of penalties).
It's also clear that both Skew and Major had major grievances which led to their dismissal/release. If during these final negotiations that anyone from sixjax made any kind of legal intimation, we should know about it.
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I like the part where he pretends being a douche bag is OK. Silly whatever-name-you're-using-today, maybe you'll understand how life works some day.
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On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads.
skew is right he was in sixjax and he had to witness many time i was threated to be sued if i leave the team
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On September 05 2011 12:25 Primadog wrote:
It's clear that both Skew and Major are released from their sixjax contract without resorting to court (and assumed without an exchange of penalties).
It's also clear that both Skew and Major had major grievances which led to their dismissal/release. If during these final negotiations that anyone from sixjax made any kind of legal intimation, we should know about it.
intimidation**
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On September 05 2011 12:22 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:20 hydra21 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community. Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement? "As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming. Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere." They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now? And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby That is their side of the story and what he posted is his. Just like how Major and Sixjax's statements dont line up, i dont see how this is any different.
Except for the fact he is saying no one can leave and they are threatening to sue if they try, yet he was released from his damn contract. And the reason he was released was because they both wanted different things and amicably split.
This isn't "he said, she said." It's "he said a story that doesn't match up with reality."
Also notice how skew never refuted what they said in that post at any point in time about their split.
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On September 05 2011 12:23 TechSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. My guess is he'd eluding to the fact that if a contract is broken, you can be sued. Being sued can definitely ruin your life and your families life.
It depends on the terms of the contract. Just because you're being "sued" doesn't mean it will destroy your life.
If I make a contract with you that you have to pay me $50 if I show up to your friend's birthday party, and then I skip out on it, you can't suddenly take me to court for $100000000000000 and my first-born son. I seriously doubt anything in any pro gaming contract would give a company enough lee-way to sue for any dramatic amount of money.
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On September 05 2011 12:27 sixjaxMajor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads. skew is right he was in sixjax and he had to witness many time i was threated to be sued if i leave the team
So you had been wanting to leave for a while?
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Being sued is life-ruining, Destiny.
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On April 10 2011 SixJax.MajOr wrote:
I feel like I should be rewarded financially for how much time I've been planning to put in. Helping me do this full time and helping me travel is something that Sixjaxgaming is willing to do for me. ^^
On September 05 2011 10:09 Dox wrote:Pretty sure everyone saw this coming the day he joined the team. That last line made it quite clear that he was only interested in joining a team that would give him money.
I agree Dox. The last sentence betrays a sense of entitlement that you would associate with someone that needs more time to mature -- he wants to be rewarded and paid for what he's planning to accomplish, rather than his actual achievements.
I'm not sure if Major is a good guy or not, but he would benefit from more patience, like all ambitious guys his age.
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On September 05 2011 12:27 hydra21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 12:22 cheesemaster wrote:On September 05 2011 12:20 hydra21 wrote:On September 05 2011 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If Sixjax really is threatening to sue their players for leaving, they need to be outted hardcore and boycotted by the community. Know what's funny? All of you are buying into what skew said. Do any of you remember the fact they released skew from his contract and this was the announcement? "As of today Alex 'Skew' Brola will no longer be representing Sixjax Gaming. Though Skew is a fantastic player, and a good friend, his wants and vision as a player differed from our wants and vision as a team. After many conversations on the matter both parties realized it would be in everyone's best interest to release him. The entire Sixjax Gaming organization wishes him the best as his Starcraft II career continues elsewhere." They had a conversation, and they realized he wanted different things and they let him go does that sound anything like what he describes now? And by the way, even if it is true, are you kidding me regarding them not having the right to sue players if they violate their contracts? What's the point of even having a contract at that point? Are you seriously that clueless? Do you not get there is money involved in all of this? This isn't a freaking hobby That is their side of the story and what he posted is his. Just like how Major and Sixjax's statements dont line up, i dont see how this is any different. Except for the fact he is saying no one can leave and they are threatening to sue if they try, yet he was released from his damn contract. And the reason he was released was because they both wanted different things and amicably split. This isn't "he said, she said." It's "he said a story that doesn't match up with reality." Also notice how skew never refuted what they said in that post at any point in time about their split.
Well major just said himself that skew witnessed major being threatened to be sued many times when he tried to leave, so thats probably what skew was referring too.
Regardless i highly doubt that the split was amicable based on what skew is saying, he didnt like what sixjax was doing and he wanted to leave, its not like they both magically came to the same decision at the same time. He wanted to leave, they discussed it many times and finally agreed to let him go (their could have been some threats involved before then we dont know either way) Just like how it seems like major was threatened to be sued multiple times before they eventually released him from his contract.
My guess is that they were breaking a clause in their contract with him as well (IE sending him to korea , and he had arranged everything but the travel, so they couldnt come up with any more excuses) and saw this as an opportunity to let him go based on past misconduct.
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On September 05 2011 12:17 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 09:50 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 06:07 Mordiford wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Skew wrote:
lol not a single player would be on Sixjax right now if they weren't afraid of being sued Elaborate or what the fuck was the point of chiming in? Just to stir up some stupid drama? It's not my place to tell you the specifics of why players on Sixjax don't like it, but to point out the fact that MajOr isn't the only one that is unhappy. So certain folks acting like he got removed because of the SEA shit or because he clan hops is a retard. And I guess I should say it's to do with Sixjax specifically, not Evoli or Artosis. How anyone could NOT like either of those guys. Basically we have a lot of "progamers" spending 9-5s months on end practicing SC2 for our enjoyment, and they're taken advantage of by companies (teams) that don't even PRETEND to give a shit. Yea, maybe it's not their place to. Sixjax isn't the only one to blame though, but with the recent incidents it just solidifies how fucking little they care. They basically get free advertising for .50 cents an hour (think about that) with the only promise that the players would get to go to a single LAN event to grow their names, and then they're like "Ahhhhh shit we forgot about that event guys, but at least we pay you in monopoly money to make up for it! And here's a free shirt with our retarded ass logo to go with it so you can brag about doing something and not getting paid for it!" Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life (nah that part had to be made up right?) ESPORTS! I don't know much about your history with sixjax because I don't really follow this stuff, not too much, but you CANNOT make claims like "Oh and even though we don't do shit for you, if you try to leave we'll ruin you and your family's life" without something serious to back it up. It's pretty irresponsible/drama-inciting with little to no factual information behind it. Either elaborate more on this or stay out of these kinds of threads.
I'm pretty sure being sued is ruining yours and your family's life.
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On September 05 2011 12:30 Primadog wrote:
Being sued is life-ruining, Destiny.
Not really. Terminal cancer or going to jail is life-ruining. Being sued for whatever-thousands of dollars is just shitty.
Although threatening to sue someone is a shitty way to do business.
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