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Mawn
Sweden13 Posts
The thread was located in: Forums > Gameplay > Public Test Realm > A The Section "Public Test Realm" is hidden for now, but maybe this hints of a possible PTR coming to EU? EDIT: Link: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2565246542 Credits to Plintstorm on EU Forums for finding the thread. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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Atlasy
Hungary229 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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Serashin
235 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
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Strike_
Netherlands704 Posts
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
wasnt there always a ptr for EU?  | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:12 Giwoon wrote: what... wasnt there always a ptr for EU? Nope,  . | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
. And poof map is imba and removed, atleast if enough hate the map with such a passion. | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
It's about time. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9049 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote: What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?. Something about terran i assume, as Dustin Browder recently said they are doing too well. | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote: What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?. Oh dear, you started it :D balance flame incoming. | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
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Mawn
Sweden13 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:28 alepov wrote: Oh dear, you started it :D balance flame incoming. Is the balance flame blue?? :DD jkjk | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:21 Elefanto wrote: Something about terran i assume, as Dustin Browder recently said they are doing too well. Hmmm, I've probably missed this. Link? Thanks | ||
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kuroshiro
United Kingdom378 Posts
Just hope it's gonna hit Korea as well. | ||
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ToastieNL
Netherlands845 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote: What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?. The bunker build time still isn't quite right. | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On August 20 2011 21:39 Reason.SC2 wrote: The bunker build time still isn't quite right. they should just make it take 1 second to build for each 1 mineral you want back with salvage, so atm 75 seconds | ||
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mburke05
United States130 Posts
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
Yes i agree that there is no need to nerf hellions, it's just that the other races don't have as many options as terran, so they get upset when terran busts out another to be even more versatile. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On August 20 2011 21:49 mburke05 wrote: I dont know how people can just randomly say nerf blue flame helions because of their dramatic rise in popularity, the skill hasnt changed in large part for months, and people havent complained about it all. Meanwhile, fungal gets buffed dramatically, and zerg results dramatically increase, and people conveniently look away? Just because terrans are learning to use their assets (one that has been there for 8 months unchanged mind you) doesn't mean others who can't deal with them should be rewarded. Blue flame has always been strong vs every race. Terran has a lot of options. Why bother exploring early/mid game blue flame when other things win games? Agh....a thread speculation about speculation. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Couldn't care less about PTR really. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3703 Posts
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
Though it would be hilarious if it was just a community manager trolling. | ||
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devilcry
Bulgaria53 Posts
On August 20 2011 21:35 ToastieNL wrote: Probably fixes to blueflame (hellion speed nerf), fungal (damage in5/6 secs) and a slight buff to something Protossi, faster TC maybe? id love these changes...especially the fungal nerf | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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oweia
Germany83 Posts
On August 20 2011 21:35 ToastieNL wrote: Probably fixes to blueflame (hellion speed nerf), fungal (damage in5/6 secs) and a slight buff to something Protossi, faster TC maybe? sry but what is TC? :/ | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5224 Posts
Possibly a buff to Immortals (and hopefully Hydras and Carriers, but I strongly doubt it)? Either way, good news for us. On August 20 2011 22:28 oweia wrote: sry but what is TC? :/ Twilight Council. | ||
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oweia
Germany83 Posts
omg, lol thx | ||
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Mercury-
Great Britain804 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote: What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?. If anything it's infestors but the Zerg lobby is too strong for that so it'll never happen. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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Hristiyan
99 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:24 101toss wrote: They should make fungal a slow, like idra said If that is made than certain strategies become unstappable. The second this happens i'm gonna share s double startport mass phoenixes opening after expand that borders to the unstoppable without the infestors holding the units together. Just gonna ruin the balance change the second that happens, especially if there is a PTR in europe. | ||
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Blitz Beat
United States178 Posts
i can see bunker nerfs coming. | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
Here is hoping they fix Infestors. And maybe a buff to Warp Prisms. | ||
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r3SpaVVn
Germany109 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:29 r3SpaVVn wrote: lol, guys. this is a thread about a rumored ptr for eu, not some patch. i don't get why everyone is talking about possible balance changes now? Are there any other reasons for a PTR other than balance changes? I don't see any. | ||
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Binabik
Germany686 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:29 r3SpaVVn wrote: lol, guys. this is a thread about a rumored ptr for eu, not some patch. i don't get why everyone is talking about possible balance changes now? what would you test in a ptr? new icons? :x | ||
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r3SpaVVn
Germany109 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:31 Elefanto wrote: Are there any other reasons for a PTR other than balance changes? I don't see any. Yeah, testing new ladder maps and Infernal Preignitor icons :D | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
PTR can test bugs, maps, editor functions... it's really not limited to balance | ||
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CountZero71
Germany89 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On August 20 2011 22:39 BronzeKnee wrote: I imagine that the 1-1-1 push, fungal growth and hellion are all being looked at it. Hellions seem to have taken over TvZ and TvT. I can only hope : /. I actually had no idea EU didn't have a PTR in previous patches, that's funny. | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:12 Giwoon wrote: what... wasnt there always a ptr for EU? lol, this is what i have always thought. Well good news then.. :p | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Goken
Sweden36 Posts
And more importantly, will Blizz read whats on the EU forums now? Nah, They are probably just trolling us. | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:21 Mercury- wrote: If anything it's infestors but the Zerg lobby is too strong for that so it'll never happen. Are you kidding me? I am sooo sick of hearing about how Zergs got buffs just because of complaining. Zerg got buffs because the game was imbalanced, not for any other reason. This idiotic argument about how the "zerg lobby" whined it's way into all kind of buffs needs to stop. Blizzard hands out buffs and nerfs based on game results, not the biased whining of the community. | ||
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Andreas
Norway214 Posts
On August 21 2011 20:54 GGTesomas wrote: Are you kidding me? I am sooo sick of hearing about how Zergs got buffs just because of complaining. Zerg got buffs because the game was imbalanced, not for any other reason. This idiotic argument about how the "zerg lobby" whined it's way into all kind of buffs needs to stop. Blizzard hands out buffs and nerfs based on game results, not the biased whining of the community. Remember the PTR that was up before the infestor buff? Fungal was changed to a projectile that didn't hit air but still did more damage (like it does now). I don't think that change lasted for more than a day or two because the community outrage was so strong, so they changed it to what it is now instead. I commend Blizzard for actually having a PTR, but they definitely don't spend too much time cheking the results of the changes they make. That being said, the players who actually play on the PTR are rarely the kind of people who actually should be testing the new changes (e.g. top-level players), and are more likely a small group of players spread out among different leagues, so I don't think they can get accurate results from the PTR anyway. | ||
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NormandyBoy
France200 Posts
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ICA
498 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:46 ICA wrote: I do not think there will be a patch coming out. Couldn't think of anything that Blizz would be willing to change. Sure everyone has his/ her own opinion about balance but the game is actually not that horrible right now. We also know that Blizzard takes their time with patches and changes only "terrible" stuff, which leads me to the conclusion that in the near future no patch will be coming out. According to the Race Win Percentage thread, and said graphs, the game currently sure as hell isn't balanced. Everything points towards a good nerf for Terran. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:51 Elefanto wrote: According to the Race Win Percentage thread, and said graphs, the game currently sure as hell isn't balanced. Everything points towards a good nerf for Terran. That's what I hope, too. ^^ | ||
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ICA
498 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:51 Elefanto wrote: According to the Race Win Percentage thread, and said graphs, the game currently sure as hell isn't balanced. Everything points towards a good nerf for Terran. Just because that's how it is since a month now doesn't mean anything. The games was pretty much balanced (again: everybody will always whine, I also would change some stuff). At least, at no point before it was better balanced. The game changes, new strats come up, players will adapt, it just needs some time. And I say it again, Blizzard usually thinks like that. They wait what happens before they perform major changes. If something like a patch will come out, it will only contain minor (mabye only bug or editor) fixes. | ||
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Andreas
Norway214 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:51 Elefanto wrote: According to the Race Win Percentage thread, and said graphs, the game currently sure as hell isn't balanced. Everything points towards a good nerf for Terran. Blizzard uses different numbers than the TLPD. Besides, even the recent big TLPD winrate imbalances started occuring more than one month *after* the last big patch (1.3.3) hit. | ||
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bole
Serbia164 Posts
whay bilizzard whont 1 unite to do plenty of jobs i dont get it.... look at game like this now infestors do great agenst almoust everything....air ground armored light... mariness also do great agenst almoust everything (only real conter to them is AOE spells and some t3 unites like colloss)..... on other hend stalkers (u need senturis alweys as toss in early game) zealots....(that is like one unite 3 unites combined in to one) i propose in next to expansions to more unites do job not like one ( insted of infestors killing air) i hope some hidralisc or something...in the mix... also insted of marines do bouth graund and air great job (nerf em in next expansions) to for exemple some unites like galioths do job in mix with other army.... so conclusion more unites to be efective not yust one for every situations...sry for my eng thx for reading | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Wasn't the Race Win Percentage thread pulled apart? I thought that the stats weren't as robust as first appeared? Or are you referring to another thread? OT - hell, it's about time. | ||
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freestalker
469 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:37 Andreas wrote: Remember the PTR that was up before the infestor buff? Fungal was changed to a projectile that didn't hit air but still did more damage (like it does now). I don't think that change lasted for more than a day or two because the community outrage was so strong, so they changed it to what it is now instead. I commend Blizzard for actually having a PTR, but they definitely don't spend too much time cheking the results of the changes they make. That being said, the players who actually play on the PTR are rarely the kind of people who actually should be testing the new changes (e.g. top-level players), and are more likely a small group of players spread out among different leagues, so I don't think they can get accurate results from the PTR anyway. I dare to say the outrage might be also caused by the fact that you use fungal to hinder unit movement. And blink stalkers could dodge the fungal when it was projectile. Also you want to stop harassing air units that you can't really catch with hydras (that also die quickly), like mutas, or medivacs. Zerg has so little anti-air as it is. I don't want to argue about any balance here, tho. On topic- I don't know if this PTR will be for patch or betatesting, but I kinda don't really expect another patch coming out before the HotS beta. Considering that servers used for testing of WoL possibly became stable release servers, then they might need some new realm for testing of other stuff. Or they just want more feedback also from EU, considering the metagame might be slightly different here. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
Hopefully this is HotS and not just another patch. I cant see them messing with balance too much until after the expac hits. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 21 2011 21:55 Andreas wrote: Blizzard uses different numbers than the TLPD. Besides, even the recent big TLPD winrate imbalances started occuring more than one month *after* the last big patch (1.3.3) hit. I didn't really care about the swings in balance, i cared about the overall scheme of things. And it was more than clear that terran was since start of the year in the 50-60 overall win % range and never low or even below 50%. Also Browder personally said in a recent interview that terrans are doing to well at the highest level (Korean GM) and that they are looking into it. So if there is a sign of PTR it can only be related to a balance change (map pool has been updated recently). And given the facts we know, they sure will test a Terran nerf and maybe they're gonna experiment with Infestor / Broodlords (as David Kim stated they are looking at it), maybe some Protoss buff. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/ru/forum/ On russian forums it's already availabled and marked "Read only" | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
On August 20 2011 21:49 mburke05 wrote: I dont know how people can just randomly say nerf blue flame helions because of their dramatic rise in popularity, the skill hasnt changed in large part for months, and people havent complained about it all. Meanwhile, fungal gets buffed dramatically, and zerg results dramatically increase, and people conveniently look away? Just because terrans are learning to use their assets (one that has been there for 8 months unchanged mind you) doesn't mean others who can't deal with them should be rewarded. Something is overpowered or it isn't, what you're saying has nothing to do with it and makes no sense. Love the potential EU PTR tho, about time =)) | ||
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The.Imperator
138 Posts
To me it seems obvious that if Blizzard think something is imbalanced they will fix it. | ||
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makk
United Kingdom132 Posts
On August 21 2011 22:35 Existor wrote: No PTR for EU, only read forum and post topics/comments http://eu.battle.net/sc2/ru/forum/ On russian forums it's already availabled and marked "Read only" I think they only allow you to post there once the ptr is live | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On August 21 2011 23:18 makk wrote: after changing the bunker build time every patch I think its time to start looking at the salvage time I think they only allow you to post there once the ptr is live No, it's same, as BlizzCon forum on Eu & RU sites, where marked with bolder font "Read only" | ||
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lcl
United Kingdom119 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:32 Binabik wrote: what would you test in a ptr? new icons? :x New maps | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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Like a Boss
502 Posts
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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On August 22 2011 01:26 Morphs wrote: Still waiting for hydras and corruptors te become more versatile... though I don't think anything will happen to those.. My guess is that only the infestor will get nerfed. Use corruption for more damage vs immortals, archons and colosus. Too radical changes will be ONLY in Hots. And I hope, they will make hydralisk with 1 food limit with current tier2 requirement. With infestor nerf there must be some other buffs. Fungal now is a main answer of zergs to many OP-things from other races. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On August 21 2011 22:35 Existor wrote: No PTR for EU, only read forum and post topics/comments http://eu.battle.net/sc2/ru/forum/ On russian forums it's already availabled and marked "Read only" Same thing appeared in the Italian boards. Bunch o' people asked about it and their threads were promptly locked, with a blue saying things like "we don't have anything to share about that yet". | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uLet7.png) http://eu.battle.net/sc2/ru/blog/2852795#c-2592169825 Translating: ZETA: Will be PTR on Europe and when? Djimkaara: It will be. Soon. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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